maddogfiorahavelock Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 no thread yet soi thought id jump in and say a bears win, as long as they start the meeting well, hopefully no TR needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clambo71 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 can someone please explain to me why Thomas Jorgensen never gets a run out in heat 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 I'll second that......seems strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Blew both his engines i think, although would still have put him out on borrowed machinery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clambo71 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Blew both his engines i think, although would still have put him out on borrowed machinery yes.have found out he was having bike problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Even so surely you'd stick him on somebody else's machine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider Replacement Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Dreadful referee last night, Thomas didn't move yet gets pulled back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Dreadful referee last night, Thomas didn't move yet gets pulled back. He clearly jumped in 1 heat - not sure about the rest. Although he should surely have been excluded in one heat as well. Was warned in the first running, then got called back in the next re-run for him jumping but not excluded? He was excellent value last night though - enjoyed watching him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clambo71 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 He clearly jumped in 1 heat - not sure about the rest. Although he should surely have been excluded in one heat as well. Was warned in the first running, then got called back in the next re-run for him jumping but not excluded? He was excellent value last night though - enjoyed watching him. I know where your coming from as per rules but the rule is daft. As long as a rider does not touch or break the tapes in my book that is a brilliant start . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 He clearly jumped in 1 heat - not sure about the rest. Although he should surely have been excluded in one heat as well. Was warned in the first running, then got called back in the next re-run for him jumping but not excluded? He was excellent value last night though - enjoyed watching him. Obviously Thomas seems to have a problem with the start rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) Obviously Thomas seems to have a problem with the start rules. Or maybe he's an excellent starter, who doesn't actually move early, and therefore the refs should let the races go? All the best Rob Edited July 25, 2014 by lucifer sam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider Replacement Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Heat 1? I'm pretty sure that was Klindt that moved? As for Thomas, watch his reactions they are lighting fast, the reaction time is 0.5 of a second as measured by sports analysist @Loughborough university, but of course they could be wrong too, of which I doubt. And by now I'm pretty sure this sport would benefit from transponders, but as it's a loss loser I'm sure SCB won't let the sport move forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 I know where your coming from as per rules but the rule is daft. As long as a rider does not touch or break the tapes in my book that is a brilliant start . Totally agree with this - would cut down on a lot of restarts like we had last night as well. But if the rules are there they should be applied consistently. Heat 1? I'm pretty sure that was Klindt that moved? As for Thomas, watch his reactions they are lighting fast, the reaction time is 0.5 of a second as measured by sports analysist @Loughborough university, but of course they could be wrong too, of which I doubt. And by now I'm pretty sure this sport would benefit from transponders, but as it's a loss loser I'm sure SCB won't let the sport move forward. I did say in 1 heat, not heat 1. To be quite honest that is possibly true though, he could have excellent reactions. From the naked eye he appeared to get a flyer and that is the issue with the rules as they currently are. As above, should just change the rules as long as the tapes aren't broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Dreadful referee last night, Thomas didn't move yet gets pulled back. I stand on the start line and I can confirm, that he most definitely jumped in the first running of heat 2 and also in another heat with Hugh Skidmore in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clambo71 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 I stand on the start line and I can confirm, that he most definitely jumped in the first running of heat 2 and also in another heat with Hugh Skidmore in it. what is your definition of a jump.Mine is moving before the tapes go up and you touch or break the tapes otherwise its brilliant reflexes and a great start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH M Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 what is your definition of a jump. Mine has nothing to do with speedway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Or maybe he's an excellent starter, who doesn't actually move early, and therefore the refs should let the races go? All the best Rob That wasn't shown on his last two visits to Brough. Had difficulty knowing where to park his bike as well. what is your definition of a jump.Mine is moving before the tapes go up and you touch or break the tapes otherwise its brilliant reflexes and a great start. Brilliant reflexes in athletics starts gets automatic exclusions on the basis of jumping the gun. Are the rules always wrong when it involves your own rider, who knows or should know the current rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 what is your definition of a jump.Mine is moving before the tapes go up and you touch or break the tapes otherwise its brilliant reflexes and a great start. My definition is movement before the tapes go up and the only relevance, to touching the tapes, is you get disqualified for that. Any movement before the tapes go up is illegal. Mind you, you could always rewrite the rule book to your ideology. Mine has nothing to do with speedway PMSL, Good luck to the lad if he is doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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