Super Blue Posted August 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Ive just been reading the rules for the playoffs , interesting that it's the top 6 teams after 28 meetings to contest them but the top 2 after initial 24 meetings that get to pick the other teams in their groups . By my reckoning teams might have ridden 24 but not necessarily the right 24 because of cancellations so how is that going to work when it comes to deciding the top 2 ? It seems like a statistical/logistical nightmare having PL2 fixtures completed before first one's have been run ! So as we approach the business end of the season the plot thickens on who will be in the top 6 and who will have the picks and do they deserve to ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Ive just been reading the rules for the playoffs , interesting that it's the top 6 teams after 28 meetings to contest them but the top 2 after initial 24 meetings that get to pick the other teams in their groups . By my reckoning teams might have ridden 24 but not necessarily the right 24 because of cancellations so how is that going to work when it comes to deciding the top 2 ? It seems like a statistical/logistical nightmare having PL2 fixtures completed before first one's have been run ! So as we approach the business end of the season the plot thickens on who will be in the top 6 and who will have the picks and do they deserve to ? I think you'll find it's just that the '24' hasn't been updated from last year to this year's 28. It'll be the top 2/6 at the cut off date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Blue Posted August 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 I think you'll find it's just that the '24' hasn't been updated from last year to this year's 28. It'll be the top 2/6 at the cut off date. If that's the case then it makes sense , the BSPA up to its usual standard of administration then ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyassinian bandit Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Still don't understand the logic of play offs, at the end of the season the team with the most points is the winner. If it is used to stretch the season out, then the league structure is set up wrong, change it to we meet each other twice home & away.is it following in the steps of the EL which is in place to keep sky happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 is it following in the steps of the EL which is in place to keep sky happy YES!!! :mad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bri1966 Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 not us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 Monarchs Rebels Bandits and Witches now all in IMO. Last 2 spaces still between the next 4-5 and could go anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 (edited) is it following in the steps of the EL which is in place to keep sky happy Why do you think Sky want it? Probably because people watch it. If people are watching it then it must be what the people want. Fancy that, speedway giving the people what they want Play-offs and the 3-2-1-0-1-2-3-4 point scoring system are the two best thing to have happened to the sport in the last 10-15 years in this country. Admittedly there not a lot of competition for them "good ideas" Edited August 22, 2014 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 Why do you think Sky want it? Probably because people watch it. If people are watching it then it must be what the people want. Fancy that, speedway giving the people what they want Play-offs and the 3-2-1-0-1-2-3-4 point scoring system are the two best thing to have happened to the sport in the last 10-15 years in this country. Admittedly there not a lot of competition for them "good ideas" Cant argue with any of that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 Why do you think Sky want it? Probably because people watch it. If people are watching it then it must be what the people want. Fancy that, speedway giving the people what they want Play-offs and the 3-2-1-0-1-2-3-4 point scoring system are the two best thing to have happened to the sport in the last 10-15 years in this country. Admittedly there not a lot of competition for them "good ideas" In YOUR opinion. Cant argue with any of that Yes you can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Blue Posted August 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 After some of the results of late I think the current top 4 are going to safely be in the playoff zone , that's Somerset , Edinburgh , Ipswich and Berwick with Scunthorpe also in a very strong position . Due to varying issues like injuries , rain offs , lack of racing and recent results its now going to be a monumental struggle for the likes of Peterborough and Workington now to get into the top 6 so I'm beginning to think its flip a coin for the final place . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Play-offs and the 3-2-1-0-1-2-3-4 point scoring system are the two best thing to have happened to the sport in the last 10-15 years in this country. Admittedly there not a lot of competition for them "good ideas" Absolutely. I think everyone would agree with that. Everyone except those still living in 1962 that is. All the best Rob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Play-offs and the 3-2-1-0-1-2-3-4 point scoring system are the two best thing to have happened to the sport in the last 10-15 years in this country. Admittedly there not a lot of competition for them "good ideas" Agreed. Plus the rolling averages, which dramatically-lessen the opportunity for corruption. Three really good things, all of which have helped speedway in the past two or three difficult years. Maybe the BSPA aren't so head-in-the-sand as some would believe? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Plus the rolling averages, which dramatically-lessen the opportunity for corruption. The current rolling averages are rubbish. What a rider was doing last August has no bearing on a rider's current form. Rolling averages should only take into account 16 matches (last 8 home, last 8 away). That would give some actual indication how a rider is performing. All the best Rob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 The current rolling averages are rubbish. What a rider was doing last August has no bearing on a rider's current form. Rolling averages should only take into account 16 matches (last 8 home, last 8 away). That would give some actual indication how a rider is performing. All the best Rob The fewer meetings you take to calculate a CMA the more open it is to abuse and manipulation, maybe the length of time could be a little shorter, but I like this system. Surely it gives a more accurate account of how a rider is doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Absolutely. I think everyone would agree with that. Everyone except those still living in 1962 that is. All the best Rob 1962 is actually a very good year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 The top four looked stitched on four the play-offs, after that there are six clubs chasing two places, even as far down as Workington cant be dis-counted given the amount of meetings they have in hand, but at this time of the season points on the board must be an advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Would be disappointed if the Comets don't make the playoffs. Think we should be fine, especially starting tomorrow we can actually track our own 7 riders for the first time in months! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Would be disappointed if the Comets don't make the playoffs. Think we should be fine, especially starting tomorrow we can actually track our own 7 riders for the first time in months! After what i saw last Friday night , i can't see Workington making the play offs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 After what i saw last Friday night , i can't see Workington making the play offs I know what your saying, but we will be much stronger at reserve with Jacobs and Lambert especially at home then we have been all season. Pick up 6 points tomorrow night and we'll see what happens... Least we don't have the legend that is Rusty Harrison to contend with, until next week that is ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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