Star Fever Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) He certainly didn't park up in the centre. He parked himself on track just past the start line gesturing to the referee while the other riders were down the back straight forcing the referee to put the red lights on. His retirement before that he parked his bike on the centre and as the rider's came past for lap 4 he walked across the track to the pit gate gesturing while the race continued. 2 very dangerous acts not just for himself but fellow rider's. I have never seen Pedersen, Woffinden, Crump etc attempt to be as stupid as that ever. Darcy was an absolute fool last night and almost the whole stadium let him know what they thought. A professional sportsman acting totally unprofessional and a huge Darcy Ward's a banker song was sung and boos every time he was seen or mentioned. Well if he walked to the pits gate ' as the riders came past ' as you said then what danger did he cause? I've seen plenty of riders do that at Lynn on the last lap then hop over the gate - whats the problem? And I wasn't referring to that incident anyway regarding the other riders - but their similar reactions to having cameras stuck up their noses. And i'm sure lots of (the partisan GB) fans would boo him anyway simply because he's (a ) Australian (b ) a Poole rider..... would've been interesting to see the reaction if it was a Brit being 'unprofessional' Edited July 27, 2014 by Star Fever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) NOTHING wrong with the track in my opinion. Poor racing doesn't necessarily equate with poor track. Great disparity in the standard of riders on this occasion. Practice certainly doesn't help but Buster Chapman and his team, with some heavyweight machinery, ripped up the track and completely relaid it between 2 and 6pm. No doubt had Lewis Bridger followed the right procedure he would have been afforded a ticket. Nothing different to any other track would have done. Bladed it graded it watered and spiked it.. I certainly didn't see anything wrong with that track. Lewis wants to wake up, this was a World cup meeting, not an EL meeting, unless he was meching for a rider he would have been fine, had he followed the regulations. Oh is it luck then someone has a bad meeting??? Tai has been awful for Wolves this year so does that mean everyone who rides Wolves are 'lucky' The riders Neil had????? Exactly the same ones apart from Stead who was injured so that holds no weight. Your statement only give him credit if he finishes 2nd is quite pathetic! we dont have the quality to come 2nd so what a daft statement. Fcae facts that Rosco has done FAR BETTER then Middlo did last year or are you beyond admitting you were wrong. Its nor swindon fans its all fans Oh and for the record Darcy is still a petulant brat needs to grow up take a leaf out of Holders and Tai's books even Crumpys for that matter. Its quite funny reading your post when you are so far wife of the mark with all you write! What is funny is so called Brits on twiiter supporting Australia and supporting Darcy.....................oh hang on Poole fans as normal!! Cant believe them to be honest. Im an Ipswich fan but i wanted Gino to be 2nd every race behind the Brit. When he was in front of a brit i wanted him to be passed. Club does not come in to it when supporting your country unless you are one of the clan from the south coast!! Piratepride lol effing ridiculous Id take that silly wig off if i was you, it does you no favours and clearly the heat is getting to you... Edited July 27, 2014 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) I was at Sonisphere a few weeks back which is a bit bigger event than Saturday. They allowed anyone to bring in as much food as they could carry and allowed people to bring there own drink as long as they were sensible about it. They allowed a tray of lager and a couple of bottles of booze per person and water on the site was available free from the many taps on the site. I was talking to one of the bars there and they paid 25G for the weekend and there were a lot of bars and food concessions so you would have thought Sonsiphere would have banned drinks and food but they didn't. From what I saw the food and drinks stands still made a packet over the 4 days. Obviously the scale was a lot smaller but still a bit greedy to go as far as searching bags. Goodwill was shown at Sonisphere and everybody was happy but does not look like it was on display at Kings Lynn. If people were trying to walk in with a tray of beer over their shoulder fair enough maybe but to not allow folks a few sarnies and a drink of water carried in a bag strike's me as bit poor form. But since when did speedway ever really care about it's customers Edited July 27, 2014 by pandorum 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 If he was soon on the centre and out of the way why was the race stopped! Because he had stopped his bike sideways on the home straight and only moved when the red lights came on. What excuse have you got for him walking across the track to the pit gate when the race was going on earlier then. I'm an Ipswich fan by the way and couldn't give a toss if he is a Poole rider, Ipswich rider or a Brit. He was in the wrong. Where did I bring up about the camera incident, never, it was about his actions on the track. Well like the rest of us maybe he was totally bemused, and honestly thinking the red lights had come on and presumably expecting the other riders to stop also. He probably thought the ref himself had accidentally flashed them - in which case I'd guess he was expecting a rerun. As for walking across the track to pit gate if it was after the riders had passed on the 4th lap, what is the problem? As for the camera incident I thought you were referring to that also, as you weren't specific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Well if he walked to the pits gate ' as the riders came past ' as you said then what danger did he cause? I've seen plenty of riders do that at Lynn on the last lap then hop over the gate - whats the problem? Yes but he didn't hope over the gate, remained stood on track as the rider's came over the start finish at full speed. Its unacceptable and dangerous. And i'm sure lots of (the partisan GB) fans would boo him anyway simply because he's (a ) Australian (b ) a Poole rider..... would've been interesting to see the reaction if it was a Brit being 'unprofessional' The reaction would have been silence due to the rider being GB and in his home country, exactly the same as any other sport but doesn't mean people would approve. Silently would have been criticised and also lambasted on here & other social media I have no doubt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) Obviously the scale was a lot smaller but still a bit greedy to go as far as searching bags. Goodwill was shown at Sonisphere and everybody was happy but does not look like it was on display at Kings Lynn. If people were trying to walk in with a tray of beer over their shoulder fair enough maybe but to not allow folks a few sarnies and a drink of water carried in a bag strike's me as bit poor form. But since when did speedway ever really care about it's customers I'd agree it is bad form,but shouldn't be unexpected.It is though something i see a lot.Year after year for instance at the Ice Speedway in Berlin people complain that they aren't allowed to bring in their fold up stools and chairs even though it is well advertised they are not allowed.Of course they are allowed at every other speedway event during the season,but does that matter? My particular problem at Holsted was i had a new motorbike with no box to store anything.I could previously store a bottle of water in my other bike although no-one had ever searched me.And with a 6 hour round trip i sort of needed that water to get through and the plan was to buy food and drink in the stadium and the water was for my journey home.When i wasn't allowed to bring the water in then out of principle i didn't buy anything in the stadium and generally make sure i am fed and watered in advance.But with a car i can store stuff now anyway.But i hold my hand up and admit i assumed it was the same procedure as before and no searches of bags/rucksacks would be made.....To make matters worse i think this was the time a couple of friends of mine went in on press passes with their car and were walking around with their own drinks not bought at the stadium !!!!! Edited July 27, 2014 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) Ward should be banned for the rest of the world cup with his actions on the night. When he broke down in heat 11 he walked across the track and stood by the pit gate still on the track as the race was still going on. Then in heat 18 parking his bike on the home straight and getting the race stopped because he lost his dummy on bend 4. Two times putting himself and his fellow riders at risk by his actions. He needs to grow up big time and stop being a petulant little brat. Not a good example when he is supposed to be the team captain. Star Fever wrote Well like the rest of us maybe he was totally bemused, and honestly thinking the red lights had come on and presumably expecting the other riders to stop also. He probably thought the ref himself had accidentally flashed them - in which case I'd guess he was expecting a rerun. As for walking across the track to pit gate if it was after the riders had passed on the 4th lap, what is the problem? As for the camera incident I thought you were referring to that also, as you weren't specific. Read my original post above, I couldn't be more specific. As for standing by the pit gate what if there was a close finish and riders clashed going over the line and came off (it has happened before) and collected Ward at the same time. I wasn't bemused in heat 18 it looked like his bike was starting to pack up. He could have carried on as he was still in third at the time and probably could've got back past Gino, but as I said it looked like his bike was packing up. How many times have we had riders thinking they have seen a red light and slowed down only to see the other riders carrying on. It's not right by the fans who do this but it happens. If he was that adamant that he had seen a red light why wasn't an announcement made regarding this to the fans. If there was maybe Ricky Wells wouldn't have had the problem in the last race. Edited July 27, 2014 by Bash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 And i'm sure lots of (the partisan GB) fans would boo him anyway simply because he's (a ) Australian (b ) a Poole rider..... would've been interesting to see the reaction if it was a Brit being 'unprofessional' Chip on your shoulder? Ward was an idiot on track and off track last night. Take your Aussie/Poole tinted glasses on. I was reading backtrack the other day, and I think it was Dugard or Havvy commented that go to Poland or Denmark and the home fans are passionate about their nations team, in this country (and I remember this at British finals at Cov back in the day when the yanks were good) that fans in this country seem happy to cheer their club riders over their nations riders. It was great to see Kings Lynn full of flag waving British fans last night.... but either way it does not take away the fact that Ward went back a couple of years to acting like a pathetic spoilt little brat. But then again, with so many Poole sycophants, what more can we expect? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Chip on your shoulder? Ward was an idiot on track and off track last night. Take your Aussie/Poole tinted glasses on. Don't think Star Fever has Poole tinted glasses on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) Chip on your shoulder? Ward was an idiot on track and off track last night. Take your Aussie/Poole tinted glasses on. I was reading backtrack the other day, and I think it was Dugard or Havvy commented that go to Poland or Denmark and the home fans are passionate about their nations team, in this country (and I remember this at British finals at Cov back in the day when the yanks were good) that fans in this country seem happy to cheer their club riders over their nations riders. It was great to see Kings Lynn full of flag waving British fans last night.... but either way it does not take away the fact that Ward went back a couple of years to acting like a pathetic spoilt little brat. But then again, with so many Poole sycophants, what more can we expect? I'm neither a Poole supporter nor an Aussie supporter, there again I don't have anti-feelings towards them either. I am however a lover of good speedway and Darcy Ward is probably the best in the world at providing it at the moment and I am a fan, plus of course being a Lynn supporter and seeing him from the start and his progression has helped. He is still 'one of ours' wherever he rides. He was not at his best last night (obviously not happy with his bike problems) and no doubt was somewhat peeved all evening, resulting in some minor unprofessionalism maybe, but 'pathetic spoilt little brat'?? That's way over the top Anyway was he fined or warned or anything over this supposed 'unprofessionalism'? If not I've no idea why people are getting so irate over it all - seems that he's just this week's hate figure. Edited July 27, 2014 by Star Fever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 I don't think Darcy covered himself in glory last night. How much longer can the 'he's young' excuse be used? Time for him to grow up properly if he ever wants to be the best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 REPEAT what I said earlier ... don't think there was anything wrong with the track. Have you never seen a poor soccer game on the pristine pitches they now play on? Or a poor cricket test on a perfect pitch? Some times it is the performers rather than the stage... If there was nothing wrong with the track why could the World Champion and current GP leader not make an inch on a rookie Premier league rider (Manzares) Suppose if your happy with that quality of racing, then every things ok. Must admit I expected a lot more,maybe I expected too much ! Watching on TV it was pretty mundane ! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 As somebody else said, Rosco got lucky, Darcy was way off colour and it was a weak Aussie side. look at the riders Neil had, and for that matter Rob Lyon had against them in the period they were managers, and look how much Tai has improved since? ...So if we look at the meeting gb were eliminated in last year.An aussie team of ward doyle woodward and Batchelor - are you saying that the aussie team yesterday was weaker? Usa - three rider s same as yesterday. Latvia - admittedly stronger than italy Now team gb last year finished last against those opponents, yesterday tbey finished top. As for tai - I think most would agree he was riding better last year than this year. Fwiw, a lot of small things went gbs way yesterday, but you're just making yourself look more foolish than usual by refusing to acknowledge that yesterday represented a huge improvement on last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Read my original post above, I couldn't be more specific. You started off by saying "....with his actions on the night." Yes, you then described some in particular, but actions (plural) can mean anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 If there was nothing wrong with the track why could the World Champion and current GP leader not make an inch on a rookie Premier league rider (Manzares) Suppose if your happy with that quality of racing, then every things ok. Must admit I expected a lot more,maybe I expected too much ! Watching on TV it was pretty mundane ! While the racing was poor I put Tai's first heat down to set up issues, didn't look fast or comfortable in that race. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Well I enjoyed last nights meeting great result for GB - as for the track moaners under the circumstances hot dry sunny weather I think Buster and his team did a fantastic job since the Norfolk Arena first staged this every year so far we have enjoyed great weather but laws of averages say one of these years if Lynn continue to stage this meeting it going to be wet so just remember how lucky we all was last night when another year it could be wet . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 I'm neither a Poole supporter nor an Aussie supporter, there again I don't have anti-feelings towards them either. I am however a lover of good speedway and Darcy Ward is probably the best in the world at providing it at the moment and I am a fan, plus of course being a Lynn supporter and seeing him from the start and his progression has helped. He is still 'one of ours' wherever he rides. You have just confirmed what I stated earlier in this thread why you are defending his actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 I would actually like to thank the staff at King's Lynn last night for sorting out what could have caused me all sorts of problems............... We pre booked seats in the grandstand as I am unable to stand for a long time and have to keep my leg stretched out..........we found our seats and there was no leg room at all.............so we spoke to one of the stewards there who advised us to go to the box office and see if they could be changed........... We did this and they were able to change the tickets for front row ones close to the pit gate where there was plenty of room to move if I needed to.............. Only bag check was a cursory glance in the top of my handbag and there were huge signs warning not to take anything in.........bar was reasonably priced anyway so it did not matter............. Great result for Team GB........... RP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw42 Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Chip on your shoulder? Ward was an idiot on track and off track last night. Take your Aussie/Poole tinted glasses on. I was reading backtrack the other day, and I think it was Dugard or Havvy commented that go to Poland or Denmark and the home fans are passionate about their nations team, in this country (and I remember this at British finals at Cov back in the day when the yanks were good) that fans in this country seem happy to cheer their club riders over their nations riders. It was great to see Kings Lynn full of flag waving British fans last night.... but either way it does not take away the fact that Ward went back a couple of years to acting like a pathetic spoilt little brat. But then again, with so many Poole sycophants, what more can we expect? There were no Americans riding in the British Finals. I agree about Ward, he seemed to have got a grip of that petulant streak but it resurfaced last night, just because things weren't going his way, poor form. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 You have just confirmed what I stated earlier in this thread why you are defending his actions. Maybe I should also add that if it was Woffinden, Holder, Doyle, Manzares, Covatti or virtually any other rider who endured what Ward did on Saturday I'd feel a bit of sympathy for any 'unprofessionalism' they subsequently showed. Whilst not exercising perfect control its maybe excusable under the circumstances as far as I'm concerned. There's been a lot worse behaviour on and off the track and it is rarely punished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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