A ORLOV Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 It goes on league finishing pos doesn't it which means we would get seventh pick or am I wrong depends wether Kings Lynn pick Kerr I suppose Explanation of how it works here http://swindonlinksport.com/swindon_sports_news/howitworksthedraft 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clambo71 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) Wolves in talks with Freddie Jacob agreed terms Edited November 20, 2014 by clambo71 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 I dont think Lewis Rose was protected last season but simply still availsble when Kings Lynn came to select thei second pick. I thought the Stars had BOTH riders protected?? Great news that Jacob has signed, cant say that it was ever in doubt so no surprise. Also good to hear that Freddie is in talks about coming back. Although its a little concerning that its a `time limited` offer. Clearly Freddie is first choice and the team to be built around is option 1. I just hope they have other decent options if Freddie declines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sweetman Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Great news if he comes back,but didnt someone say he would have to find somewhere new to live,as his own property in this country is leased out to someone else next year. No problem, perhaps he,Jacob and Berntzon(and perhaps PK)can all find cheap lodgings at Ikea in Wednesbury . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Will Wolves protect Jacobs or Morris in Grade B? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Will Wolves protect Jacobs or Morris in Grade B? Jacobs is a Bees asset so they could protect him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sweetman Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Will Wolves protect Jacobs or Morris in Grade B? Cant see how they can protect Jacobs.Horton bought out his contract from Ipswich in May,so presume he belongs to the Bees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Cant see how they can protect Jacobs.Horton bought out his contract from Ipswich in May,so presume he belongs to the Bees. If Coventry don't plan to use him, Wolves get to protect him. Coventry will almost certainly protect Garrity so if you want Jacobs then he's yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 If Coventry don't plan to use him, Wolves get to protect him. Coventry will almost certainly protect Garrity so if you want Jacobs then he's yours. If not it will be Sarjeant anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Coventry can't protect Garrity as he is not their asset so he would be in the draw of Grade A riders and therefore should be picked by Leicester or Wolverhampton. If Coventry pick Jacobs or Sarjeant in the Grade B list then Wolves would be interested in either but if they have Garrity or Blackbird then they will be near the last to pick in the second draw and both should be snapped up by then. So Freddie is in talks ! Maybe the time is limited because another track want to talk to him but are waiting to see about another number one first ? As for accommodation well he would be in Poland on a Sunday and Sweden most Tuesdays and Thursdays so I am sure he could get a bed for a few hours on a Monday night before his flight back to Sweden. Would have thought Tai Woffinden would have been mentioned in the press release saying that they would look at both leading the team or do they already know Tai is unlikely to be back next season ? Three or four Swedes next season then are the targets in Freddie Jacob and Bernzton with PK not out of the picture. Still leaves just under seven for the last rider. So Garrity can be protected by Coventry but they would not be able to protect Sarjeant or Jacobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) Coventry can't protect Garrity as he is not their asset so he would be in the draw of Grade A riders and therefore should be picked by Leicester or Wolverhampton. Yes they can as you can protect an asset or a rider that rode for you last year. Edited November 20, 2014 by woz01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Coventry can't protect Garrity as he is not their asset so he would be in the draw of Grade A riders So Freddie is in talks ! Maybe the time is limited because another track want to talk to him but are waiting to see about another number one first ? Yes Coventry can protect Garrity under the new rules. As for Freddie i read it that CVS wont wait for Freddie as he is clearly number one choice but doesn't want to risk Freddie saying no and no coming back to the EL. I haven't read anywhere that he is looking to come back now he isn't in the GP`s. In fact i heard the opposite. Maybe other options are on the table but they need to act one way or the other. I doubt that Wolves would give another team permission to talk to him until a decision is made, and rightly so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sweetman Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Think now that the goal posts have been changed regards protecting a rider that was with a club last season and not an asset,can see only Wolves,Swindon and Leicester not taking out that protection. We could of course protect Jacobs or Morris,but think we will get a better pick in both grades if we dont take that option . Leicester,being first pick i think will go for Auty.Belle Vue perhaps call back Worrall,then leaving us to take Blackbird. Think Cov will protect Garrity,but maybe better off protecting Sarjeant.(they could lose out on both him and Jacobs if the grading doesnt go to plan). Maybe using just an asset would have been fairer,and it probably means Poole will get last pick on Grade 2 riders if Newman is placed at the top of Grade 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 So Coventry can protect Garrity as he was there in 2014 but that would mean that Sarjeant and Jacobs would be up for grabs in the second pick. So as Wolves get second pick in the Grade A riders, maybe Wolves should protect Jacobs in the second pick and at reserve with possibly Josh Auty or Lewis Blackbird it would be a formidable partnership. Maybe I am putting two and two together and getting five but if talks have started with Freddie, surely the first question would be "do you want to ride in Britain next season" With no Grand Prix series then I would have thought he would have said yes straight away and only terms to bebsorted, so maybe the reason he isn't sure is he may well hold out for a better deal or elsewhereelsewhere. Hopefully the talk in on Monday night will give a clear picture of how the team will be heading and who could be retained as it looks unlikely now that Lasse Bjerre will be back due to a low 4.67 average and the high points limit. In the Speedway Star there is nothing about there being a rule on seven plus riders being limited to just two per team until you read about Chris Holder looking to return Look at for example Wolves wanting to start with Pawlicki and Woffinden or Swindon keeping Peter Kildemand and Troy Bachelor both on 7.58. How would Wolves fill in 19.53 for three riders without another seven plus rider. Sadly Pawlicki is a no go next season and the quiet coming about Tai seems to point to him not returning to Britain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbsjoe Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 So Coventry can protect Garrity as he was there in 2014 but that would mean that Sarjeant and Jacobs would be up for grabs in the second pick. So as Wolves get second pick in the Grade A riders, maybe Wolves should protect Jacobs in the second pick and at reserve with possibly Josh Auty or Lewis Blackbird it would be a formidable partnership. Maybe I am putting two and two together and getting five but if talks have started with Freddie, surely the first question would be "do you want to ride in Britain next season" With no Grand Prix series then I would have thought he would have said yes straight away and only terms to bebsorted, so maybe the reason he isn't sure is he may well hold out for a better deal or elsewhereelsewhere. Hopefully the talk in on Monday night will give a clear picture of how the team will be heading and who could be retained as it looks unlikely now that Lasse Bjerre will be back due to a low 4.67 average and the high points limit. In the Speedway Star there is nothing about there being a rule on seven plus riders being limited to just two per team until you read about Chris Holder looking to return Look at for example Wolves wanting to start with Pawlicki and Woffinden or Swindon keeping Peter Kildemand and Troy Bachelor both on 7.58. How would Wolves fill in 19.53 for three riders without another seven plus rider. Sadly Pawlicki is a no go next season and the quiet coming about Tai seems to point to him not returning to Britain. you would hope so but after all this is speedway and nothing is simple and straight forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish keeper Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Freddie Lindgren 8.94 Kenneth Bjerre 7.41 or Scott Nicholls 7.56 Jacob Thorsell 6.26 Oliver Berntzon 6.00 Lasse Bjerre 4.66 Lewis Blackbird Joe Jacob that is a team of racers don't know if it could win the league but good to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superguest Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 I didnt get the hype about JJ. He wasnt very good at Wolves. Id be more inclinded to use Ash or Rose if possible! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sweetman Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Its just a pity there arent more direct flights to Sweden from the midlands enabling riders more time to get to their meetings on a tuesday. Only one flight from B,ham(6.30 at night)and none at all from East Mids. Its a pain in the ar$e trying to get down to Stansted from Wolvo.You could see how tired Tai looked in his documentary making that journey. Wonder if its cost effcient to perhaps charter a plane from Wolverhampton Airport(Halfpenny Green) to transport the riders. No idea how much it costs or wether its viable. Certainly make life more comfortable and relaxing for those concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbsjoe Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Freddie Lindgren 8.94 Kenneth Bjerre 7.41 or Scott Nicholls 7.56 Jacob Thorsell 6.26 Oliver Berntzon 6.00 Lasse Bjerre 4.66 Lewis Blackbird Joe Jacob that is a team of racers don't know if it could win the league but good to watch. I'd have Nicholls at Wolves, think it's a few years too late though now. however if Thorsell is third heat leader then it's a weak team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 I'd have Nicholls at Wolves, think it's a few years too late though now. however if Thorsell is third heat leader then it's a weak team. I thought like that when he came to Belle vue last year but he had a really good year(hope he is back next year)You are right he is not the rider he once was but then again in the majority he is not riding against the same class of riders he once was. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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