dabbsjoe Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 Second string scores same as heat leaders combined. not hard to spot where the problem is but CVS has been trying to work out what it is for weeks now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sweetman Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 Second string scores same as heat leaders combined. not hard to spot where the problem is but CVS has been trying to work out what it is for weeks now And dont forget his side kick Joe.After all ,he is supposed to be the master tactician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 Second string scores same as heat leaders combined. not hard to spot where the problem is but CVS has been trying to work out what it is for weeks now What is the problem then and your solution? If its to drop Lindgren, that's not going to help one iota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted July 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 On balance, having thought about it, probably nothing to do but look forward to next season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 The bigger issue is the performance of the fast trackers. Lewis Blackbird was expected to dominate and he hasn't really done that, not to the level of someone such as Garrity. Musielak got injured just as he was beginning to settle, it's caused him to lose his ride in Poland too which won't help his confidence. However, he's one you need to persevere with for the long term. Lindgren is obviously struggling, going through a similar situation to Woffinden last year, only worse. The format is so unforgiving that a poor run of form can be hard to break out of. However, what would replacing him achieve? Nobody better would be available. May as well keep him. If his poor run continues he could be a bargain second string for next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbsjoe Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 What is the problem then and your solution? If its to drop Lindgren, that's not going to help one iota. that's the problem with the team we've built. There is nobody out there to replace Lindgren as poor as he is at the moment that wants to ride in UK. PK and Ricky are solid scorers for us, so no issue there. dropping Tobiasz defeats the whole point of signing him in the first place, better to stick with him that way we have an asset that is happy to come back in the future. Jacob's average at start of the season I believe was a mistake to sign him on as it restricted us in other signings we could have made. he's done nothing to prove this theory wrong although he appears to be putting more points on board now. But if drop him you have to drop someone else as one change in second string isn't going to turn this team around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 Agree with everything you say there. Like you, I said the signing of Thorssell was a mistake at the start of the season and they sycophants went crazy.. "Next No 1" blah blah. I like Jacob, but building teams is all about getting riders on the right average in the right position and he didn't fit that bill under this system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnificentseven Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 There is no doubt that we are in a big mess. At the moment only Wells and PK deserve their place in the team. However there aren't any realistic replacements out there - top riders who are available just don't want to ride in Britain. Unfortunately I think we are stuck with what we have for the rest of the season. Wolfie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbsjoe Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 Agree with everything you say there. Like you, I said the signing of Thorssell was a mistake at the start of the season and they sycophants went crazy.. "Next No 1" blah blah. I like Jacob, but building teams is all about getting riders on the right average in the right position and he didn't fit that bill under this system. the next problem will come next season, we'll no doubt have Lindgren on a nice low average for his talent but we'll have Ricky on a high average (unless we can get him into a heat leader role where his scores will drop a little) but will Lindgren want to ride over here next season. Jacob shouldn't have been signed until we knew the points limit for team building. His overall average for this season is only a little bit higher than Tobiasz's average 5.05 (4.68 GSA) compared to 5.03 (4.34 GSA). these 2 started the season as heat leaders. add to this Lindgren's average for this season also 7.09 (6.36 GSA) the team we built has only performed in the second string positions and little else There is no doubt that we are in a big mess. At the moment only Wells and PK deserve their place in the team. However there aren't any realistic replacements out there - top riders who are available just don't want to ride in Britain. Unfortunately I think we are stuck with what we have for the rest of the season. Wolfie we are stuck in a vicious cycle though where the 2 riders performing this season will be saddled with unattractive averages for next season which would cause the same issues again with team building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 the next problem will come next season, we'll no doubt have Lindgren on a nice low average for his talent but we'll have Ricky on a high average (unless we can get him into a heat leader role where his scores will drop a little) but will Lindgren want to ride over here next season. Jacob shouldn't have been signed until we knew the points limit for team building. His overall average for this season is only a little bit higher than Tobiasz's average 5.05 (4.68 GSA) compared to 5.03 (4.34 GSA). these 2 started the season as heat leaders. add to this Lindgren's average for this season also 7.09 (6.36 GSA) the team we built has only performed in the second string positions and little else we are stuck in a vicious cycle though where the 2 riders performing this season will be saddled with unattractive averages for next season which would cause the same issues again with team building. For next season Thorssell is a must, Wells an absolute no. Based on current averages that is.. they may change a bit towards the end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sweetman Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 On balance, having thought about it, probably nothing to do but look forward to next season. Totally agree.This season is done and dusted,but most of us knew that before a wheel was turned. PS *********** Does anyone know who that clown is who does the interviews(podcast) with CVS.After every meeting he says to Chris(or Adams)that the next meeting is crucial and gonna be the most important of the season.Well hes been saying that for the last six weeks and it still hasnt made any difference. Next time to say that mate, is at the last meeting of the season.Because the next one will be important.It will be the first fixture of the 2016 season,and we cant afford to get it wrong again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 Ryan Guest is 'credited' with the Ricky Wells interview podcast; and Dave Rowe with the Rosco interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 Glad PK is seemingly ok after his van overturned on his way back from Swindon last night. https://www.facebook.com/88367147794/photos/a.10151712662602795.1073741832.88367147794/10153175081832795/?type=1&fref=nf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted July 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 Glad PK is seemingly ok after his van overturned on his way back from Swindon last night. https://www.facebook.com/88367147794/photos/a.10151712662602795.1073741832.88367147794/10153175081832795/?type=1&fref=nf Bloody Nora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 Having riders winning races was always going to be a problem with the team that was put together and unless you can get riders in that can do that or score away then nothing will change. Tobiasz and Jacob as second strings will do a decent job especially at home for Jacob but can you see Ricky and PK as a heat 15 partnership against Andersen and Harris or Ward and Batchelor or Holder and Janowski. Tough call and a hard job finding riders required on the night Wolves race on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dump that clutch Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 glad PK is ok after seeing the mess of his van.. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 Grzegorz Zengota could be the rider left out of the Swindon team to accommodate Darcy Ward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 Grzegorz Zengota could be the rider left out of the Swindon team to accommodate Darcy Ward Can't see it. Think Howarth looks the rider likely to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 I would have thought Howarth was more likely but Rosco seems to be pretty close to Kyle having him at Coventry Swindon and Team GB. While I like Zengota I don't think either of them would rejuvenate the fortunes of the team this season unless there was more than one change. Kildemand is now in the GP series following Hampel injury so Piotr Pawlicki (still only 20) is next in line and unlikely to want to ride here this season. Of the big names only Emil Sayfutdinov would be the signing that could be the difference but even though he is not in the GP's now he has plenty of meetings in other competitions. Artem Laguta is another and rides with Freddie but would he be available , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 I would have thought Howarth was more likely but Rosco seems to be pretty close to Kyle having him at Coventry Swindon and Team GB. While I like Zengota I don't think either of them would rejuvenate the fortunes of the team this season unless there was more than one change. Kildemand is now in the GP series following Hampel injury so Piotr Pawlicki (still only 20) is next in line and unlikely to want to ride here this season. Of the big names only Emil Sayfutdinov would be the signing that could be the difference but even though he is not in the GP's now he has plenty of meetings in other competitions. Artem Laguta is another and rides with Freddie but would he be available , Bloody hell, you would need very long arms & deep pockets for some of the riders you have mentonied! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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