Wolverhampton 2015

[FAST GATER]

 

THJ would have signed up for Poole already had he been interested in a full season in Britain but he is now full time in the GP's, rides on a Tuesday (and Thursday) in Sweden and has just signed a big deal to ride at Leszno in Poland on a Sunday along with Pedersen, Sayfutdinov, Musielak and the Pawlicki brothers so Britain does not interest him one bit.

 

 

 

It seems one of PK's big problems has been the new silencers used in 2014 and he failed to get a set up that suited him right. There have been talks during the winter that may allow riders to revert back to the old silencer and if that happens, PK on 6.12 would be a bargain but on the 2014 silencer it looks a gamble.

 

 

He made it clear he has no intentions of retiring for a few years yet and still loves racing so if he gets the chance he would sign and while Lakeside suited him perfectly being near to Stanstead, Monmore Green is like a second home to him and he would jump at the chance to return and alongside Jacob and Freddie he would be the ideal captain ....... if he can still score points ?

 

 

Joonas Kylmakorpi 6.33 seems to be one rider that could be signed and is very good friends with Freddie and looking at the options, signing him to ride at #5 would at least mean Jacob Thorssell doesn't start as a heat leader and has at times shown a liking for WV2 in past seasons.

 

Maybe not the ideal signing and would leave enough for Ricky Wells (not PK) but options appear to be getting short and this could be as close to a heat leader as we are likely to get available now !!! Personally I would like to have seen Grzegorz Zengota 6.16 as a possible signing and with PK would have been solid second strings had we been forced down the path of signing two six point riders for the 12.31 remaining.

 

 

Greg Hancock 8.54 has signed up in Poland now so he looks unlikely which is a shame as along with Lukasz Sowka 3.00 they could have travelled from Polish meetings together as they are both at Rzsezow and Lukasz appears to be unlikely to get a fixed place in their team now he is no longer a reserve and under twenty one.

 

Adrian Meidzinski 8.24 has apparantley shown interest in riding over here in 2015 and has done well at Monmore Green in the past. He is virtually the same age as Freddie (a month older) so at 29 he has experience. Would he want a Monday track ?

 

 

One other option which wouldn't be my choice as I feel he is over rated by many is Martin Smolinski 7.54 who missed 2014 to concentrate on the GP's and now he is not in it for 2015 he could be a signing that may prove to be solid and consistant in backing up Freddie and of course that would allow us to get Lasse Bjerre 4.66 as the last signing.

 

 

So who would be the best combination ?

 

Miedzinski and A 4.00 (Eduard Krcmar)

Smolinski and Bjerre

Kylmakorpi and Wells

Zengota and PK

Many thanks for the PK info I have been a huge fan for many years and feel that he still has plenty in the tank , I have watched many riders go a season too long but I don't feel he is there yet .Hope he gets a ride in the EL in 2015 just like Greg he belies his age and still looks the consummate professional he has always been .

[fish keeper]

Lasse Bjerre should get the chance to come back next season even if it is with PK as he did his job last year and can only improve with a little help from Freddie and PK.

[Wolfsbane]

PK has plenty more to offer. It's where he fits into any team who employs him that's important. Without question he's not the bloke he was so a 3rd heat leader's probably his level now.

 

After what was allegedly said at the talk in I'd not blame PK if he gave Wolves the 2 finger salutation however he knows that the club is more than just the 2 clowns in charge.

[BWitcher]

PK has plenty more to offer. It's where he fits into any team who employs him that's important. Without question he's not the bloke he was so a 3rd heat leader's probably his level now.

 

After what was allegedly said at the talk in I'd not blame PK if he gave Wolves the 2 finger salutation however he knows that the club is more than just the 2 clowns in charge.

 

He would be a 2nd string for Wolves, which makes it the biggest no brainer signing in years.

 

So, very likely we won't sign him.

[INCOGNITO]

 

He would be a 2nd string for Wolves, which makes it the biggest no brainer signing in years.

 

So, very likely we won't sign him.

He may start as a second string but he is just 0.13bbehind Jacob and if Tobiasz Musielak gets a new average after 8 meetings he could easily be the second heat leader by May.

 

Would that be such a good signing then ?

 

 

He may be a club legend but it should be they either signed PK or signed a new rider and in Tobiasz Musielak they have done that and having both in the team now would leave them as cannon fodder for the likes of Poole Belle Vue and Coventry.

 

 

Although it is unlikely has anyone thought a rider like Martin Vaculik or Grigory Laguta may be feasible after difficult pay structures in other leagues may make them think about riding over here ?

[SCB]

He may start as a second string but he is just 0.13bbehind Jacob and if Tobiasz Musielak gets a new average after 8 meetings he could easily be the second heat leader by May.

 

Would that be such a good signing then ?

So if a rider is less rubbish than his team mates, he could be the problem? Surely the issue here is Thorsell and Musielak and not potentially PK.

 

PK is a no brainer signing no his average as a second string.

[FAST GATER]

So if a rider is less rubbish than his team mates, he could be the problem? Surely the issue here is Thorsell and Musielak and not potentially PK.

 

PK is a no brainer signing no his average as a second string.

I agree there is no saying Pk won't return to his former level if he sorts his bikes out , this time last year L/side had him at number 1 can't believe he won't hold his own as second heatleader .

[dabbsjoe]

the lineup we'll end up with for this season won't do anything but disappoint. very uninspiring

[BWitcher]

He may start as a second string but he is just 0.13bbehind Jacob and if Tobiasz Musielak gets a new average after 8 meetings he could easily be the second heat leader by May.

 

Would that be such a good signing then ?

 

 

He may be a club legend but it should be they either signed PK or signed a new rider and in Tobiasz Musielak they have done that and having both in the team now would leave them as cannon fodder for the likes of Poole Belle Vue and Coventry.

 

 

Although it is unlikely has anyone thought a rider like Martin Vaculik or Grigory Laguta may be feasible after difficult pay structures in other leagues may make them think about riding over here ?

 

Of course it would.

 

PK has had one bad season. That is it. It was a season that he was returning from a pretty bad injury, riding away from Wolverhampton and suffered mechanical woes... plus the new format. The combination of them all gave them the average he has.

 

However, he is still head and shoulders above Thorssell.

 

Being a 'club legend' has nothing to do with it.

 

Being a 7.5 to 8pt rider on a 6.2 average has everything to do with it.

[Falcon Hammer]

Got to take into account, PK would be one of the more expensive 2nd-strings

 

PK couldn't gate for toffee last year, was consistently woeful out of the traps, so if he can get that sorted should be fine

 

Would love to see him back next year - hopefully a farewell event also, unless he's thinking of doing another 10yrs

[ShropWolf]

Wonder when we will know the last 2 riders.

[stevebrum]

Krcmar on 4.00,Where did you get that one from.

I would say more likely to be 6 from what ive seen of him.

 

 

 

I guess it would be the same logic as Milik.

Unless he rode Swedish EL or Polish EL then it would be a 4 like Milik was.

I agree that he should be assessed higher just like milik should have been.

 

Its clear both are way to good to be even considered a 4. But the rules seem clear.

 

 

PK is a no brainer signing no his average as a second string.

 

As was hinted at at the talk in, PK struggled with set ups on 2014 silencers, so I guess the management were waiting for the ruling on the silencers this season.

With last seasons and the new ones (similar to previous ones) approved now then I think its a yes for PK.

Edited January 5, 2015 by stevebrum

[INCOGNITO]

The announcement on the silencers being allowed to be used next season certainly points towards Peter Karlsson being signed in a hope he can at least be a 7 point rider.

 

The thing is once he moves up to a heat leader status will he be able to get points especially away when up against the big guns in most heats and especially heat 13.

 

Andersen and Harris at Coventry

Iversen and Bjerre at Kings Lynn

Zagar and Nicholls at Belle Vue

Holder and Magic at Poole

 

It is hard to see him scoring much in these heats away and the importance of getting a second heat leader like Woffinden or Pawlicki was or should have been a priority.

 

Pawlicki and Woffinden would have been a respectable pairing but can't see any improvement having Freddie and a six point rider as the top two.

 

Trouble is it was said the big names will come back but apart from Freddie Holder and AJ there has been little movement while the list of riders not returning should be a warning sounded out by Tai last season.

 

 

Instead of running an Elite League Riders Championship how about a Non ELRC being held with Hancock Kasprzak Pedersen Woffinden Hampel Pawlicki Sayfutdinov Ward Janowski ? Bjarne MJJ etc etc.

Edited January 6, 2015 by INCOGNITO

[Trees]

Why would we wanna pay to see them when they don't wanna race for us?

Edited January 6, 2015 by Trees

[fish keeper]

Lets go for it and bring back Max as well as PK Im sure they both fit its going to be a long season again.

[dabbsjoe]

it'll be PK and someone who I don't think has been mentioned on here yet

[Bagpuss]

Why would we wanna pay to see them when they don't wanna race for us?

Can see your point but I think people would flock to see these riders in a one off meeting.

[BWitcher]

The announcement on the silencers being allowed to be used next season certainly points towards Peter Karlsson being signed in a hope he can at least be a 7 point rider.

 

The thing is once he moves up to a heat leader status will he be able to get points especially away when up against the big guns in most heats and especially heat 13.

 

Andersen and Harris at Coventry

Iversen and Bjerre at Kings Lynn

Zagar and Nicholls at Belle Vue

Holder and Magic at Poole

 

It is hard to see him scoring much in these heats away and the importance of getting a second heat leader like Woffinden or Pawlicki was or should have been a priority.

 

Pawlicki and Woffinden would have been a respectable pairing but can't see any improvement having Freddie and a six point rider as the top two.

 

Trouble is it was said the big names will come back but apart from Freddie Holder and AJ there has been little movement while the list of riders not returning should be a warning sounded out by Tai last season.

 

 

Instead of running an Elite League Riders Championship how about a Non ELRC being held with Hancock Kasprzak Pedersen Woffinden Hampel Pawlicki Sayfutdinov Ward Janowski ? Bjarne MJJ etc etc.

 

Nah, PK has never been able to hold his own in such heats has he.

 

PK is not the problem signing.

 

The problem signings were Thorssell and Musielak.

[SteveLyric2]

The announcement on the silencers being allowed to be used next season certainly points towards Peter Karlsson being signed in a hope he can at least be a 7 point rider.

 

The thing is once he moves up to a heat leader status will he be able to get points especially away when up against the big guns in most heats and especially heat 13.

 

Andersen and Harris at Coventry

Iversen and Bjerre at Kings Lynn

Zagar and Nicholls at Belle Vue

Holder and Magic at Poole

 

It is hard to see him scoring much in these heats away and the importance of getting a second heat leader like Woffinden or Pawlicki was or should have been a priority.

 

Pawlicki and Woffinden would have been a respectable pairing but can't see any improvement having Freddie and a six point rider as the top two.

 

Trouble is it was said the big names will come back but apart from Freddie Holder and AJ there has been little movement while the list of riders not returning should be a warning sounded out by Tai last season.

 

 

Instead of running an Elite League Riders Championship how about a Non ELRC being held with Hancock Kasprzak Pedersen Woffinden Hampel Pawlicki Sayfutdinov Ward Janowski ? Bjarne MJJ etc etc.

I thought it was already the 'Elite Riders Championship' allowing 'non - EL' riders Like Woffy) to take part. I mean they have to have SOME decent stars to justify the admission charges don't they?!

Edited January 6, 2015 by Skidder1

[SCB]

The announcement on the silencers being allowed to be used next season certainly points towards Peter Karlsson being signed in a hope he can at least be a 7 point rider.

 

The thing is once he moves up to a heat leader status will he be able to get points especially away when up against the big guns in most heats and especially heat 13.

 

Andersen and Harris at Coventry

Iversen and Bjerre at Kings Lynn

Zagar and Nicholls at Belle Vue

Holder and Magic at Poole

 

It is hard to see him scoring much in these heats away and the importance of getting a second heat leader like Woffinden or Pawlicki was or should have been a priority.

 

Pawlicki and Woffinden would have been a respectable pairing but can't see any improvement having Freddie and a six point rider as the top two.

 

Trouble is it was said the big names will come back but apart from Freddie Holder and AJ there has been little movement while the list of riders not returning should be a warning sounded out by Tai last season.

 

 

Instead of running an Elite League Riders Championship how about a Non ELRC being held with Hancock Kasprzak Pedersen Woffinden Hampel Pawlicki Sayfutdinov Ward Janowski ? Bjarne MJJ etc etc.

So just who are you going to sign on a 6-7 point average that is going to beat all them riders consistently? Such rider don't exist. PK is as close to it as it gets.