ch958 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 On just about every thread the topic expands to encompass "all the things wrong"with the game We see paragraph after paragraph of ideas, complaints, wishes, etc Why not post 3 things which you would like to see and maybe the powers that be might listen My three penny worth: One league at pl standard Much much cheaper machinery No daft it's a knockout tr rules 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Chris Harris to ride only for Poole free biscuits topless programme sellers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 1) Get rid of Double points joke rule. 2) Promoters to actually promote the sport. 3) Last and most important - topless start line girls. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) Come on guys... this is a serious subject. Would you make jokes while sitting round your grannies bed, waiting for her to pop her clogs? Have a bit of respect for our hailing sport. Serious thoughts only, please. No more jokes about promoters actually promoting; and the suggestion of no more It's A KnockOut rules is out of the question. I support the promoters all the way, even defend them... I'll bet, at the time, that whacky-backy stuff round the conference table doesn't half make them ideas seem brilliant. Edited July 23, 2014 by moxey63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Come on guys... this is a serious subject. Would you make jokes while sitting round your grannies bed, waiting for her to pop her clogs? Have a bit of respect for our hailing sport. Serious thoughts only, please. No more jokes about promoters actually promoting; and the suggestion of no more It's A KnockOut rules is out of the question. I support the promoters all the way, even defend them... I'll bet, at the time, that whacky-backy stuff round the conference table doesn't half make them ideas seem brilliant. Hailing sport ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 One standard bike, with factory sealed engine,s Better track sufaces, that gives better riding and more spectator enjoyment One league, split North and South, and more help to bring on the young British riders Also as an extra the reserve riders should be picked much fairer than they have this year, quite a few of them are well above the standard to be in the reserve berth and should have been in the main team, it has not done anything at all to help the young riders along when they are riding against riders that should never have benn given a place as reserve. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondsRock Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 (1) Reduce the fixtures and run the season May - Sept. Run the league fixtures once and you'll half the current losses, decrease the amount of fixtures and you may increase the demand of fans who attend them. (2) Six man teams -- refresh the concept. (3) Loyalty perks, e.g. reduced entry for season ticket holders at different tracks, and reduced admission to encourage more to attend. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted July 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 The one thing this post has told me is that there are plenty who will moan but not many willing to offer ideas Thanks to those who did topless girls included Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) The one thing this post has told me is that there are plenty who will moan but not many willing to offer ideas Thanks to those who did topless girls included Are you mad? Have you never 'read' threads here. There are hundreds of excellent ideas from fans on this place. Every year since I have been a member I have seen thread after thread of ideas how to make speedway better but all we ever see are the same tired old fiddling's from a bunch of blinkered idiots so why should we the fans have to solve speedways problems? The idiots in charge should read this place and implement the cornucopia of ideas put forward from fans but to them fans are the enemy and the only real ideas they have involve giving less for more every year. I am an old man and have seen plenty of speedway but nowadays prefer to travel the world and watch heavy rock and metal so you are not gonna get me back but there are plenty of kids out there would love this sport if it was tailored to their expectations. Standing around in a dull dilapidated rubbish tip waiting for something to happen is no longer my idea of a good night out and I am sure that applies to most of the population. So the answer is really quite simple stop what it is you are doing and do something else and make it a more exciting experience and both cheaper and more VFM. But nobody who matters ever listens so the sport will have a thread like this in a years time asking the same questions whilst forgetting the answers are already here courtesy of the fans of the sport both paying customer and people like me who have done our bit but would still love to see the sport flourishing again We see paragraph after paragraph of ideas, complaints, wishes, etc This contradicts your last post Edited July 24, 2014 by pandorum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) (1) Reduce the fixtures and run the season May - Sept. Run the league fixtures once and you'll half the current losses, decrease the amount of fixtures and you may increase the demand of fans who attend them. (2) Six man teams -- refresh the concept. (3) Loyalty perks, e.g. reduced entry for season ticket holders at different tracks, and reduced admission to encourage more to attend. Agree a shorter season , no double points rule, less double upper/downers, oh and slick meetings if possible!! Neil Middleditch declared in todays Star that the draft rider system is flawed and the NL should feed the PL and the PL should feed the EL.........whoosh!!! Edited July 24, 2014 by topaz325 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted July 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Are you mad? Have you never 'read' threads here. There are hundreds of excellent ideas from fans on this place. Every year since I have been a member I have seen thread after thread of ideas how to make speedway better but all we ever see are the same tired old fiddling's from a bunch of blinkered idiots so why should we the fans have to solve speedways problems? The idiots in charge should read this place and implement the cornucopia of ideas put forward from fans but to them fans are the enemy and the only real ideas they have involve giving less for more every year. I am an old man and have seen plenty of speedway but nowadays prefer to travel the world and watch heavy rock and metal so you are not gonna get me back but there are plenty of kids out there would love this sport if it was tailored to their expectations. Standing around in a dull dilapidated rubbish tip waiting for something to happen is no longer my idea of a good night out and I am sure that applies to most of the population. So the answer is really quite simple stop what it is you are doing and do something else and make it a more exciting experience and both cheaper and more VFM. But nobody who matters ever listens so the sport will have a thread like this in a years time asking the same questions whilst forgetting the answers are already here courtesy of the fans of the sport both paying customer and people like me who have done our bit but would still love to see the sport flourishing again This contradicts your last post Yes I'm mad Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Yes I'm mad Cheers Well that explains the thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 The BSPA way of thinking is everything in the sport is rosy but the fans are just not coming to watch,that is nothing do do with them!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Agree a shorter season , no double points rule, less double upper/downers, oh and slick meetings if possible!! Neil Middleditch declared in todays Star that the draft rider system is flawed and the NL should feed the PL and the PL should feed the EL.........whoosh!!! But NOT slicker Tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted July 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Well that explains the thread I just thought if there could be a number of repeat ideas that came up in one place somebody in power might see it and think on Back to the beer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjsj9803 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 i would like to see the ref not having to exclude after the first bend. The Golden helmet match races return. And maybe the rides not all returning to the pits after a stoppage that has creeped in recent seasons. Nothing special I know but i do miss second halves & the golden helmet matches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Golden Helmet in original format, not like the time it was over- done by defending it every match.. loyalty card a great idea which someone mentioned.. end the sharing of riders discount for away fans arriving by coach (as that can be proved) to help with costs pannini style sticker book for kids.. billboards advertising in town centres heres a big contraversial one, Proper promotion/relegation programmes bring back full page pics with a autograph oppertunity for kids meetings need to have an "event" feel to them presenters who can build the tension 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 The BSPA way of thinking is everything in the sport is rosy but the fans are just not coming to watch,that is nothing do do with them!!!!!!! sadly you are correct... you can just imagine this fortnights excuse for those fans staying away?? 'people are staying in watching the commonwealth games'...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) Golden Helmet in original format, not like the time it was over- done by defending it every match.. loyalty card a great idea which someone mentioned.. end the sharing of riders discount for away fans arriving by coach (as that can be proved) to help with costs pannini style sticker book for kids.. billboards advertising in town centres heres a big contraversial one, Proper promotion/relegation programmes bring back full page pics with a autograph oppertunity for kids meetings need to have an "event" feel to them presenters who can build the tension Picking up on some of those points: Agree about the Golden/Silver Helmet. Once a month defended against the the rider with the highest average at the end of the month (i.e The riders average for that month only, not rolling average etc.). Newcastle had a billboard near St James' Park footy ground (which is also next to a Metro Startion), not sure that brought in many extra punters. The cost of that could be prohibitive to some clubs, though. Proper promotion/relegation won't work, simply due to the financial clout of going up. If Birmingham, Peterborough and Ipswich couldn't hack the EL (and Eastbourne are said to be in trouble), what chance many PL teams lasting? I'm not too fussed about a Prog. to be honest. I'll buy one, but if it's just a race card (like Somerset and Sheffield used to do), then that's fine too. Don't quite agree with the Scunthorpe £1 for two A4 pages stapled together, though. Either give it away free, or do it properly and charge £2/£2.50. Finally, totally agree about the 'event.' Clubs are basically wanting people to turn up, see 15 heats of speedway and go home. There is nothing else to turn up for (apart from seeing mates etc.). Speedway is dying on it's a*se. It needs to re-invent itself. Go back to basics. Cut costs. Lower admission prices. Make it special. Then it might have a chance of survival, otherwise it will die. Edited July 25, 2014 by Steve Park 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 1./ A one to 9 squad for every team, with the last three riders being british sharing the meetings no problems then with double uppers. 2./ Get rid of the Micky mouse joker rule. 3./A reduction every now and then for regular supporters maybe a voucher system, a free pint ? or something from the track shop cheaper?.A good way of showing that the club appreciates the home diehard supporter. 4./ Regular dialogue and discussion at every club (ie at Scunny Godfrey suggested it) because there are endless people who have suggested some great ideas on this forum as an example. 5./ Stop the EL against PL squabble,work together for the good of the sport. 6./ More modern music. 7./A seven thirty start,means a prompt start and finish. 8./The fifteen heat formula needs to be tinkered with. 9./Be great to have a regular golden helmet match race back. 10./Go back to the old race format, as an ex heat 5 no 5/4 against 1/2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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