tellboy Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 The racing wasnt the best but the atmosphere was terrific but you had to be there to appreciate that maybe there were issues earlier in the day but I expect without roadworks the traffic would be very heavy on a saturday during the summer as alot of people would go that way on their way to the coast but as the meeting was in the evening it was always likely to not be as bad by then. Quite agree racing wasn't that good last night,possibly down to practice a few hours earlier or even the weather being too damn hot all week and not being able to get a good bit of moisture in the track,i dunno.They said Buster had been putting water down all day,apart from when they were practising of course.And after a few heats it became a bit dusty. Having said all of the above the atmosphere does it for me aswell and with 90% of the crowd cheering team GB on I love it.Took a couple of mates last night aswell one for the first time and he absolutely loved it.So it proves if you can get a good atmosphere at matches the racing doesn't always have to be brilliant to encourage people to come.Incidentally I probably wouldn't go to Cardiff if the atmosphere wasn't as good as it is as we have seen some poor ones there as well. No traffic problems for me neither,mind you I did come the back roads Come unstuck going home though got stuck in the middle of 5 bloody combines for about 3 miles before I could take another alternative route home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 I have been following the Swedish speedway, some good meeting some terrible ones that are no diferent from what we see at our EL tracks. It is the speed of the bikes that causes the problems no matter who is racing it is 8 out of 10 to be a long strung out race. I think we have to give the young Brits another couple of seasons, before they come to the national side we have a fist full of good young riders now who are almost there but not quite ready at the moment to come to the front. Great win and good to see a team GB win again after so long out of the limelight. Hope they do well on Saturday. They derserve to do well and all the supporters deserve to see our GB team on the rostram again. I think they are in with a good chance if they all ride thier hearts out as they did last night. And yes Ward is a brat, never liked him and never will do. He is just to cocky for my liking and when things don't go his way then things start to fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Did they check your bags? Yes they were checking everyones bags just before the ticket barrier and there were signs stating that no personal food or drink to be taken into the stadium where you purchased your tickets. This was the first we knew about this. I took a friend of mine who had had a stroke earlier this year and he is only allowed to eat and drink certain things at the moment, and we had to persuade the people inspecting the bags to allow him past with his food and drink items and they did in the end but were reluctant to at first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Pretty disgusting that on such a hot day that they stopped people bringing their own food and drink into the stadium. When we got in the stadium they were announcing over the pa system that as it is such a hot day make sure you drink plenty of fluids to keep you hydrated, and if you spot people in distress call the first aid people immediately. They wouldn't have a problem if they let people bring in their own drinks. What if people haven't got the money to buy more drinks, you are putting people in danger. Just another money making scheme which isn't a good one. that is because as a human being upon entering the stadium all your sence of safety and ability to function stop and you may choke on a sandwich you made yourself or you may decide to streak on the track after a can of tango you brought at tesco .its all done in the name of health and safety and avoid a potential disaster. Or it could just be some money grabbing prats who feel the need to fleece everyone 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Yes they were checking everyones bags just before the ticket barrier and there were signs stating that no personal food or drink to be taken into the stadium where you purchased your tickets. This was the first we knew about this. I took a friend of mine who had had a stroke earlier this year and he is only allowed to eat and drink certain things at the moment, and we had to persuade the people inspecting the bags to allow him past with his food and drink items and they did in the end but were reluctant to at first. Like your friend, due to health issues, I can only eat certain foods, which aren't available generally speaking at sports stadiums. I can understand why promoters don't want people to take their own food/drink into their stadiums, but forgetting any health issues, It costs people a lot of money to travel to, and pay to get into speedway meetings, and the weekly budget won't always allow for you to but overpriced refreshments as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Surely these things are known about taking food and drink into sporting events and concerts?I have had a bottle of water taken off me in Denmark.You can't complain about such things.You expect them to want to sell their own stuff as someone might have even payed to be allowed to sell food and drink in the stadium.I understand the feeling of getting fleeced for a bottle of water or beer when you can pay much much less at Aldi.But it is like not being allowed to bring a camera into a concert and then everyone is taking pics on their mobiles anyway........annoying,but you know the conditions beforehand 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Must be some consumer rights law that makes this type of ban illegal surely? Certainly in plenty of other fields it is not allowed to make one purchase condtional to another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Does this happen at King's Lynn all the time or was it a one off for this meeting regarding the food and drink? Surely these things are known about taking food and drink into sporting events and concerts?I have had a bottle of water taken off me in Denmark.You can't complain about such things.You expect them to want to sell their own stuff as someone might have even payed to be allowed to sell food and drink in the stadium.I understand the feeling of getting fleeced for a bottle of water or beer when you can pay much much less at Aldi.But it is like not being allowed to bring a camera into a concert and then everyone is taking pics on their mobiles anyway........annoying,but you know the conditions beforehand This is the first year at this meeting that they have stopped you taking food and drink in. Last year they stopped you taking in the free Monster Energy drink cans (and they sponsor the meeting!) in but you could take in plastic bottles and food. So no, we didn't know the conditions beforehand, even at Cardiff I have taken drinks in but they remove the plastic lids from the bottles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Are you defending his actions then as he is an ex King's Lynn rider. He needs to grow up and facing a punishment for his actions might make him. What actions? When he retired due to the red light incident he was soon on the centre and out of the way. When an over-enthusiastic cameraman shoved a camera towards him after that incident in the pits, he was obviously fuming with rage that he'd been fooled by a bogus red light and thus let his side down and ANY rider would've felt the same surely? There've been similar reactions on TV over the years too - Tai and Jason Crump are two that I remember. They're only human and and are obviously wound up at the time so its stupid for the media to be anywhere near them in times of stress and only have themselves to blame for adverse reactions like pushing cameras or swearing. I don't know your allegiances but maybe if it wasn't a Poole rider, or a Brit reacting in the same way last night you wouldn't have said a word ? Darcy is a brat and I hope he never wins the individual World title. His attitude was inexcusable last night. Geez, talk about an over the top reaction! He did nothing worse than many other riders have done in times of stress. I take it you dislike Tai & Crump too or has your memory cleansed them for some reason? As for NickiP he must be public enemy #1 in your eyes! Personally I'm looking forward to the day Darcy is world champ - the most talented rider in our midst today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 I thought it was a good meeting with a nice result in team GB winning on the night. Although I have a lot better racing at Kings Lynn before I think the track staff did well with the warm and humid conditions not much dust was created and a constant amount of grip. Just a couple of improvements that I think could have been made by BSI for the future, A number of members on here and around the tracks go on about pre meeting entertainment at Cardiff but it is at the World Cup where the event entertainment is needed like the stunt bike guy or a covers band like the Magoos. As we all know majority of fans only get into the stadium just before parade as all the pubs and attractions of Cardiff, where as at Kings Lynn most fans arrive early to get best spots and because of travelling to event. Last night there was nothing and felt very flat to start with. Also last night after the rare GB win why was there no presentation on the centre for the winners and national anthem as in previous years also meant no photos, this was especially strange as Eurosport remained on air well after GB did quick lap on the Monster truck so the satellite feed and broadcast was still open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwaysliders Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 On the plus side,fair play to Simon Stead for getting us off to a great start,ive had a go at Simon in the past that for his style of racing and not letting the bike flow,but what do i know,he was focused and smooth,and looked like he wanted to be there with a bike tuned by ashley Holloway who was there in the pits to help him out.The bike was superbly set up for heat 1,simon looked very well prepared and just didnt turn up and hope for the best from the bike,it looked like they put the effort in and got the rewards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 What actions? When he retired due to the red light incident he was soon on the centre and out of the way. When an over-enthusiastic cameraman shoved a camera towards him after that incident in the pits, he was obviously fuming with rage that he'd been fooled by a bogus red light and thus let his side down and ANY rider would've felt the same surely? There've been similar reactions on TV over the years too - Tai and Jason Crump are two that I remember. They're only human and and are obviously wound up at the time so its stupid for the media to be anywhere near them in times of stress and only have themselves to blame for adverse reactions like pushing cameras or swearing. I don't know your allegiances but maybe if it wasn't a Poole rider, or a Brit reacting in the same way last night you wouldn't have said a word ? Geez, talk about an over the top reaction! He did nothing worse than many other riders have done in times of stress. I take it you dislike Tai & Crump too or has your memory cleansed them for some reason? As for NickiP he must be public enemy #1 in your eyes! Personally I'm looking forward to the day Darcy is world champ - the most talented rider in our midst today. long wait me thinks, especially with Tai soo young! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) Does this happen at King's Lynn all the time or was it a one off for this meeting regarding the food and drink? This is the first year at this meeting that they have stopped you taking food and drink in. Last year they stopped you taking in the free Monster Energy drink cans (and they sponsor the meeting!) in but you could take in plastic bottles and food. So no, we didn't know the conditions beforehand, even at Cardiff I have taken drinks in but they remove the plastic lids from the bottles. Don't want to get into a big debate about it.I just took your previous statement "Yes they were checking everyones bags just before the ticket barrier and there were signs stating that no personal food or drink to be taken into the stadium where you purchased your tickets. " as knowing the conditions beforehand as the signs telling you about them were where people bought their tickets.fair enough imo.Basically if you are going to be worried about things you should ask.Probably before you travel or purchase tickets.If on the other hand you were told beforehand that you could take food and drink into the stadium then you have grounds for complaint.I have been allowed to take food/drink into Esbjerg and even previously into Holsted,but when they refused me at Holsted i had no grounds for complaint.It was annoying as i had a 3 hour journey back home,but i couldn't argue that they previously allowed me in or that another track allowed me in with water as things do change and i accept i hadn't asked if they had changed........ Edited July 27, 2014 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 I thought it was a good meeting with a nice result in team GB winning on the night. Although I have a lot better racing at Kings Lynn before I think the track staff did well with the warm and humid conditions not much dust was created and a constant amount of grip. Just a couple of improvements that I think could have been made by BSI for the future, A number of members on here and around the tracks go on about pre meeting entertainment at Cardiff but it is at the World Cup where the event entertainment is needed like the stunt bike guy or a covers band like the Magoos. As we all know majority of fans only get into the stadium just before parade as all the pubs and attractions of Cardiff, where as at Kings Lynn most fans arrive early to get best spots and because of travelling to event. Last night there was nothing and felt very flat to start with. Also last night after the rare GB win why was there no presentation on the centre for the winners and national anthem as in previous years also meant no photos, this was especially strange as Eurosport remained on air well after GB did quick lap on the Monster truck so the satellite feed and broadcast was still open. THERE is no winner's presentation after, for example, a soccer side wins a semi-final. It was felt that the rounds in KL and Vastervik are just that and that the only time there should be presentation is in the Final itself. Do take your point about pre-meeting entertainment but Buster was still working on the track until the presentation was about to start... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 What actions? When he retired due to the red light incident he was soon on the centre and out of the way. He certainly didn't park up in the centre. He parked himself on track just past the start line gesturing to the referee while the other riders were down the back straight forcing the referee to put the red lights on. His retirement before that he parked his bike on the centre and as the rider's came past for lap 4 he walked across the track to the pit gate gesturing while the race continued. 2 very dangerous acts not just for himself but fellow rider's. I have never seen Pedersen, Woffinden, Crump etc attempt to be as stupid as that ever. Darcy was an absolute fool last night and almost the whole stadium let him know what they thought. A professional sportsman acting totally unprofessional and a huge Darcy Ward's a banker song was sung and boos every time he was seen or mentioned. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 What actions? When he retired due to the red light incident he was soon on the centre and out of the way. When an over-enthusiastic cameraman shoved a camera towards him after that incident in the pits, he was obviously fuming with rage that he'd been fooled by a bogus red light and thus let his side down and ANY rider would've felt the same surely? There've been similar reactions on TV over the years too - Tai and Jason Crump are two that I remember. They're only human and and are obviously wound up at the time so its stupid for the media to be anywhere near them in times of stress and only have themselves to blame for adverse reactions like pushing cameras or swearing. I don't know your allegiances but maybe if it wasn't a Poole rider, or a Brit reacting in the same way last night you wouldn't have said a word ? If he was soon on the centre and out of the way why was the race stopped! Because he had stopped his bike sideways on the home straight and only moved when the red lights came on. What excuse have you got for him walking across the track to the pit gate when the race was going on earlier then. I'm an Ipswich fan by the way and couldn't give a toss if he is a Poole rider, Ipswich rider or a Brit. He was in the wrong. Where did I bring up about the camera incident, never, it was about his actions on the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 I am going to contradict myself here on the Darcy thing,I think he enjoys the camera in front of him when he's winning so must also expect the camera to be there when he is losing under whatever circumstances.He's just got to live with it.On the other hand incidents like this really get the crowd going and is great for the atmosphere of the meeting.More incidents like this in may bring some fans back who knows. A friend of mine came for the first time and he loved that sort of thing it just gave him an excuse to boo the Aussies,and the time it looked like Woodward gave a hand gesture to the crowd.So while I think it's stupid I also think it's brilliant 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Contrary to the majority on here, I thoroughly enjoyed the meeting last night and was well pleased with the spectacle than was put on. Remembering it was being beamed all over Europe, I thought the people who worked to put the show on did a wonderful job. Went early, but couldn't believe the queues when we arrived at 4.30. They were nearly into St Germans. It seemed everyone had a similar idea. There were no hassle. we got a good vantage point and thoroughly enjoyed the atmosphere and the banter. The weather was good, the crowd was boisterous and the racing was fast and furious. The track consistence and safe. People on here have moaned about the racing, but to me it was OK. When you have big meetings with big riders, on fast bikes, you don't see many classic races . 2, 3, possibly 5 if your lucky. These class of riders don't make many mistakes The racing was fast, close and exciting, but the noise and atmosphere made it even better. I always raved about the Wembley finals, but then there were only a few races that was memorable. the rest were boring strung out affairs from the gate. It was the occasion that made it better than it was. So when looking back to last night . I was well pleased I made the effort to attend, unlike some who could be bothered. To all those who worked hard to make last night possible , I say well done . It showed the world , we can organise and promote a decent meeting with a big crowd. England winning was the icing on the cake. Why when there is a poor speedway meeting on the TV at world championship level do people come on here justifying it because "Wembley finals were not that good" Forget Wembley this is Kings Lynn the best track in the Elite league with the one of the best track curators.On a perfect night of weather in front of a large crowd they could not prepare a track anywhere near worthy of the occasion,in previous years this event at Kings Lynn has been fantastic, this year not,I'd prefer to ask the question why ? rather than bang on about Wembley finals which were over 30 years ago ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 'They could not prepare a track anywhere near worthy of the occasion'. Not really sure its the prep itself which is the problem, it is always smooth and consistent with grip. The type of shale used hasn't changed to my knowledge but perhaps its time it was. I think riders get too spread out nowadays due to Lynn's long straights, not sure what other reasons there could be though as nothing has really altered and two or three years ago the racing was very good in the SWC & EL. Seems too easy for the leader of races to find a fast line and the guy behind getting sprayed with heavy muck does not help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 REPEAT what I said earlier ... don't think there was anything wrong with the track. Have you never seen a poor soccer game on the pristine pitches they now play on? Or a poor cricket test on a perfect pitch? Some times it is the performers rather than the stage... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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