screm Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Yeah, Bears' chances look pretty slim as we're carrying at least 1 passenger in all meetings. As someone said earlier, it looks like any chance we had of success was lost when Kozza's visa didn't get sorted. Redcar's chances of reaching the Play-Offs were over long before they ever signed Smith. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 (edited) Well Panthers beat Edinburgh comfortably enough. And I seem to remember Dryml top scoring. Edited August 4, 2014 by TheScotsman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Still don't understand the logic of play offs, at the end of the season the team with the most points is the winner. If it is used to stretch the season out, then the league structure is set up wrong, change it to we meet each other twice home & away. Agree with this, the best team is surely the team with the most points when all the PL fixtures have been raced, surely they are the true Champions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Agree with this, the best team is surely the team with the most points when all the PL fixtures have been raced, surely they are the true Champions. Not if the play-off criteria is agreed by everyone from the off . The League competition is actually only a qualifying competition . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Not if the play-off criteria is agreed by everyone from the off . The League competition is actually only a qualifying competition . Absolutely, all the teams know the rules before the off, but I still cant get my head around how it is right that a team that finishes sixth can be crowned Champions, of course it happens in other sports and seems to be the modern way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bri1966 Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Workington could struggle to get fixtures raced before playoffs start meaning a total shambles like the year Scunny won it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 (edited) Not if the play-off criteria is agreed by everyone from the off . The League competition is actually only a qualifying competition . If you didn't have Play Offs - you wouldn't have all this stupid carry on with cut off dates etc. It means some Teams can Race 'X' number of Meetings, and others 'Y' number of Meetings only to lose out on the Play Offs because of the WEATHER. If there was a System where the leading Team in the League actually WON the League (as they should) most Teams would have ridden all their Meetings - there may be the odd Team that doesn't complete their Fixtures but no System is perfect. The Team that finishes TOP of the League is a damned sight fairer and more perfect than the comedy show we are treated to these days. WHAT A WAY TO DECIDE A LEAGUE!!! Edit: If your final statement is taken at face value - it is also a complete waste of time. WHAT is the point of having a League Championship in the first place? Edited August 4, 2014 by The White Knight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WTF1 Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 If the play offs are to remain wouldn't the sensible idea be that the top team in the league be seeded straight to the play off final and the next four in 2 semi finals/final to determine their opponents, it would then be a reason to try and top the league and a greater and fairer chance of winning it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 If the play offs are to remain wouldn't the sensible idea be that the top team in the league be seeded straight to the play off final and the next four in 2 semi finals/final to determine their opponents, it would then be a reason to try and top the league and a greater and fairer chance of winning it, I'm sorry - I don't agree. A few years ago Coventry won the League so called 'Play Offs' despite finishing the League programme TWENTY SIX Points behind the actual Team that finished TOP over the Season. You explain to me how that can be justified - because I, as a Supporter just CANNOT see it. All this "they knew the Rules at the start of the Season" is just so much flannel, it also may be true - but crucially - it doesn't make it RIGHT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WTF1 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 I'm sorry - I don't agree. A few years ago Coventry won the League so called 'Play Offs' despite finishing the League programme TWENTY SIX Points behind the actual Team that finished TOP over the Season. You explain to me how that can be justified - because I, as a Supporter just CANNOT see it. All this "they knew the Rules at the start of the Season" is just so much flannel, it also may be true - but crucially - it doesn't make it RIGHT!!! Yes i agree that this situation is ridiculous but the powers that be seem to want it and i was just giving an example of at least giving the team that topped the league half a chance to win it rather than go out in the stupid group sections, iv'e followed speedway since 1960 and this decision along with the replacement of the 6 points behind tactical ride for the ridiculous black and white helmet is one of the worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 (edited) If the play offs are to remain wouldn't the sensible idea be that the top team in the league be seeded straight to the play off final and the next four in 2 semi finals/final to determine their opponents, it would then be a reason to try and top the league and a greater and fairer chance of winning it, The whole point of Play-offs is extra income. If you seed the top team straight through to a final and have the next four teams in semis and a final the winners of those semis would get extra income from two home matches more than the team finishing top. Edited August 5, 2014 by Steve Park 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 (edited) The whole point of Play-offs is extra income. If you seed the top team straight through to a final and have the next four teams in semis and a final the winners of those semis would get extra income from two home matches more than the team finishing top. Absolutely correct. All the North American sports (the biggest, most-financially-viable leagues in the world) have play-offs, and teams there have long admitted their income is doubled in the post-season. Even soccer has play-offs in the Scottish and English leagues now. The old idea of a straightforward winner went out the window years ago. A couple of years back there were no PL play-offs, Glasgow had the title won by early August and their crowds dropped (perhaps creating their well-publicised financial worries of that winter) for the remaining, by-then-meaningless matches. Edited August 5, 2014 by crescent girl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarchlad Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Should the League winners not be the best team over all the matches, and the play offs are for say the league Cup?.........always seems to be the logical way of most leagues, allthough play offs should be for promotion and religation.........instead of a cup. But we at the Dale cant complain, as I think we were involved in this stupid decision of having play offs, but I'm sure someone will correct me on this, if I'm wrong!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Should the League winners not be the best team over all the matches, and the play offs are for say the league Cup?.........always seems to be the logical way of most leagues, allthough play offs should be for promotion and religation.........instead of a cup. But we at the Dale cant complain, as I think we were involved in this stupid decision of having play offs, but I'm sure someone will correct me on this, if I'm wrong!!! The whole league(s) would have voted on it and the majority voted in favour of bringing them in, I would have thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Even soccer has play-offs in the Scottish and English leagues now. The old idea of a straightforward winner went out the window years ago. No it doesn't. They have play-offs for promotion but the team top of the league wins the league and gains "automatic" promotion. In England anyway, Scotland may be a little different. Play-offs are still good though IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 The whole point of Play-offs is extra income. If you seed the top team straight through to a final and have the next four teams in semis and a final the winners of those semis would get extra income from two home matches more than the team finishing top. but would the team that finished top rather have one hand on the trophy,,, rather than risk going out in the pre-lims,,, I'm all for the top team winning the league, but if there has to be play-offs, surely the top team should be seeded straight to the final,,, IMOO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Absolutely correct. All the North American sports (the biggest, most-financially-viable leagues in the world) have play-offs, and teams there have long admitted their income is doubled in the post-season.Even soccer has play-offs in the Scottish and English leagues now. The old idea of a straightforward winner went out the window years ago.A couple of years back there were no PL play-offs, Glasgow had the title won by early August and their crowds dropped (perhaps creating their well-publicised financial worries of that winter) for the remaining, by-then-meaningless matches.I think you will find in soccer in Scotland and England the Play-offs are to determine promotion and relegation the Champions in the Leagues are the Teams with the most points at the end off the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 I think you will find in soccer in Scotland and England the Play-offs are to determine promotion and relegation the Champions in the Leagues are the Teams with the most points at the end off the season The SPL in Scotland is split into two halves towards the end of the season, but it is still the team with the most points who win the League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 The SPL in Scotland is split into two halves towards the end of the season, but it is still the team with the most points who win the League.That's correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Absolutely correct. All the North American sports (the biggest, most-financially-viable leagues in the world) have play-offs, and teams there have long admitted their income is doubled in the post-season. Even soccer has play-offs in the Scottish and English leagues now. The old idea of a straightforward winner went out the window years ago. A couple of years back there were no PL play-offs, Glasgow had the title won by early August and their crowds dropped (perhaps creating their well-publicised financial worries of that winter) for the remaining, by-then-meaningless matches. Yer its not just the winning team who see there crowds drop, without the playoffs there would a lot more meaningless matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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