T.N.T. Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Emil would be serious money and although I would love it to be slightly true I can't see it happening and firmly believe we are trying to put a solid deal together to get Pawlicki back in 2015 with reassurances he wont be told to be sick at the drop of a hat again. Would settle for Greg Hancock though even if it was just to wind up the Cradley fans or get them to turn up on a Monday night. He may cost a fortune but the crowds would be massive each meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish keeper Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Just hope we don't go with the likes of Proctor and Wells to make the team up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Just hope we don't go with the likes of Proctor and Wells to make the team up. That and/or karlsson I fear are quite likely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Just hope we don't go with the likes of Proctor and Wells to make the team up. Surely its a no for Wells anyway with the new non EU ruling. He is already signed to Workington so he cant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Emil would be serious money and although I would love it to be slightly true I can't see it happening and firmly believe we are trying to put a solid deal together to get Pawlicki back in 2015 with reassurances he wont be told to be sick at the drop of a hat again. Would settle for Greg Hancock though even if it was just to wind up the Cradley fans or get them to turn up on a Monday night. He may cost a fortune but the crowds would be massive each meeting. Why would Pawlicki go back to a club that sacked him?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Just hope we don't go with the likes of Proctor and Wells to make the team up. Wells is a no go now he is at Workington which no doubt was after CVS advised him to take the deal on the table as he doesn't like keeping assets waiting. Why would Pawlicki go back to a club that sacked him?? Sacked is maybe the wrong word. Released from his contract due to the situation he was put under by his Polish club as they reached the play offs and Wolves were simply fulfilling missing fixtures. He loved it at Monmore Green and he wants to come back and its no secret that CVS, Adams and the fans would love to see him again as he was clearly better than 7.32 and averaged 7.92 with the club and the fact he is only 19 when he started with us he showed a great attitude in the team and always willing to help others QUESTION; As funny as it sounds, I know Andreas Jonsson has had his average reduced from 9.66 to 9.03 to match that of Niels K Iversen as he is World #6 and was World #2 since that figure was achieved and the league has changed. However Fredrik Lindgren averaged 8.94 in a league that in 2013 was much easier than the 2014 race format that saw most heat leaders have their averages go down like Woffinden, Kildemand, Ward, Zagar etc. Could there be a case for Lindgren to get a new average due to the change of race format ? Also will Pawlicki have to return on his 2014 only average of 7.92 or the 7.32 achieved over various seasons ? QUESTION #2; Would it not be more realistic if Tobias Musielak was on a 5.50 or 5.00 average as he hasn't appeared in a WTC or SGP and has ridden mainly at reserve in Poland. Isn't 6 a little high !! If there is other averages we should be looking at, maybe we could still sign Pawlicki on 7.32 or 7.92 and still fit in PK or another 6 pointer like Kylmakorpi or Zengota say ....... you know it makes sense 1 - Fredrik Lindgren 2 - Tobiasz Musielak 3 - Jacob Thorssell 4 - PK (or a 6+) 5 - Piotr Pawlicki 6 - Lewis Blackibird 7 - Josh Bates NICE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish keeper Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 My be CVS should look into having Lindgren's average dropped and see about Musielak coming in on a 5 Pool would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 What about Daniel Davidsson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 That would be a dream if Emil was at Wolves. Cant see it happening tho. Cheap Van Stratten pay for Emil.....?? Bwhahahahaha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Cheap Van Stratten pay for Emil.....?? Bwhahahahaha No he wouldn't but Hancock ? Would certainly pull the crowds in and a brilliant top two in Greg and Freddie would be hard to stop in the closing heats. With no Polish contract he would not want to do just Sweden and the GP's and Sweden starts after the GP's have started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 What about Daniel Davidsson Poole fans were saying that virtually every week when he rode for us??? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 In response to T.N.T's questions - NO and NO! Merry Christmas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Don't see how Freddie can get his average reduced even if the race format is harder now as Scott Nicholls and Jason Doyle increased their averages as did Piotr Pawlicki really. Wells is at Workington but no signs yet that Ty Proctor and Nicolai Klindt have places in the Premier League where they both need to be rather than the Elite League Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Cheap Van Stratten pay for Emil.....?? Bwhahahahaha Of course Freddie, Tai and Piotr ride for peanuts. PMFSL Don't see how Freddie can get his average reduced even if the race format is harder now as Scott Nicholls and Jason Doyle increased their averages as did Piotr Pawlicki really. Why cant he? Same as AJ the race format is very different to when they last raced here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 Of course Freddie, Tai and Piotr ride for peanuts. PMFSL Why cant he? Same as AJ the race format is very different to when they last raced here. Applying that logic then second strings coming in who didn't ride here last year should have their average, real or assessed, increased. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 Of course Freddie, Tai and Piotr ride for peanuts. PMFSL Well, Freddie didn't ride for you last year, he had better things to do... In fact so did Tai, he just didn't tell you, but had the cheek to turn up ... Forgive me for forgetting Piotr ( I don't like Monday's) Pawlicki, the stalwart rider, who stuck with you through thick and thin all last season when it suited, shame on me... They're as cheap as chips when they're not there, or bothering their arses to turn up lovey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 Applying that logic then second strings coming in who didn't ride here last year should have their average, real or assessed, increased. Its not really the same logic. Heat leaders have a harder job unlike second strings. Well, Freddie didn't ride for you last year, he had better things to do... In fact so did Tai, he just didn't tell you, but had the cheek to turn up ... Forgive me for forgetting Piotr ( I don't like Monday's) Pawlicki, the stalwart rider, who stuck with you through thick and thin all last season when it suited, shame on me... They're as cheap as chips when they're not there, or bothering their arses to turn up lovey Of course you would know about riders not turning up - like Kasprzak a couple of seasons ago and Andersen in the Play Offs. ;-) But I will give you the Tai one! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 Its not really the same logic. Heat leaders have a harder job unlike second strings. Of course it is the same logic. Heat leaders had a harder job last year and second strings had an easier job so if heat leaders coming in on a pre 2014 average should have that average reduced then similarly, second strings coming in on a pre 2014 average should have it increased. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 Now I may be wrong but this is only a query, not a statement. I have been told that Tobiasz Museliak is not on a 6.00 and Wolves have a certain figure left to sign the last two once that deal is finished. However, the figures I have been told don't seem to add up and I could understand Tobiasz being a 5.00 rider instead of 6.00 but if the figures that were suggested to me are right it would have meant Freddie's average had been reduced by over a point ? Maybe Freddie's average has been reduced slightly, but that would then mean Museliak coming in on a 4.00 which would definatley appear wrong to everyone. However on the press release of Lindgren signing, didn't it say he was coming in on 8.94 or have things changed now that AJ got his reduction ? Would be nice for clubs and the BSPA to have official averages with their signings to avoid speculation as to who fits where and be totally looking at the wrong figures. Still think PLAN A at present is Pawlicki and Karlsson but if the rumours are right or even close, PLAN B looks even better for all concerned !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 Of course it is the same logic. Heat leaders had a harder job last year and second strings had an easier job so if heat leaders coming in on a pre 2014 average should have that average reduced then similarly, second strings coming in on a pre 2014 average should have it increased. I agree with this. If you're going to play with riders average it has to be all or nothing. IMO it's wrong AJ had his average changed really but I can see how making him a point higher thna the guy 3rd in the averages would be a little harsh, maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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