Leicester Lion Posted July 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Here's a thought, perhaps someone asked his opinion. And he just answered the question. He is entitled to his own view on things.It's the David Hemsley column. The Merc isn't going to pay someone else to write what is basically a puff-piece for the speedway club. He's as entitled to his opinion as anyone else, but he stretches credibility beyond the limit with his extravagant claims for BP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 What you all need to do is send an e-mail to Leicester speedway. To David Helmsley to let him know that all the away fans think it is a bad track. The Lions having ben doing it for a long time now and still no notice is taken. It his little space on God's earth, and no matter what they tell him he will disagee with any statements made. Because as he see it, it is the best racetrack in the whole of the British Isles. So please get typing and don't expect to get any replies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) Theres nothing wrong with the Lynn track - length, shape or surface. It still has the potential for great speedway that it used to have. Even this season there have been some matches with tons of overtaking - on the other hand there have also been some that you could almost count passes on just one hand. i've kept notes on the number of passes at Lynn and other tracks for donkeys years now and tbh theres not really a lot of difference from now to the 70s/80s etc, if any. There will always be (and there always was) matches where either Lynn or the away team predominantly makes the gate, and if its a heat leader that gates chances are he won't be caught - its when the top riders miss the gate that it gets interesting. Leicester on the other hand doesn't even have the potential for great racing, and never will have if it stays the shape it is. Edited July 31, 2014 by Star Fever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudflaps Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Hemsley has an opinion.... good for him...I kinda agree.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Here's a thought, perhaps someone asked his opinion. And he just answered the question. He is entitled to his own view on things.Or maybe he was mis-quotd. Now how revolutionary would that be? Not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 TMW so glad to hear about your g for a PL place next year. Hope he gets his chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 TMW so glad to hear about your g for a PL place next year. Hope he gets his chance. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 What you all need to do is send an e-mail to Leicester speedway. To David Helmsley to let him know that all the away fans think it is a bad track. The Lions having ben doing it for a long time now and still no notice is taken. It his little space on God's earth, and no matter what they tell him he will disagee with any statements made. Because as he see it, it is the best racetrack in the whole of the British Isles. So please get typing and don't expect to get any replies. As an exercise in futility, that would be up there with trying to persuade a religious fundamentalist that his beliefs are sh~t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Lion Posted July 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Or maybe he was mis-quotd. Now how revolutionary would that be? NotMisquoted in his own column over three paragraphs...yeah, right, very Che Guevara. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Misquoted in his own column over three paragraphs...yeah, right, very Che Guevara. I have some experience of being mis quoted in an article that 'I' wrote...It is still subject to Editorial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Lion Posted July 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 I have some experience of being mis quoted in an article that 'I' wrote...It is still subject to EditorialThose pesky editors and their need for correct spelling and grammar, eh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Those pesky editors and their need for correct spelling and grammar, eh? .....or Sub-editors who take out whole sentences or paragraphs to make the story fit the space, with not understanding the context of the whole piece!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruiser McHuge Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 When I had a full season going to Kings Lynn in the 90's I must admit it was probably the best track around then....but sometimes tracks are as good as the riders in the team at that particular time and that team had Henka Gustafsson and Mark Loram in it and those two were tremendous to watch and could make most tracks exciting at that time... Like people say , your memory can play tricks ....Gustafsson and Loram could make an average Lynn meeting into a truly exciting affair ...take those two out of the meeting and it was probably quite a dull affair even back then.......the same could be said of Collins and Morton at Hyde Road when I first saw speedway...they could light up quite a dull match to be honest Having said that I do think these lay downs now give a fast smooth ride and are easier to ride than the old uprights so on a fast track like Lynn the racing can be a lot worse than on the old bikes because it is easier for riders to gate and go making a rider much harder to catch than in the past 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) .....or Sub-editors who take out whole sentences or paragraphs to make the story fit the space, with not understanding the context of the whole piece!!!!! And we all know what a comma or a full stop in the wrong place can do. A woman without her man is nothing. A woman: without her, man is nothing. .....or Sub-editors who take out whole sentences or paragraphs to make the story fit the space, with not understanding the context of the whole piece!!!!! I'm staggered. But surely the whole page would be set up around Mr Hemsley's piece? Edited August 1, 2014 by TMW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) Here's a thought, perhaps someone asked his opinion. And he just answered the question. He is entitled to his own view on things. He is entitled to his own view, as we all are. I think the point is that given his much trumpeted views of the quality of racing at Leicester he wouldn't know a decent racing track if it bit him on the khyber pass. Consequently, his view has no credibility with anyone to do with speedway whatsoever and it is especially galling that a man in charge of probably the worst gaters paradise in the country feels he is justified in criticising others. If he was asked his opinion, he should have kept his mouth shut. Or maybe he was mis-quotd. Now how revolutionary would that be? Not Maybe he was but I doubt it. His criticism of King's Lynn is reflected on the pages of this thread by many others and his comments about Leicester are entirely consistent with what he has said in the past, even if they are completely opposite to what almost everyone else thinks. Edited August 1, 2014 by Halifaxtiger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 Who doesn't hemsley upset is a good question,his remarks about kings Lynn is a real shocker when his track is so highly criticised by riders,managers & Fans. I guess he won't be popular at kings lynn now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 Interesting reading about people's perception of tracks, Speedway racing then and now, etc. Suffice to say that, I'm being TOTALLY unbiased here guys. But nowhere, repeat NOWHERE, beat Waterden Road for close racing and overtaking - a point maybe substantiated by a myriad of various riders (in the 70's and 80's) stating in Speedway Mail & Star that Hackney was their favourite track. Maybe the high banking on the bends, coupled with layer after layer of fresh shale, had something to do with this? Suffice to say that at many tracks these days, I watch this sport and know only too well why the sport is dying on it's arse. I enjoyed my Friday at eight visits but it was dark and gloomy and certainly had a home bias like most i would add. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 The wick was a decent track when silver ran it, although I did witness some awful accidents there over the years. The racing was never as good when the track was changed in 1984, when crayford moved in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GiveusaB Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 I think the trouble with EL speedway tracks, is the fact that everything is being done with 'finance' or lack of? in mind! Therefore the track preparations are being compromised.....lack of dirt to handle the ever increasing power of the rnodern engine! Peterborough is the best track I've seen this season! Slightly irrelevant to the topic? but I think speedway tracks without a centre green are an eyesore imo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvinht Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 Maybe Buster should give the concrete in the middle a lick of green paint.....at least it would look nicer! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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