Bagpuss Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) I'm only talking money re that meeting. They can crave all they like, let the guys who put themselves out to race here have the practice, perk of the job 😊 Again I fully appreciate your point but if they want as big a crowd as possible I would suggest they will get one or two riders over who aren't riding in the UK this year. Tai, Greg, Emil, Nicki etc will put bums on seats. Edited January 8, 2015 by Gordon Bennett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 In the 2014 season Pedersen's average was split as follows: Home 8.47 with bonus points/ 9.11 with bonus points Away 5.92 without bonus points / 6.31 with bonus points. This shows what a home biased rider he was, and he isn't going to get to ride at Eastbourne this year !! Those figures don't bode well for us and PK would be a far better option. Wolfie Absolutely spot on. Bjarne has been picked off at Monmore on so many occasions over the years. Even Magnus Karlsson was able to pass him and that was when Bjarne was a 9pt rider. Eastbourne is a big home track advantage, make the start, very hard to pass. Sure, he will adapt to Monmore if he signed but he won't have anywhere near the same level of advantage. As these figures show.. he's an awful signing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 It would seem that Bjarne's decision to talk about a UK deal is also linked to the Darcy Ward situation - not in England but in Sweden. Bjarne was preparing to just do Denmark Sweden (and not sure about Poland?) but has not been offered a confirmed Swedish league place!! HOWEVER, if Ward is banned further then Bjarne would take Ward's place at Piraterna, and would probably not accept a UK deal. Presumably he's not in a 'Ward-less' Poole team option, as MF wouldn't have given permission for him to talk to other clubs?! Will clubs/riders now wait longer after Darcy's hearing is further delayed to 30th!!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 In the 2014 season Pedersen's average was split as follows: Home 8.47 with bonus points/ 9.11 with bonus points Away 5.92 without bonus points / 6.31 with bonus points. This shows what a home biased rider he was, and he isn't going to get to ride at Eastbourne this year !! Those figures don't bode well for us and PK would be a far better option. Wolfie I'm beginning to fear that 2015 could be a repeat of 2014. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 The big deal is he cant ride Monmore I remember a time when Bjarne had a good record at Monmore. Been a while tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 He's a good enough rider to quickly get to grips with Monmore. He'd be a decent number 5 in any side in my book. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 He would be a better signing than karlsson for sure. Hes rode as a number one for god knows how long and is still averaging way above 7. As a second heatleader hed probably add to his figure. Karlsson is old now , people suggesting he will add a point to his average are being silly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 He would be a better signing than karlsson for sure. Hes rode as a number one for god knows how long and is still averaging way above 7. As a second heatleader hed probably add to his figure. Karlsson is old now , people suggesting he will add a point to his average are being silly Way above 7? You might want to check your facts. 7.11 is not 'way above 7'. As for Karlsson, silly to think his average might go up. After all, racing fast track riders and second strings in 50% of his races instead of racing riders such as Iversen, Ward, Zagar etc will make things much tougher for him... he'll never pick up an extra pt a meeting! To put it simply, using Kings Lynn as an example you are saying a rider racing against the following opposition Iversen/Porsing Schlein/Lambert Iversen/Schlein Iversen/K.Bjerre would not see a 1 pt increase in his average if his opponents were changed to:- Iversen/Porsing Lambert/Lewis Rose (this will actually be a weaker rider next year for Kings Lynn) Iversen/Schlein Porsing/Kerr I'll have some of what you are smoking please. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 He would be a better signing than karlsson for sure. Hes rode as a number one for god knows how long and is still averaging way above 7. As a second heatleader hed probably add to his figure. Karlsson is old now , people suggesting he will add a point to his average are being silly Pk is "old Now" that has been said for the last 5years what i like about him is he wants race in the EL every season with full commitment and not a if he is doing us a favour.Injury and machinery issues appear to have been the cause for problems last season and no one expects him to be an 8 plus rider but he will be capable of 7 plus all day long IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish keeper Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Pedersen will come in on a 7.38 and should be able to maintain that riding at 5. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted January 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Not quite sure where the Pedersen thing came from in the first place but has anyone thought it might be a case of a Chinese whisper and the guy's initial got mistranslated Incomiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Pedersen will come in on a 7.38 and should be able to maintain that riding at 5. Why would he? That is more likely to drop than increase. At Eastbourne he was their top guy, so was always better than 1 opponent in every race. That will change when he is racing with Lindgren. At Eastbourne he had a big home track advantage, that will change riding at Wolves. Not quite sure where the Pedersen thing came from in the first place but has anyone thought it might be a case of a Chinese whisper and the guy's initial got mistranslated Incomiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing haha, if only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sweetman Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Not quite sure where the Pedersen thing came from in the first place but has anyone thought it might be a case of a Chinese whisper and the guy's initial got mistranslated Incomiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing Now don't go upsetting Mr Brum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnificentseven Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Pedersen tweeted last night - Been badly let down tonight - wonder if that is something to do with Wolves? Wolfie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Pedersen tweeted last night - Been badly let down tonight - wonder if that is something to do with Wolves? Wolfie Likely he agreed to sign for us and was promised a title chasing team... he's just gone online to see who we've signed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted January 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Pedersen tweeted last night - Been badly let down tonight - wonder if that is something to do with Wolves? Wolfie Now he knows how the fans of his team feel when he rides against Poole. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Way above 7? You might want to check your facts. 7.11 is not 'way above 7'. As for Karlsson, silly to think his average might go up. After all, racing fast track riders and second strings in 50% of his races instead of racing riders such as Iversen, Ward, Zagar etc will make things much tougher for him... he'll never pick up an extra pt a meeting! To put it simply, using Kings Lynn as an example you are saying a rider racing against the following opposition Iversen/Porsing Schlein/Lambert Iversen/Schlein Iversen/K.Bjerre would not see a 1 pt increase in his average if his opponents were changed to:- Iversen/Porsing Lambert/Lewis Rose (this will actually be a weaker rider next year for Kings Lynn) Iversen/Schlein Porsing/Kerr I'll have some of what you are smoking please. Id suggest his decline last year was down to the fact hes now very old and was returning from another bad bang! How was his form in sweden?look at some of the riders he lost to when he returned to wolves. Bjarne pedersen would average more than pk all day long in next years el Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Id suggest his decline last year was down to the fact hes now very old and was returning from another bad bang! How was his form in sweden?look at some of the riders he lost to when he returned to wolves. Bjarne pedersen would average more than pk all day long in next years el That isn't the question. You said there was no chance of PK increasing his average by a pt, but I've shown you, he could actually get WORSE as a rider and still increase his average. The main issue with PK was struggling to find a setup that worked for him with the new silencers. Now they are able to use silencers akin the ones from the year before, that problem is resolved. Bjarne may average more than PK.. but it's my belief that a PK/Mads Korneliussen combo for instance would be stronger than a Bjarne Pedersen/Lasse Bjerre one. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Pedersen and Bjerre is stronger and more consistent and reliable than PK and Mads as you never know what you get from either. Lasse would along with Tobiasz be the key figures in such a team. Lasse has the beating of riders like Robson Porsing Lambert Howarth Morris Lawson Wozniak Michelsen Kennett and most reserves going by the form he was in last season while Tobiasz could be the star of the show. He is not some hot shot kid that is new to the sport and if he can show anything like the form he has in Poland he could maintain his starting average over the season. There are without doubt stronger looking teams already formed but don't under estimate the mix of youth and experience in what could be a well balanced team and surprise a few critics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Pedersen tweeted last night - Been badly let down tonight - wonder if that is something to do with Wolves? Wolfie if he was waiting on the Ward decision to know if Piraterna could give him a team place (and thus avoid having to ride in the UK), he's maybe feeling let down by the FIM for delaying the Ward hearing or by Piraterna if they chose to keep him waiting until after the 30th for their decision(or maybe peeved at both of them). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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