marko Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Track was not great but scoreline kept things more than interesting, i think it was probably the hot weather on the day baking the track plus with practice earlier it would have been near impossible to work a track you would normally see, it can only take so much punishment plus you keep on top of the watering whilst practice is on. Never expected Australia to come third although i did find it amusing because they are such bad losers and we always seem to take extra pride as a nation when getting one over them. Keep tactical sub but lose the joker, you don't need both especially with teams of only four riders and it should also be for when your eight behind the leaders not six. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) Contrary to the majority on here, I thoroughly enjoyed the meeting last night and was well pleased with the spectacle than was put on. Remembering it was being beamed all over Europe, I thought the people who worked to put the show on did a wonderful job. Went early, but couldn't believe the queues when we arrived at 4.30. They were nearly into St Germans. It seemed everyone had a similar idea. There were no hassle. we got a good vantage point and thoroughly enjoyed the atmosphere and the banter. The weather was good, the crowd was boisterous and the racing was fast and furious. The track consistence and safe. People on here have moaned about the racing, but to me it was OK. When you have big meetings with big riders, on fast bikes, you don't see many classic races . 2, 3, possibly 5 if your lucky. These class of riders don't make many mistakes The racing was fast, close and exciting, but the noise and atmosphere made it even better. I always raved about the Wembley finals, but then there were only a few races that was memorable. the rest were boring strung out affairs from the gate. It was the occasion that made it better than it was. So when looking back to last night . I was well pleased I made the effort to attend, unlike some who could be bothered. To all those who worked hard to make last night possible , I say well done . It showed the world , we can organise and promote a decent meeting with a big crowd. England winning was the icing on the cake. Totally agree, racing wasnt the best but atmosphere terrific and crowd levels were better than last year, very enjoyable night out . The only thing I would say is that there could be more food and drink outlets especially on back straight. I wasnt able to get there very early but that turned out to be a good thing as there were no queues by the time we got there, overall a excellent event in beautiful weather. Cant understand why anyone would rather be at home in front of the tv, which probably came over as boring without the atmosphere to enjoy.England weren't even racing, it was team GBAll the riders were english and the manager, easy mistake to make and why even mention it, must have everything absolutely correct! Edited July 27, 2014 by foreverblue 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Im still confused over some fans reaction to the track. In most races there were only really 2 riders that could win it unless Greg was racing . Gino mixed it a bit as well as Covatti. So when you have only 2 riders what are people expecting them to do pass and repass?? Did nobody see Harris come from last to first and Covatti pass in his last ride.? As i said get 4 evenly balanced teams on the track and have a race of Tai, Holder, Pedersen and Kasprzak then moan about the track. A race of Tai, Woodward, Ruml and Castagna is hardly going to set the world alight!! Those people moaning we were lucky get a grip!! The Aussies missed Holder granted but everything else can happen in speedway! Ward had a poor night that happens its not lucky! The second best rider team gb has in Nicholls isnt even racing so it evens up and we were DESERVED winners not lucky Rosco got lucky.. He faced the weakest Aus side in a long long time. No Holder Ward half-fitWoodword out of his depth Batchelor thinking he's a godsend. If Rosco finishes above Poland/Denmark then he gets credit. hahahahahahhaahhahahah prize twit shows his face again. No Holder = No Nicholls Ward isnt half fit you prat. fit enough in the gp's he was garbage last night and spat his dummy like a petulant brat. Woodward wasnt out of his depth. better than all the italians and the yanks except Greg and on his day is as good as Stead and King. Batchelor although a bit of a tool at times is a top quality rider and is good at Lynn. When was the last time we made a final? You are a pathetic sad individual your lack of knowledge is disturbing. Do us all a favour and stop your ridiculous trolling outbursts. The thing is i will probably get a ban for calling you a prat yet the mods do nothing about you and your trolling. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Not condoning Ward, but the last thing you want when you've had a rotten night is someone sticking a camera under your nose. Very good professional display from GB. Well deserved The cameraman wanted a reaction, he got it!!!!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 England weren't even racing, it was team GB Tell Scott Nicholls that as he called them England several times. Sad part is this result, which was fantastic by the way and huge credit to the lads in the team who were not 'lucky' at all but won fair and square, will not help us one bit in building a team to win the WTC. Hopefully these guys can get a rostrum place in the Final. But in terms of bringing on the next generation it's no help at all. The fast track idea won't test the youngsters as they are 'protected'. Poland, Sweden and Denmark don't protect theirs and look how well that works for them. Oliver Berntzon who was a fair to middling reserve last year getting a chance to ride in the WTC with Sweden an eye to the future. The US threw two lads in at the deep end yesterday and had an incredible time. Yes Rosco stuck it to all us doubters and showed how stupid we were to put down his team but what was gained for England/GB? Well we know Tai is world champion and may retain his title and will lead this team for many years to come. And that's it really. Our support trio rode their guts out and scored double figures against two weak teams with one or two world class riders on display who they beat fair and square. But they are the past not the future. So wonderful we got straight to the final. I hope we win it. But we probably won't. A rostrum position will be an incredible result for this team and a deserving reward for their efforts. But it won't help the development of our team one iota. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Being there and part of it would have helped the likes of Garrity, Lambert, Ellis etc. May be mistaken but didn't see them in and around the pits, was Cook even there? Rosco said he was going to be first reserve but seems that was Worrall in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 You are a pathetic sad individual your lack of knowledge is disturbing. Do us all a favour and stop your ridiculous trolling outbursts. The thing is i will probably get a ban for calling you a prat yet the mods do nothing about you and your trolling. Sad part is he/she/it does have a decent knowledge of speedway and shows it sometimes but for some reason wants to be the centre of attention with outrageous posting. Some people are like that. desperately seeking someone to hate them. We should really pity he/she/it rather than abuse them they must have a really desperate life if their world revolves around a silly internet forum . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 England weren't even racing, it was team GB Whatever..........I bet you being so finicky makes you feel real good............ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Tell Scott Nicholls that as he called them England several times. But in terms of bringing on the next generation it's no help at all. The fast track idea won't test the youngsters as they are 'protected'. Poland, Sweden and Denmark don't protect theirs and look how well that works for them. The US threw two lads in at the deep end yesterday and had an incredible time. But it won't help the development of our team one iota. Think too many are trying to find negatives.Enjoy the win as i very much doubt under Middlo we would have got it.Good step in the right direction for me.Not looking for anything great in the final.If it comes then it will be a wonderful result. As for the other countries.....Not sure why you mention Sweden as their production line of young talent is probably worse than ours!!!!I would say there is some protection of youngsters in Sweden and Denmark as there are limits/grades.It might not be as tough as this new system,but it still protects the youngsters.Good that Robert Lambert is talented enough to by-pass that and he looks to be as talented as any Swedish rider of the past few years As for the US.well did they really have any other option than to throw a youngster in? We don't have many options either at this moment in time,but this should give confidence in Rosco and the team.That is a step in the right direction imo and bodes well for the future 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Totally agree, racing wasnt the best but atmosphere terrific and crowd levels were better than last year, very enjoyable night out . The only thing I would say is that there could be more food and drink outlets especially on back straight. I wasnt able to get there very early but that turned out to be a good thing as there were no queues by the time we got there, overall a excellent event in beautiful weather. Cant understand why anyone would rather be at home in front of the tv, which probably came over as boring without the atmosphere to enjoy. All the riders were english and the manager, easy mistake to make and why even mention it, must have everything absolutely correct! Team GB I support, if it is England, then I would rather anyone else wins!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) Think too many are trying to find negatives.Enjoy the win as i very much doubt under Middlo we would have got it.Good step in the right direction for me.Not looking for anything great in the final.If it comes then it will be a wonderful result. As for the other countries.....Not sure why you mention Sweden as their production line of young talent is probably worse than ours!!!!I would say there is some protection of youngsters in Sweden and Denmark as there are limits/grades.It might not be as tough as this new system,but it still protects the youngsters.Good that Robert Lambert is talented enough to by-pass that and he looks to be as talented as any Swedish rider of the past few years As for the US.well did they really have any other option than to throw a youngster in? We don't have many options either at this moment in time,but this should give confidence in Rosco and the team.That is a step in the right direction imo and bodes well for the future I enjoyed the sh#t out of last night I loved every minute of it but my point still stands. Sweden and Denmark don't protect their youngsters on the track and that is surely where it matters and lets face it their youngsters are riding here but ours are not riding there which says something about their production line. And US could have used Fisher but they didn't instead they threw 2 youngsters in. Robert Lambert may look it but has he proved it yet? No! Will he? I do hope so as we need him. Your last sentence I disagree with but hell we all have an opinion and life would be dull if we all agreed with each other Edited July 27, 2014 by pandorum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 I enjoyed the sh#t out of last night I loved every minute of it but my point still stands. Sweden and Denmark don't protect their youngsters on the track and that is surely where it matters. Robert Lambert may look it but has he proved it yet? No! Will he? I do hope so as we need him. Your last sentence I disagree with but hell we all have an opinion and life would be dull if we all agreed with each other Agree.Nice to have a discussion without all the crap.But i still think to an extent the Danes for instance protect the kids in that as far as i remember their youngsters are the only ones allowed to have a grade D???Which gives them easier rides.Not that they really need it,as with so many kids riding one or two are almost certain of coming through whatever the system.That is where they win hand down.If we could attract as many kids into the sport then we would stand a good chance of more coming through our system whther it is good or bad. And no Lambert hasn't made it yet,but at this stage he looks as good a bet as any Swede or Dane or his age.But we can all point to great young riders like Zabik or Hlib or even the much touted(on here)Bridger..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbt Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 If the Aussies had 20 engine failures,the yanks had 20 tape exclusions and the eyeties 20 non starts I wouldn't care,we WON,and giving the state of British speedway at the moment I will accept a win whichever way we get one!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 You are a pathetic sad individual your lack of knowledge is disturbing. Do us all a favour and stop your ridiculous trolling outbursts. The thing is i will probably get a ban for calling you a prat yet the mods do nothing about you and your trolling. Put it on ignore. It makes the forum so much more easier to read! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Team GB I support, if it is England, then I would rather anyone else wins!!!! get used to it, 4 ENGLISH riders, support someone else if you that silly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P T Preece Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Quite enjoyed that, the aussies had some terrible luck, the Yanks looked ok but what are they going to do when the old bloke retires, apart from Nico Covatti the Italians were way out of it. Well done to the Brit lads, they all rode well and pulled it off, straight to the final, looking forward to the second round, not having to worry. Come on Team GB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 yeah, the scots, welsh nd irish really helped!! think last time i saw scots was at foxhall in 70s eng/scots/nz/aus with bobby beaton!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 And US could have used Fisher but they didn't instead they threw 2 youngsters in.Ermm...USA would have used Ryan Fisher if he hadn't been injured. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 I enjoyed the sh#t out of last night I loved every minute of it but my point still stands. Sweden and Denmark don't protect their youngsters on the track and that is surely where it matters and lets face it their youngsters are riding here but ours are not riding there which says something about their production line. And US could have used Fisher but they didn't instead they threw 2 youngsters in. Robert Lambert may look it but has he proved it yet? No! Will he? I do hope so as we need him. Your last sentence I disagree with but hell we all have an opinion and life would be dull if we all agreed with each other On the USA situation they didn't have an option but to put young Ruml in.Fisher was going to ride until he got injured. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 yeah, the scots, welsh nd irish really helped!! think last time i saw scots was at foxhall in 70s eng/scots/nz/aus with bobby beaton!! Well the Welsh connections certainly appeared to help - Rosco and Morris!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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