Workington V Sheffield 27/07/14 15:00 Hrs (pl)

[spin king]

Yes they employ the medical team but its the medical's teams responsibilty surely to have correct medical kit , like I've said its a riders responsibility to bring his bike to ride on, not the promotions. To be clear this incident hasn't happened before at Workington. When Kyle Howarth sustained his ankle injury the ambulance took him to hospital as he had been given morphine on track, and with a wait of 66 minutes for another county ambulance to come and replace it , due to the curfew and the sitting around for fans the meeting was abandoned.

 

Receiving a fine ,mmmm I wonder if Berwick did for the abandonment of their meeting due to a Doctor "leaving " the ground

 

I'm not comparing anything to rain off !! Spin king suggested that Workington hadn't wanted the meeting on in the first place and was this some sort of conspiracy theory to which I have replied , if Workington wanted it called off they could have looked at the weather forecast which said rain to come in around 3pm .

Okay i stand corrected, I was under the impression that this kind of incident happen before clearly it is a differing situation.

 

Lesson to be learnt for all Promotion after this kind of incident.

[Halifaxtiger]

Yes they employ the medical team but its the medical's teams responsibilty surely to have correct medical kit

 

I'm not comparing anything to rain off !! Spin king suggested that Workington hadn't wanted the meeting on in the first place and was this some sort of conspiracy theory to which I have replied , if Workington wanted it called off they could have looked at the weather forecast which said rain to come in around 3pm .

 

Cyclone said that and he's right.

 

I have made no secret of my belief that the new promotion have really pulled the Comets up by the boot straps after the Denham era.

 

But what you can't do (unless you are a politician, that is) is give all the credit to the promotion for that and then when something goes wrong blame an employee, and an employee who was very new to his job at that.

 

They are either responsible for Workington Speedway or they aren't.

 

You did mention rain off at Somerset in your original post and pointing to what other tracks have done is absolutely no defence as to what has happened here.

Edited July 28, 2014 by Halifaxtiger

[The Third Man]

Because he isn't the regular Doctor or ambulance team that we usually have , it had been sent as a stand in , so a failure in communication to him as to what was required for a speedway meeting, which surely should have came from the medical team

 

Why the medical team?

 

i am a trainer for my sins, when i am going to a place i dont know i expect them to tell me what equipment i need at their venue, i do not just turn up and expect to have the right equipment, neither would i take responsibility if someone didnt tellme when i needed something different, and i didnt turn up with it and that led to the course being cancelled.

 

i admit the communication needs to be two way, but unless i am told, i might not know what i have to ask for

[frankie]

 

then the question is why wasnt the doctor informed of the equipment he required, and although he might only turn up 30 mins before hand, he must have checked his equipment before he set off, so once again why didnt he know what was required?

A well-known army saying would seem to apply here. "Preparation and planning prevents p*** poor performance"

[comet49]

Wouldn't you think a doctor going to a motorsport meeting would know what was required, pain back, head injuries etc? I think Laura was right to refund the fans, weather's one thing but no medical kit, that's something else. It's been put on the Comets unofficial site that the stadium kit was away with the rugby team who had a fixture in Wales yesterday. Perhaps the doctor doen't always carry a kit if there's normally one at the stadium, perhaps the promotion didn't realise that the stadium kit went to away matches. There's obviously been a lack of communication somewhere, I just hope that lessons are learned and people get over it, no fans anywhere want to see teams going out of the league.

Edited July 28, 2014 by comet49

[scaramanga]

Wouldn't you think a doctor going to a motorsport meeting would know what was required, pain back, head injuries etc? I think Laura was right to refund the fans, weather's one thing but no medical kit, that's something else. It's been put on the Comets unofficial site that the stadium kit was away with the rugby team who had a fixture in Wales yesterday. Perhaps the doctor doen't always carry a kit if there's normally one at the stadium, perhaps the promotion didn't realise that the stadium kit went to away matches. There's obviously been a lack of communication somewhere, I just hope that lessons are learned and people get over it, no fans anywhere want to see teams going out of the league.

so you are saying that a doctor who lets say is a eye specalist would also know everything required to be a brain surgeon

motorsports and other areas are totaly different and if youve never been involved before you may not know what is required

and after all the kit required could have been something that is specific to speedway

[frankie]

Back to preparation and planning again.

[comet49]

so you are saying that a doctor who lets say is a eye specalist would also know everything required to be a brain surgeonmotorsports and other areas are totaly different and if youve never been involved before you may not know what is requiredand after all the kit required could have been something that is specific to speedway

 

ok fair enough the kit may be specific to speedway but I don't think you'd be seeing an eye specialist there. There's a better explanation in tonights Star. Typically today has been nice and sunny.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

ok fair enough the kit may be specific to speedway but I don't think you'd be seeing an eye specialist there. There's a better explanation in tonights Star. Typically today has been nice and sunny.

if the kit is specific to speedway why would the rubgy club take it on tour?

That angle looks a red herring to me.

[Chris Hutcheson]

I may be a cynic, not really one for conspiracy theories but it seems the Worky promotion have cottoned on to a sneaky way of cancelling meetings. Not good enough.

[comet49]

if the kit is specific to speedway why would the rubgy club take it on tour?That angle looks a red herring to me.

I'd forgotten about that..

[jenga]

I may be a cynic, not really one for conspiracy theories but it seems the Worky promotion have cottoned on to a sneaky way of cancelling meetings. Not good enough.

 

 

were you pi55ed when you wrote that. i hope for your sake , you were.

[Taylorj]

I may be a cynic, not really one for conspiracy theories but it seems the Worky promotion have cottoned on to a sneaky way of cancelling meetings. Not good enough.

Shut Up you goon

[Arson fire]

Shut Up you goon

if you're gonna give it out Julie, be big enough to take it .. Can't blame folk for thinking you're club is taking the hit and miss a bit.

[Hel'n'Back]

Well I just feel sorry for all the fans that attended, the money that away supporters spent to get there, bet they don't bother with the re-run, a big fine may be?

Edited July 28, 2014 by Hel'n'Back

[orderly]

so you are saying that a doctor who lets say is a eye specialist would also know everything required to be a brain surgeon

motorsports and other areas are totally different and if you've never been involved before you may not know what is required

and after all the kit required could have been something that is specific to speedway

Any Doctor attending a speedway event must be British Association for Immediate Care trained (BASICs) all Doctors from GP's to Brain Surgeons require this qualification to attend any motor sport event, so the excuse that he had never attended a speedway meeting will not hold water, if he was correctly trained then he would know what equipment would be required

Edited July 29, 2014 by starshooter

[Lord Lucan]

Well I just feel sorry for all the fans that attended, the money that away supporters spent to get there, bet they don't bother with the re-run, a big fine may be?

 

Considering that we have now lost both matches v Sheffield at DP for one reason or another I would suggest that when Sheff come back for the restaging of match 1 on Sept 13th it will become a double header with match 2?

We are so far behind where we should be in the PL I cant see there being too much option, it would also make more sense!!

[Halifaxtiger]

if you're gonna give it out Julie, be big enough to take it .. Can't blame folk for thinking you're club is taking the hit and miss a bit.

 

I'd say he asked for that.

 

Workington have ridden just 5 matches at home in the PL and we are into August next weekend.

 

Why call a match off because of a piece of medical equipment (with all the adverse reaction that would get) when you need every fixture and could call it off anyway because of the weather ?

 

True, what happened isn't good. But to suggest it is some sort of conspiracy is nonsense.

[Chris Hutcheson]

 

I'd say he asked for that.

 

Workington have ridden just 5 matches at home in the PL and we are into August next weekend.

 

Why call a match off because of a piece of medical equipment (with all the adverse reaction that would get) when you need every fixture and could call it off anyway because of the weather ?

 

True, what happened isn't good. But to suggest it is some sort of conspiracy is nonsense.

I would say it's nonsense that a "promotion" would allow two meetings to be called off/abandoned in one season due to medical reasons. Neither were spectacular situations where you could understand/warrant call-off's. You can blame whoever you want, but for myself and any other travelling fan(I would imagine) would say the buck stops with the "promotion".

The p*** taking of speedway fans has to stop ASAP. The sport is struggling, treating the people who always have their hand in their pockets is not the way to go!

 

P.S good to know if I don't agree with somebody's point of view I can just resort to name calling.

Edited July 29, 2014 by DaleDiver

[Halifaxtiger]

I would say it's nonsense that a "promotion" would allow two meetings to be called off/abandoned in one season due to medical reasons. Neither were spectacular situations where you could understand/warrant call-off's. You can blame whoever you want, but for myself and any other travelling fan(I would imagine) would say the buck stops with the "promotion".

The p*** taking of speedway fans has to stop ASAP. The sport is struggling, treating the people who always have their hand in their pockets is not the way to go!

 

P.S good to know if I don't agree with somebody's point of view I can just resort to name calling.

 

The calling off of both meetings was completely warranted because this is/was a matter of rider safety, and that comes first every time.

 

What is true is that it shouldn't have happened (this time for sure, last time was different) and I completely agree that the responsibility must lie with the promotion - indeed, I have said so at least twice on this thread.

 

What I do not accept - and what you have suggested - is that this was some sort of deliberate, planned action by the Workington promotion to call the match off. That's just rubbish.

 

Incompetence - yes. Conspiracy - no.

 

I don't agree with personal abuse and never use it. Sometimes, however, I think that posts are so ridiculous that the person making them asks for it.

Edited July 29, 2014 by Halifaxtiger