Starman2006 Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) Well what a cracking result for the boys! Special praise must go to Rosco. Knew how to pick a decent side i.e the best 4 available and more importantly knew how to motivate them and get them up for it. What a difference 12 months makes from having Old mother hen Muddlo picking poor riders and a complete lack of motivation. Can't see Starman and the other Poole fans on here who said NOBODY could do any better with the pool of riders we have! Erm wrong! We are on the final and with Middlo we couldn't beat the yanks or Latvia! People moaning bout the track need to understand in a lot of races there was only 2 riders who could win it therefore you weren't going to get class racing. Have the final at Lynn with 4 top sides and the racing would be better. Darcy tonight made me realise that he is still the brat he always had been absolutly pathetic! Needs to look at Holder and Tai and there attitude As somebody else said, Rosco got lucky, Darcy was way off colour and it was a weak Aussie side. look at the riders Neil had, and for that matter Rob Lyon had against them in the period they were managers, and look how much Tai has improved since? If we finish best runners up,as we did in 04 then, i will give Rosco credit, and say well done to him in 2 weeks time at poole. Its a very cheap shot from mainly Swindon fans having a poke at Neil, funny that...Lets see how brave you are when you come to Wimborne rd a week wednesday!! And by the way Gavan, Darcy is NOT a brat, you fancy a camera poked in your face after a decision like that? Even Wells saw the "RED" light and stopped. On that subject, if somebody is doing this deliberately then they are so stupid its untrue, and if they are caught then they should be thrown out and banned from speedway for a good period of time, with there mugshot distributed around every track in the country... Edited July 27, 2014 by Starman2006 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunichMassive Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 I only wonder why they didnt use Aaron Fox as he is a permanent rider in the premier league for Ipswich. Would of been cheaper than flying in Max Ruml from the States. But the boy did a good job! I dont think Fox would of done better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Agree.Nice to have a discussion without all the crap.But i still think to an extent the Danes for instance protect the kids in that as far as i remember their youngsters are the only ones allowed to have a grade D???Which gives them easier rides.Not that they really need it,as with so many kids riding one or two are almost certain of coming through whatever the system.That is where they win hand down.If we could attract as many kids into the sport then we would stand a good chance of more coming through our system whther it is good or bad. And no Lambert hasn't made it yet,but at this stage he looks as good a bet as any Swede or Dane or his age.But we can all point to great young riders like Zabik or Hlib or even the much touted(on here)Bridger..... The Danish model of 5 rider teams pits the #4 and #5 against the top men including a heat 10 when they ride against the #1 and #2 so they get to race against top riders where ours don't. I think we should have a grading system here and abandon averages which are too easily manipulated. And favour our riders massively over foreign ones. But that won't happen. Lambert is probably unique to our speedway that he has taken a completely different route and benefitted from it. Is he better than the young Danes and Swedes? Time will tell but he does need to compete in their leagues. I saw him on TV for Outrup in the Danish league and he did OK but was beaten twice by Palm Toft (once from the back) but managed to beat Artem Laguta. Don't think he has had any more outings which is a shame. I have seen many a young rider beat top men at both BL levels and maybe we should take a chance. Obviously NL level against EL is a bit much but someone made the point recently that we should take the best PL and put them on a fast track in EL and do the same with NL in PL. Maybe next year they will get it right and save money and help our young kids. On the USA situation they didn't have an option but to put young Ruml in.Fisher was going to ride until he got injured. Did not know that. Thanks for the clarification Bit of luck for the Yanks then as Ruml did well. Ok he did not tear up the track but looked steady in all his rides and must have gained a whole lot from that experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTM Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Congrats to the gb team last night totally unexpected. I think Rosco is going to have to sweep very very hard in Poland on Saturday to get Steady and Danny bikes to anywhere near the front of their races as they didn,t look competitive towards the end of the meeting and you definately need speed on Polish tracks .Having said that if Darcy Ward has another night like last night and( Nikki ,NKI ,AJ etc etc have bike problems ) in the words of actor James Cagney "TOP OF THE WORLD MA " This last bit won,t mean anything to posters under 40 yrs old I,m showing my age sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 get used to it, 4 ENGLISH riders, support someone else if you that sillyExplain how it is being silly?I am a very proud Scotsman, I also happen to be A Brit, but I am certainly not English. It is the people trolling by calling team GB England that are being silly. For once I agree with Gavan, and whoever he was having a go at in his deleted post, at least the mods could edit these peoples posts, as like it or not it is team GB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Ignore the troll Blacksmith - after all didnt he think Team GB did well in the winter Olympics curling? personally I think it says more about these people than any of our comments would. as for editing posts for inaccuracy, the mods would have to 1) be right all the time - yeah right! and 2) spent their entire life changing things! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Let's face it... the SWC isn't the competition it once was.. riders pulling out... some can't be arsed, even when riding. Perhaps the top stars would be encouraged to wanna race it... if the SWC week wasn't giving them the opportunity to swan off with their families for a mid-season break. Time to go back to a one-off event... just maybe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 I only wonder why they didnt use Aaron Fox as he is a permanent rider in the premier league for Ipswich. Would of been cheaper than flying in Max Ruml from the States. But the boy did a good job! I dont think Fox would of done better.Fox rides for Edinburgh in PL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Eye Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Let's face it... the SWC isn't the competition it once was.. riders pulling out... some can't be arsed, even when riding. Perhaps the top stars would be encouraged to wanna race it... if the SWC week wasn't giving them the opportunity to swan off with their families for a mid-season break. Time to go back to a one-off event... just maybe? That's disgusting. Maybe the families of anyone who becomes a professional speedway rider should be executed? Wasn't there any qualifying rounds in the past then for the World Team Cup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 That's disgusting. Maybe the families of anyone who becomes a professional speedway rider should be executed? Wasn't there any qualifying rounds in the past then for the World Team Cup? Yes... but speedway didn't take a week off for everyone of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Team GB I support, if it is England, then I would rather anyone else wins!!!!Fair enough, I would anyone else win than andy murray but come wimbledon everyone calls him british 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Did not know that. Thanks for the clarification Bit of luck for the Yanks then as Ruml did well. Ok he did not tear up the track but looked steady in all his rides and must have gained a whole lot from that experience. You have a strange definition of "luck". They lost their 2nd best rider to injury and, with the way things went last night, they would have had a really good chance of going straight to the final if Ryan had been fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Eye Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Yes... but speedway didn't take a week off for everyone of them. It could have an official week off in memory of the fallen families. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 It could have an official week off in memory of the fallen families. Just gonna get my tinfoil helmet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 As somebody else said, Rosco got lucky, Darcy was way off colour and it was a weak Aussie side. look at the riders Neil had, and for that matter Rob Lyon had against them in the period they were managers, and look how much Tai has improved since? If we finish best runners up,as we did in 04 then, i will give Rosco credit, and say well done to him in 2 weeks time at poole. Its a very cheap shot from mainly Swindon fans having a poke at Neil, funny that...Lets see how brave you are when you come to Wimborne rd a week wednesday!! And by the way Gavan, Darcy is NOT a brat, you fancy a camera poked in your face after a decision like that? Even Wells saw the "RED" light and stopped. On that subject, if somebody is doing this deliberately then they are so stupid its untrue, and if they are caught then they should be thrown out and banned from speedway for a good period of time, with there mugshot distributed around every track in the country... Darcy is a brat and I hope he never wins the individual World title. His attitude was inexcusable last night. Twitter was absolutely hilarious last night too. Poole fans supporting Australia, Poole fans defending Ward, Poole fans banging their stupid PiratePride, PiratesForLife etc hashtag drum It really p!$$es me off in speedway when joker Brits support other national teams. It's not about the individuals, it's about National pride for our Nation. Woffinden gets battered and called an "Aussie" yet we have our own supporting other Nations, very sad. Agree with Blacksmith too, it is Great Britian, not England. The racing wasn't great last night by any stretch, but the atmosphere really did make up for the poor racing. So wish tracks up and down the country could replicate it and see it week in week out 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTM Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 As somebody else said, Rosco got lucky, Darcy was way off colour and it was a weak Aussie side. look at the riders Neil had, and for that matter Rob Lyon had against them in the period they were managers, and look how much Tai has improved since? If we finish best runners up,as we did in 04 then, i will give Rosco credit, and say well done to him in 2 weeks time at poole. Its a very cheap shot from mainly Swindon fans having a poke at Neil, funny that...Lets see how brave you are when you come to Wimborne rd a week wednesday!! And by the way Gavan, Darcy is NOT a brat, you fancy a camera poked in your face after a decision like that? Even Wells saw the "RED" light and stopped. On that subject, if somebody is doing this deliberately then they are so stupid its untrue, and if they are caught then they should be thrown out and banned from speedway for a good period of time, with there mugshot distributed around every track in the country... This situation with red lights is getting worse with the upgrade of technology in cameras .There has been quite a lot of incidents at Leicester this season on the 3rd/4th bends of people taking shots of the racing from the crowd .The old time flash bulb on cameras were not a problem but nowadays a bright red light emitting from the crowd on the terracing is obviously in a split second racing scenario going to result in situations like last night .At Leicester numerous appeals to stop using the red flash were totally ignored by the various people using the cameras and I,m worried that unless some legislation is brought in very quickly a rider or riders are going to get hurt in a totally unnecessary accident .Please take notiuce BSPA and eradicate the problem.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) You have a strange definition of "luck". They lost their 2nd best rider to injury and, with the way things went last night, they would have had a really good chance of going straight to the final if Ryan had been fit. Fair comment. Although in my defence I meant 'Luck' as instead of using a rider from the past they got to give a chance to a rider from the future and was not being nasty to Ryan who I hope recovers fully and swiftly from his injury. They lost their 2nd best rider to injury and, with the way things went last night, they would have had a really good chance of going straight to the final if Ryan had been fit. A chance but not a good chance as I am sure they like us did not expect to do that well. I doubt Fisher would not have made the difference between winning and coming 2nd which they did as our lot were on fire. But of course we will never know as with 'what if's' anything is possible. So again fair comment! Edited July 27, 2014 by pandorum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Lewis Bridger has just tweeted that he had to pay to be at KL last night. Begs the question -why? There seemed to be dozens of non riding and non working "personalities" in the pits last night. Did the likes of Ermolenko and Louis pay? Bridger is a Team GB squad member, maybe if he had to pay it explains why there was little or no evidence of any of the other squad members in evidence. I doubt I'd pay if I were one of them. Well done to Bridger at least he was there to support Team GB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 This situation with red lights is getting worse with the upgrade of technology in cameras .There has been quite a lot of incidents at Leicester this season on the 3rd/4th bends of people taking shots of the racing from the crowd .The old time flash bulb on cameras were not a problem but nowadays a bright red light emitting from the crowd on the terracing is obviously in a split second racing scenario going to result in situations like last night .At Leicester numerous appeals to stop using the red flash were totally ignored by the various people using the cameras and I,m worried that unless some legislation is brought in very quickly a rider or riders are going to get hurt in a totally unnecessary accident .Please take notiuce BSPA and eradicate the problem.. It's a situation that will never be eradicated with modern technology. Speedway needs to find a new solution to stop a race. Maybe red strobing strip lights across the airfences or similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Lewis Bridger has just tweeted that he had to pay to be at KL last night. Begs the question -why? There seemed to be dozens of non riding and non working "personalities" in the pits last night. Did the likes of Ermolenko and Louis pay? Bridger is a Team GB squad member, maybe if he had to pay it explains why there was little or no evidence of any of the other squad members in evidence. I doubt I'd pay if I were one of them. Well done to Bridger at least he was there to support Team GB. That's just plain wrong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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