Glasgow Tigers V Scunthorpe Scorpions Pl Mon 4th August 2014 @7-15pm

[lucifer sam]

Blimey, is this what normally happens with the Glasgow threads – that they’re overrun by slightly gloating and mocking Monarchs fans? And there was me thinking the meeting was between Glasgow and Scunthorpe.

 

All the best

Rob

[Gazc]

Blimey, is this what normally happens with the Glasgow threads – that they’re overrun by slightly gloating and mocking Monarchs fans? And there was me thinking the meeting was between Glasgow and Scunthorpe.

 

All the best

Rob

Yep got it in one Rob.

[MD]

 

Your previous Scandinavian (aka Anders Thomsen) did not make an impressive start either, and he did not begin in the number one slot.

 

Your promotion persevered and their patience is now paying off.

 

Robert Eriksson rated Palovaara as a promising prospect in 2011, so perhaps the Tigeratti should give the lad some slack instead of online hostility.

Anders has performed on 3 occasions at home this season which is hardly reaping the rewards. The spotlight is on the middle order due to the lack of a top end and Anders is frustratingly inconsistent.

 

There is no hostility directed at Palovaara himself but the situation. Since we won the league in 2011 times have been difficult. We have gone down the assessed rider route with mainly Australians and Danes with very limited success. Bellego should have been one of the successes. We, the paying fans have watched tortuously as one after another weren't up to PL standard but we persevered with them regardless. Now having signed what looks like another 'perseverance' signing, the fans are venting.

 

We know there is a lack of funds but also feel on occasions we deserve better, this being one of them. A decent No1 could have transformed our season coupled with the return of Berge at reserve. As it is Palovaara looks like a 3.00 rider with 1 point from 8 rides which if it transpires would give us a team CMA around the 36 point mark. We have every right to vent as is our perseverance being tested.

[cheggie]

Anders has performed on 3 occasions at home this season which is hardly reaping the rewards. The spotlight is on the middle order due to the lack of a top end and Anders is frustratingly inconsistent.

 

There is no hostility directed at Palovaara himself but the situation. Since we won the league in 2011 times have been difficult. We have gone down the assessed rider route with mainly Australians and Danes with very limited success. Bellego should have been one of the successes. We, the paying fans have watched tortuously as one after another weren't up to PL standard but we persevered with them regardless. Now having signed what looks like another 'perseverance' signing, the fans are venting.

 

We know there is a lack of funds but also feel on occasions we deserve better, this being one of them. A decent No1 could have transformed our season coupled with the return of Berge at reserve. As it is Palovaara looks like a 3.00 rider with 1 point from 8 rides which if it transpires would give us a team CMA around the 36 point mark. We have every right to vent as is our perseverance being tested.

I did wonder a couple of weeks back that if did we make a change - could we not have tried to get both Anders and Dimitri to reserve, instead of brining in Victor at number one?! As it appears well known that trying to get in a decent quality number one in the middle of the season is mission impossible. This would have made us very strong at reserve, and enabled plenty of cover the other 5 riders if they were having an off day during a meeting?!

Instead of a 'perseverance' signing as you called - even someone like Richard Hall in the middle order would have done. Tried and tested at PL, British and maybe slightly less expensive than a foreign import. Just my opinion.

 

[george.m]

No offence to Viktor.

As we didn't go down the road of finding a new No1 would Tom Perry have been an option?

Not sure if he was/is available.

 

Keen to ride for us, knew what he'd be letting himself in for.

 

I'm assuming it would be cheaper also to pay his diesel travel costs than flights. Though you never know nowadays.

[Gazc]

No offence to Viktor.

As we didn't go down the road of finding a new No1 would Tom Perry have been an option?

Not sure if he was/is available.

 

Keen to ride for us, knew what he'd be letting himself in for.

 

I'm assuming it would be cheaper also to pay his diesel travel costs than flights. Though you never know nowadays.

Maybe George but it was a No 1 we were signing oh hold on we still haven't signed one thought we had there for a minute well in that case he would have been a good shout as he seems keen on riding for us.

[montie]

Your concern is touching , and of course logic dictates i am premature in my assessment . However the problem is that we've seen this all too many times before at Glasgow . And one point in eight rides means we could be heading into Michael Penfold country with this one . Obviously i hope i'm forced to eat humble pie and the lad turns out to be a solid performer , experience watching our Scandanavian acquisitions suggests otherwise though .

 

some of the lads i work with in Sweden really do speak very highly of him,give him a bit of time and he will be ok

 

Ryan Douglas couldnt buy a point start of last year and is now near the 7 average mark

[Lioness]

people are expecting far too much of a young lad taking his first steps in British speedway and yes I know its Glasgow Speedways fault - but its not Viktors

 

Anders Thomsen has been mentioned on here and in reality Viktor is in the same boat as Anders from the newbie point of view. When Anders came over he was on assessed 7 but in the main body and all we looked for him to do was get experience and be up to speed for reserve for this season. Realistically, that is all we can expect of Viktor and next season is when we should judge. Its not his fault we have been shown to be incompetent with team building.

 

He is on borrowed machinery at the moment as it proved physically impossible to get his own over in time for the meetings - Daniel Nermarks equipment I was told from a reliable source - and certainly was on the pace at Ashfield. Can we not just split the 'no 1' discussion and the 'Viktor Palovaara' discussion in two and give him the chance with what he REALLY is - this years attempt to get another Anders

 

Lets give the lad a chance for who HE is and not for the failures that went before him at Ashfield

Just my tuppence worths

[george.m]

people are expecting far too much of a young lad taking his first steps in British speedway and yes I know its Glasgow Speedways fault - but its not Viktors

 

Anders Thomsen has been mentioned on here and in reality Viktor is in the same boat as Anders from the newbie point of view. When Anders came over he was on assessed 7 but in the main body and all we looked for him to do was get experience and be up to speed for reserve for this season. Realistically, that is all we can expect of Viktor and next season is when we should judge. Its not his fault we have been shown to be incompetent with team building.

 

He is on borrowed machinery at the moment as it proved physically impossible to get his own over in time for the meetings - Daniel Nermarks equipment I was told from a reliable source - and certainly was on the pace at Ashfield. Can we not just split the 'no 1' discussion and the 'Viktor Palovaara' discussion in two and give him the chance with what he REALLY is - this years attempt to get another Anders

 

Lets give the lad a chance for who HE is and not for the failures that went before him at Ashfield

Just my tuppence worths

I agree entirely Lioness. Perhaps I've been coming across wrong. I've actually resisted posting as often as I would have liked as I didn't want to give the impression I had anything against the lad, who in all honesty I know zilch about. Edited August 7, 2014 by george.m

[Paulco]

people are expecting far too much of a young lad taking his first steps in British speedway and yes I know its Glasgow Speedways fault - but its not Viktors

 

Anders Thomsen has been mentioned on here and in reality Viktor is in the same boat as Anders from the newbie point of view. When Anders came over he was on assessed 7 but in the main body and all we looked for him to do was get experience and be up to speed for reserve for this season. Realistically, that is all we can expect of Viktor and next season is when we should judge. Its not his fault we have been shown to be incompetent with team building.

 

He is on borrowed machinery at the moment as it proved physically impossible to get his own over in time for the meetings - Daniel Nermarks equipment I was told from a reliable source - and certainly was on the pace at Ashfield. Can we not just split the 'no 1' discussion and the 'Viktor Palovaara' discussion in two and give him the chance with what he REALLY is - this years attempt to get another Anders

 

Lets give the lad a chance for who HE is and not for the failures that went before him at Ashfield

 

Just my tuppence worths

I cant argue with any of that , but i'm just sick to death of us signing an unknown after unknown and many of them aren't anywhere near PL standard . I hope Viktor is , but the early signs aren't good . At a time when the KO Cup is really the last chance to salvage something from the season , we go and weaken the side shortly before the Quarter Final tie .

[coalman]

Who would be a tiger rider with some fans putting the boot in without giving the lad a chance. Now I know why I don't come on this site very often

Edited August 8, 2014 by coalman

[Paulco]

Who would be a tiger rider with some fans putting the boot in without giving the lad a chance

We're not putting the boot in , we're voicing our concerns at our promotion's signing policy . There is a difference . Have you seen anything in Viktor's opening 8 rides which suggests he might be a bargain on a 7 point average ? Instead of having a go at our long suffering fans , tell us why you think the promotion have made a wise move the week before a KO Cup quarter final .

[coalman]

Moan moan that's all it seems to be on here go tell the promotion how you feel

[Paulco]

Moan moan that's all it seems to be on here go tell the promotion how you feel

i do , and you're the one that's doing most of the moaning . Those awful Tigers fans that should just accept everything they're given without a word

[george.m]

Moan moan that's all it seems to be on here go tell the promotion how you feel

Moan, moan!

This is nothing.

You haven't seen just how we can really moan yet!

 

By past standards I would say we're all being pretty subdued on this matter and maybe others are like me and holding back because we know from past experience the way others with an agenda deliberately try to stir things up by mis-quoting what is really being said.

 

We also have every right to moan!

Three years ago the promotion brought out the begging bowl and the fans coughed up.

It came out again recently for the fence fund .... again we coughed up.

Oh, and on top of that we pay our money at the gate each week.

And on top of that travelling expenses, food, programme, etc.

 

All we ask for, 7 riders who try and maybe, just maybe, a bit of entertainment for 15 minutes each Sunday.

We've not had a lot of that for the last 2 seasons.

 

At least some of us are still here moaning.

Others have walked away!

[Gazc]

Moan moan that's all it seems to be on here go tell the promotion how you feel

What you own about in-fact why feel the need to comment at all just stay off the thread and problem solved for you , and then we don't need to put up with you moaning about us moaning simple solution.