Fenway Bleachers Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 I like the old plus/minus points calculation for judging where teams are relative to one another. with that in mind top 4 are in Scunny at +7 will make it then it gets complicated. worky at 0 are ahead of pete who are -3, assuming all fixtures get sorted, and raced then the Comets are slight favs, but if they drop any against the rebels and choose not to race Edinburgh then Pete will be in depending away results However this year some fixtures will be lost before the cut off thus it`s possible we may get champions who did make the top 6 at cut off but who would not have if all fixtures completed. Only in speedway Huh???!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Why they decided that you should race some Teams twice has messed it up IMO it gives false sense to the positions if all teams don't complete fixtures.still that was the rule at the beginning of the season.Only in Speedway once again!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 It really is time to bin the League Cup , takes up valuable race days at the start of the season and now we have the ridiculous situation of clubs racing weekly double headers . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 We really have been lucky in sunny Suffolk - all fixtures comfortably completed including having been part of the larger LC group and in KOCup semi. Also had blank dates in June and in August with no meeting!! Do agree that the extra fixtures are silly and should be dropped as much because it just doesnt make sense to have an uneven fixture list as the potential for congestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 It really is time to bin the League Cup , takes up valuable race days at the start of the season and now we have the ridiculous situation of clubs racing weekly double headers . Too right and with potentially Eastbourne and Birmingham joining the PL it should be league racing from day 1 of the new season. There is also Cradley who could move up though I don't keep up with NL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 It's a farce, if the rains come newcastle could qualify having rode or completed more matches, then again our extra matches have been against 2 of the top 3 in Edinburgh and Berwick.... Don't see the logic in picking 2 teams to race against again, but this is speedway lol. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 It's a farce, if the rains come newcastle could qualify having rode or completed more matches, then again our extra matches have been against 2 of the top 3 in Edinburgh and Berwick.... Don't see the logic in picking 2 teams to race against again, but this is speedway lol. I think it was before Peterborough dropped down that they decided on these extra fixtures. I have no idea why, once Peterborough dropped down, they kept them though. A bit baffling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner47 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) If they cant get the LC done and dusted by the end of May, then scrub it. Same happens every year, all the big meetings come and the end of October when only the diehards are prepared to brave the weather. Ipswich had their smallest crowd of the season for a final V Newcastle on a awful Saturday night. In other sports if you invest in a decent team you get rewarded for your success, in Speedway you get penalised and lose money because extra fans wont turn out in the cold and wet. And while I'm having a whinge, the K.O. cup should also be concluded by the end of August, then teams that have done well to reach the final, might actually get rewarded with a decent crowd. Edited September 4, 2014 by spanner47 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 If they cant get the LC done and dusted by the end of May, then scrub it. Same happens every year, all the big meetings come and the end of October when only the diehards are prepared to brave the weather. Ipswich had their smallest crowd of the season for a final V Newcastle on a awful Saturday night. In other sports if you invest in a decent team you get rewarded for your success, in Speedway you get penalised and lose money because extra fans wont turn out in the cold and wet. And while I'm having a whinge, the K.O. cup should also be concluded by the end of August, then teams that have done well to reach the final, might actually get rewarded with a decent crowd. It is one of life's mysteries why a sport so weather dependant , ends up having it's biggest encounters when the weather is deteriorating towards winter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMYAMBANDIT Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 It is one of life's mysteries why a sport so weather dependant , ends up having it's biggest encounters when the weather is deteriorating towards winter One certainty Paul, if it's raining I will find you in the nearest bar :drink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 It's a farce, if the rains come newcastle could qualify having rode or completed more matches, then again our extra matches have been against 2 of the top 3 in Edinburgh and Berwick.... Don't see the logic in picking 2 teams to race against again, but this is speedway lol. Also counts for the Comets, we start tonight on a run of 9 matches in 10 days, weather permitting, we too could qualify for the play offs but having completed nowhere near our full complement of league fixtures? Even if all 9 do get run we would still be short of a full programme and effectively racing for the title in said competition, we would then be in the position of trying to finish our programme after the title has already been decided, did someone mention meaningless matches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Also counts for the Comets, we start tonight on a run of 9 matches in 10 days, weather permitting, we too could qualify for the play offs but having completed nowhere near our full complement of league fixtures? Even if all 9 do get run we would still be short of a full programme and effectively racing for the title in said competition, we would then be in the position of trying to finish our programme after the title has already been decided, did someone mention meaningless matches? and you could win the league, without fulfilling all fixtures and probly have the title taken away for not doing so :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 and you could win the league, without fulfilling all fixtures and probly have the title taken away for not doing so :-) You could probably get into the play-offs, and finish all your PL matches by the cut off date, then go on to win the PL title, only then to be over taking by a team trying to finish their PL fixtures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 While no one can predict a British Summer regarding the weather ,it was a serious error of judgement from the BSPA to allowed these extra fixtures against teams of your choice ,it makes a mockery of a league system IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Also counts for the Comets, we start tonight on a run of 9 matches in 10 days, weather permitting, we too could qualify for the play offs but having completed nowhere near our full complement of league fixtures? Even if all 9 do get run we would still be short of a full programme and effectively racing for the title in said competition, we would then be in the position of trying to finish our programme after the title has already been decided, did someone mention meaningless matches? or get a bye to the final in the group stages of the play offs like scunny did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scunny1 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 History books will still say " Scunthorpe Scorpions 2012 Premier League Champions", whatever you bad losers say! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Speedway Promoters needs to organise it's Fixtures much better than it does. It should ensure the League Meetings are prioritised during the Summer (provide we get one) - not the Autumn. The 'pick your own opponents' Rule should be scrapped - it only extends the League Season even further thus making it inevitable that there will be congestion at the end of the Season - as do the 'Play Offs'. It isn't rocket science to realise that having these Meetings at the end of the Season is going to mean you will have smaller Crowds - folk don't like standing around in the cold and often wet for two sometime two and a half hours to watch fifteen minutes of Racing.. Those who run Speedway should realise it is a SUMMER Sport when they bring in all of these unnecessary extra Fixtures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Those who run Speedway should realise it is a SUMMER Sport when they bring in all of these unnecessary extra Fixtures. I think you'll find it was during the SUMMER that most of the RAIN caused all the POSTPONEMENTS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 History books will still say " Scunthorpe Scorpions 2012 Premier League Champions", whatever you bad losers say! is that not the year Newcastle won, but then were robbed by some stupid system ??? :-) what is the cut off date ???,,, am gonna do the rain dance, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Those who run Speedway should realise it is a SUMMER Sport when they bring in all of these unnecessary extra Fixtures. But it was August that was the complete washout All the best Rob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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