Trees Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 No. They're polar opposites. I'd put Puk and Matej in the style category while Greg is in the dull, clinical, efficient mode.Me too, Hancock is the master of setting up his bike for conditions, of gating and line riding which doesn't mean excitement unfortunately, more frustration for the fans :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 Think you're rather missing the point. British GP, wild card from Russia? Surely a British GP should have a British wild card? Just like all the other GP's have a home wild card. Regarding Harris, you obviously think that the result of next season's British Final is fixed then, with Harris a shoe in for the best non GP British rider slot that usually means a wild card place at Cardiff. These conspiracy theories about Harris are pathetic. Yawn. They will just change it like they did last year to make sure he gets in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 They will just change it like they did last year to make sure he gets in. NO one changed anything last year ... stick to the facts. Chris Harris was extremely fortunate the way things panned out, getting into the GP Challenge and then other riders dropping out, but nothing was altered to allow him passage to the SGP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 NO one changed anything last year ... stick to the facts. Chris Harris was extremely fortunate the way things panned out, getting into the GP Challenge and then other riders dropping out, but nothing was altered to allow him passage to the SGP. I think the comments are more based on the fact of Harris getting the Cardiff wildcard last year, then because he qualified for the GP's this year it went back to the British Final again. He does, for some strange reason seem to be a favourite with the BSI. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 NO one changed anything last year ... stick to the facts. Chris Harris was extremely fortunate the way things panned out, getting into the GP Challenge and then other riders dropping out, but nothing was altered to allow him passage to the SGP. So the qualification for the wildcard last year wasnt changed then?? It wasnt changed from it being the highest non GP rided at the British final to just handing it to Harris?? Must of been my imagination. Looks like im not the one who needs to get my facts straight bit embarrassing from the BSI mouthpiece really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the Mic Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 They will just change it like they did last year to make sure he gets in. Like I said, yawn. Do you practice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 (edited) Dave the Mic Did you not read my first post on this point "If I could I would give him the 2015 Cardiff wild card (cause I am going but I know it can't happen)" then after you commenting I made it clearer still - did you not read "If I could I would give him the 2015 Cardiff wild card (cause I am going but I know it can't happen)" notice I highlighted in bold that "IF I COULD" I would give Emil the wild card "BUT I KNOW IT CANT HAPPEN" and others have already commented that Chris harris was GIVEN the wild card in 2013 irrespective of the British Championship - whats to stop it happening again? Back to Emill - good meeting tonight and Emils bike really was going well. Edited August 9, 2014 by OveFundinFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 SIGNS of vintage Emil in the SEC yesterday ... great to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severnsider Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Also looking very good for Torun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Also looking very good for Torun Probably earned about £20 k Today-handy if you are skint !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Probably earned about £20 k Today-handy if you are skint !! ... and actually paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 ... and actually paid. HOPE so ... new regime at Torun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 So the qualification for the wildcard last year wasnt changed then?? It wasnt changed from it being the highest non GP rided at the British final to just handing it to Harris?? Must of been my imagination. Looks like im not the one who needs to get my facts straight bit embarrassing from the BSI mouthpiece really. It was a mistake to nominante Bomber pre BF last year, but the fact is he was the stand out candidate as a British rider for a wild card with Tai already in the series. Now, I'll make this clear I'm not a huge Harris fan, I don't particularly care if he's in the GP's or nor BUT the fact remains he is still the best British rider behind Tai. Scotty is still good on his day and was unlucky in 2013, however after his last few seasons in the GP's & him Shunning the SWC BSI were never going to do him any favors. I also think you should be a little more respectful to Phil Rising. The guy's on here giving us an insight - whether or not you agree with his views, shares his info, no need to be an arse just because he says something you dont agree with. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 It was a mistake to nominante Bomber pre BF last year, but the fact is he was the stand out candidate as a British rider for a wild card with Tai already in the series. Now, I'll make this clear I'm not a huge Harris fan, I don't particularly care if he's in the GP's or nor BUT the fact remains he is still the best British rider behind Tai. Scotty is still good on his day and was unlucky in 2013, however after his last few seasons in the GP's & him Shunning the SWC BSI were never going to do him any favors. I also think you should be a little more respectful to Phil Rising. The guy's on here giving us an insight - whether or not you agree with his views, shares his info, no need to be an arse just because he says something you dont agree with. No, he wasn't. He may not be everyone's cup of tea but Scott Nicholls is far better suited to racing in the GP's than Bomber ever has been because the bloke can make a start. I'm not saying he is a GP standard rider btw but he would do better than Harris IMO, especially around temporary tracks like Cardiff. Back on topic, Emil is one of the top 4/5 in the world, regardless of the GP standings and he is missed from the GP series, he will be even more so when Hancock and Pedersen call it a day. Imagine a GP series with Emil, Tai, Ward and Holder slugging it out at the top end. That is what Speedway fans want to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepturningleft Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 Don't know why Greg Hancock gets so much stick on this forum because when a GH race is coming up, this is the ideal time to put the kettle on secure in the knowledge that you won't be missing any excitement. You can return to your front room just in time to hear Kelv and Nige exclaiming, 'What can you say about this man!!' as Greg does his lap of honour having gated and won the race by the country mile for about the 765th yawn inducing time. Yes, he is a master craftsman - but only at gating. A couple of weeks ago (in the world cup?), Greg overtook a rider to win a race. I can honestly say this the first time I can recall, out the hundreds of races I must have seen with Greg, that I have witnessed this very rare event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 It was a mistake to nominante Bomber pre BF last year, but the fact is he was the stand out candidate as a British rider for a wild card with Tai already in the series. Now, I'll make this clear I'm not a huge Harris fan, I don't particularly care if he's in the GP's or nor BUT the fact remains he is still the best British rider behind Tai. Scotty is still good on his day and was unlucky in 2013, however after his last few seasons in the GP's & him Shunning the SWC BSI were never going to do him any favors. I also think you should be a little more respectful to Phil Rising. The guy's on here giving us an insight - whether or not you agree with his views, shares his info, no need to be an arse just because he says something you dont agree with. When someone tells me i should get my facts straight in a condescending manner then i will defend myself particularly when that person has there facts wrong no matter who they are. Nothing to do with him having a different opinion because OveFundin and i weren't discussing opinions such as is Harris the 2nd best British rider (i don't think he is by the way) but the fact that the criteria was changed so Harris got a wildcard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 When someone tells me i should get my facts straight in a condescending manner then i will defend myself particularly when that person has there facts wrong no matter who they are. Nothing to do with him having a different opinion because OveFundin and i weren't discussing opinions such as is Harris the 2nd best British rider (i don't think he is by the way) but the fact that the criteria was changed so Harris got a wildcard BUT it wasn't ... and that's a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 BUT it wasn't ... and that's a fact. Harris was given a wildcard. That is a fact. Everyone saw him there. http://speedwaygp.com/news/article/2440/bombers-comeback-in-cardiff - So why does the GP site say Harris was given the wildcard? http://speedwaygp.com/results/56 - So who finished 10th according to the speedway GP site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) THE claim was that the rules or criteria were changed specifically so that BSI could give Harris the wild card pick. That was not the case. BSI originally agreed that the winner of the British Final (or the highest placed rider should the winner already be in the series) should receive the British GP wild card slot as a 'favour' to the BSPA and SKY in order to boost the appeal and importance of the British Final which was being televised. For various reasons that arrangement was withdrawn in 2013, with SKY no longer broadcasting the SGP, and the BSPA were duly informed several months before the event. This year BSI again agreed to allow the Cardiff wild card pick to be determined by placings in the BF, probably in part because of renewed co-operation with Sky who might otherwise not have shown the meeting, and the BSPA. The theory that BSI are so desperate to have Chris Harris in the SGP that they will make up the rules to ensure his passage into the competition is utterly ridiculous. RPNYC is, in my opinion, quite right that in 2013 Harris was the best British rider behind Tai Woffinden and with Scott Nicholls effectively ruling himself out by doing neither the qualifying rounds or competing in the SWC (which Harris does on both counts). Edited August 12, 2014 by PHILIPRISING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 HOPE so ... new regime at Torun Has the change of ownership at Torun already taken place or is it an 'end of season' thing? If I understood the translation of the story correctly, it would seem the new owners want to introduce a new lower pay scale for its riders - which may not go down too well with the likes of Emil!!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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