screm Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 Bit of a clever move here by the Berwick promotion to double up this fixture with the Newcastle match, so that all the Newcastle fans end up paying extra to compensate them for the Rye House fans who would never show up anyway if the match was on a different night... A slightly wonky way of looking at things, I mean its hardly likely that if this was a one off date with Rye House Shielfield Park would be chocka block with fans of the Rockets. Berwick are trying to get their fixtures in by the cut off date, I`m sure that a double header was last of the alternatives, given the losses they are likely to suffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 It amazes me that people think he is pulling up trees in the EL even. Lets have a look at the riders who he has actually beaten in the EL this season other than his team mates and his fellow draft riders, most of those he should be beating anyway considering he was one of the highest graded. Nicolai Klindt - PL 6/7 point man, on par with Garrity. Richard Lawson (2 times) - PL 8 point man, where Garrity should be this season anyway. Dakota North (2 times) - PL 6/7 pointer. North was a non finisher when Garrity beat him at Coventry 9/5. Simon Gustafsson - EL 6 pointer. Ty Proctor (2 times) - Riding pants this season, his PL average shows that. Garrity should be beating him. Nico Covatti - PL 6/7 pointer. Richie Worrall - Having a poor season, Garrity should be on par with him. Michael Palm Toft - PL 5 pointer. Scott Nicholls - Beat him guesting for Birmingham at Belle Vue. Jacob Thorssell - EL 6 pointer. Ricky Wells - PL 6/7 pointer. Nick Morris - Morris was excluded when Garrity beat him on 18/8 That's 12 , a majority of whom Garrity is on par with. Not exactly setting the world alight. This shows he's picking up the majority of his points from NL riders. Apologies from swerving off the actual thread topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 Looking forward to the first double-header in a long time. A speedway feast! Does that mean 2 PIES?Might take a walk round to the third bend on Saturday night seeing we are doing a double header. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 Does that mean 2 PIES?Might take a walk round to the third bend on Saturday night seeing we are doing a double header. Aye, maybe even 2 burgers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 It amazes me that people think he is pulling up trees in the EL even. Lets have a look at the riders who he has actually beaten in the EL this season other than his team mates and his fellow draft riders, most of those he should be beating anyway considering he was one of the highest graded. Nicolai Klindt - PL 6/7 point man, on par with Garrity. Richard Lawson (2 times) - PL 8 point man, where Garrity should be this season anyway. Dakota North (2 times) - PL 6/7 pointer. North was a non finisher when Garrity beat him at Coventry 9/5. Simon Gustafsson - EL 6 pointer. Ty Proctor (2 times) - Riding pants this season, his PL average shows that. Garrity should be beating him. Nico Covatti - PL 6/7 pointer. Richie Worrall - Having a poor season, Garrity should be on par with him. Michael Palm Toft - PL 5 pointer. Scott Nicholls - Beat him guesting for Birmingham at Belle Vue. Jacob Thorssell - EL 6 pointer. Ricky Wells - PL 6/7 pointer. Nick Morris - Morris was excluded when Garrity beat him on 18/8 That's 12 , a majority of whom Garrity is on par with. Not exactly setting the world alight. This shows he's picking up the majority of his points from NL riders. Apologies from swerving off the actual thread topic. Good Post ,I had that impression as well 8-9 of his points are against riders that would struggle to score in PL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 It amazes me that people think he is pulling up trees in the EL even. Lets have a look at the riders who he has actually beaten in the EL this season other than his team mates and his fellow draft riders, most of those he should be beating anyway considering he was one of the highest graded. Nicolai Klindt - PL 6/7 point man, on par with Garrity. Richard Lawson (2 times) - PL 8 point man, where Garrity should be this season anyway. Dakota North (2 times) - PL 6/7 pointer. North was a non finisher when Garrity beat him at Coventry 9/5. Simon Gustafsson - EL 6 pointer. Ty Proctor (2 times) - Riding pants this season, his PL average shows that. Garrity should be beating him. Nico Covatti - PL 6/7 pointer. Richie Worrall - Having a poor season, Garrity should be on par with him. Michael Palm Toft - PL 5 pointer. Scott Nicholls - Beat him guesting for Birmingham at Belle Vue. Jacob Thorssell - EL 6 pointer. Ricky Wells - PL 6/7 pointer. Nick Morris - Morris was excluded when Garrity beat him on 18/8 That's 12 , a majority of whom Garrity is on par with. Not exactly setting the world alight. This shows he's picking up the majority of his points from NL riders. Apologies from swerving off the actual thread topic. Of that list who do you thing that Garrity is on a par with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 Of that list who do you thing that Garrity is on a par with.Procter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 Procter! Agreed but the poster said the majority, that's seven at least and to be honest I`m struggling to get a majority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 Agreed but the poster said the majority, that's seven at least and to be honest I`m struggling to get a majority.Personaly I think Garrity is well overrated ,a crash waiting to happen. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 Can't see what the fuss is about with Garrity. Awful, horrible crunched over style on the bike and very much a white line rider. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 Can't see what the fuss is about with Garrity. Awful, horrible crunched over style on the bike and very much a white line rider. He's English, they're desperate to have another Golden Boy, Tai can't do it on his own now we know Cook is just a flat track bully. Unfortunately Garrity hasn't got the backing or the right people around him to make it big in the sport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 Forecast tomorrow is for a dry morning, the afternoon will be mostly dry but there will be scattered showers about from late afternoon onwards but if the luck is with us the majority of them will miss Berwick. Its going to be chilly so it might be time to dust off that old Berwick hat and scarf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 Of that list who do you thing that Garrity is on a par with. Being generous in saying Klindt. The progress he has made so far since he joined Rye House would have carried on this season IMO if he'd just been riding for us and he would be a 7/8 pointer in this division but he's had his head turned by taking pocket money off of NL riders in the "EL" this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 (edited) Being generous in saying Klindt. The progress he has made so far since he joined Rye House would have carried on this season IMO if he'd just been riding for us and he would be a 7/8 pointer in this division but he's had his head turned by taking pocket money off of NL riders in the "EL" this year.Agree with you to some extent, but you're not going to progress riding once a week. That's where we have suffered this year. Apart from the odd guest ride, most of our side are riding exclusively for the Rockets. Edward, Luke, Steve & Bunny all have full time jobs/businesses outside of speedway. It's really just a hobby for them. At least Garrity is getting on the track more often, albeit against mostly inferior opposition. Edited August 22, 2014 by Shadders 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 Agree with you to some extent, but you're not going to progress riding once a week. That's where we have suffered this year. Apart from the odd guest ride, most of our side are riding exclusively for the Rockets. Edward, Luke, Steve & Bunny all have full time jobs/businesses outside of speedway. It's really just a hobby for them. At least Garrity is getting on the track more often, albeit against mostly inferior opposition. The Riders realise that the Sport is just about finished in the UK, so it's really just a good way of earning some spending money, they now treat the sport with the same attitude that the promoters treat them, picking and choosing Meetings, looking at a track and deciding it's just not worth the risks involved, the Promoters have brought it on themselves, it's a shame but life moves on, Speedway and the Cinema in the high street were the places to go once upon a time, but those times have long since gone, the Cinemas moved into the 21st century with multi point complexes etc, and have survived, Speedway has brought in Fast track, pmsl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 Why the hell at Rye House not just using a Newcastle rider as a guest? Surely there no better way of saving costs?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMYAMBANDIT Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 Why the hell at Rye House not just using a Newcastle rider as a guest? Surely there no better way of saving costs?! If Newcastle were racing 1st yes, but why risk their machinery for another team, when they are racing later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 Why the hell at Rye House not just using a Newcastle rider as a guest? Surely there no better way of saving costs?! Possibly because, if they got injured in the first match guesting for Rye House, it would mean Newcastle would be stuffed for the second match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 Why the hell at Rye House not just using a Newcastle rider as a guest? Surely there no better way of saving costs?!I've seen it a few times when the guest has already been in the first half of the meeting. Never this way round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 I've seen it a few times when the guest has already been in the first half of the meeting. Never this way round Bv vs Lakeside/Eastbourne. Both away teams had a reserve missing so they used the other teams reserve as a guest - or planned to until it rained. The other way to look at it is the Newcastle rider would have had track time to get his bike set up. As for needing guests, Rye House have a few riders! Unless it was a real apocalypse and all of Rye Houses riders got injured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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