INCOGNITO Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Sign Pawlicki and get an agreement with Skornicki it won't happen again as it was the club and not the rider that called the shots. With two Leszno riders together it should help and if there is any problems by August simply ask Tai to do the remaining 8-12 meetings. Maybe get Tai to seriously rethink the offer of a job share even if it's just for say 10 of the 28 matches. If not its a case of one more season for PK and another six pointer but that is possibly why they were thinking about Daniel King ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superguest Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) He already was this season (on 2014 averages). No is questioning his ability. It really is nothing to do with organisation either. He was fine until the last 3rd of the season. Then the demands of his U21 commitments and Polish club saw his commitment level to Wolves and the EL fall by the wayside. On his starting average for me he would be a no brainer. However that said, the same issues will be there for 2015. As the best U21 Polish kid his demands from Poland will be huge and only increase. So it would be another gamble on a rider turning up for all the meetings. This is something British Speedway. and Wolves fans wont tolerate. If he starts to miss meetings, wed get a 21 day facility. And could use a guest. His average is only going one way, and in a years time, he may be in the Grand prixs which means he probably wouldnt race here anyway. Just dont see a better option out there. As others have said, maybe finding out if Tai would be up for sharing the role should Piotr be missing meetings after August. Edited December 9, 2014 by superguest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) For me, Pawlicki is a risk worth taking. He's so good, and so great to watch when he's there that the risk of the odd missing meeting just pales into insignificance. Pawlicki for 90% of meetings or Davey Watt for all of them?! And if as suggested Woffy could share with him and ride 5-10 meetings that Pawlicki can't do then thats surely a winner from a Wolves POV? Edited December 9, 2014 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 For me, Pawlicki is a risk worth taking. He's so good, and so great to watch when he's there that the risk of the odd missing meeting just pales into insignificance. Pawlicki for 90% of meetings or Davey Watt for all of them?! And if as suggested Woffy could share with him and ride 5-10 meetings that Pawlicki can't do then thats surely a winner from a Wolves POV? No it's definitely Davey Watt for me, Watt and CVS deserve each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 No it's definitely Davey Watt for me, Watt and CVS deserve each other. The facial expressions of Watt and Adams after a home defeat would look like a couple of gargoyles!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 What average would Musielak come in on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 What average would Musielak come in on? Whatever the MC deem appropriate (4.00 probably knowing CVS) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 What average would Musielak come in on? He should be a 6.0 - but anything is possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Whatever the MC deem appropriate (4.00 probably knowing CVS) Change the record, you're getting extremely boring now. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish keeper Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Maybe Scornicki could do the meetings Pawlicki misses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Sign Pawlicki and get an agreement with Skornicki it won't happen again as it was the club and not the rider that called the shots. What's Skornicki got to do with it? NOTHING will change in 2015 if Piotr signed. The Poles and his Polish club will call all the shots as they always do. If he starts to miss meetings, wed get a 21 day facility. And could use a guest. His average is only going one way, and in a years time, he may be in the Grand prixs which means he probably wouldnt race here anyway. Just dont see a better option out there. As others have said, maybe finding out if Tai would be up for sharing the role should Piotr be missing meetings after August. I agree there isn't a better option and a job share with Tai sounds perfect. However it was a matter of months ago that fans voted that it was a no to Piotr coming back whilst he still has his U21 commitments and yet now we seem to be saying its OK now because there isn't a better option! I detest the thought that Piotr could be `doing a Kasprzak` and missing meetings to suit and makes the managements decision to sack him a silly one because now its OK if he misses the odd meeting. It would be a pure joy to watch him again but I have misgivings because his Polish club will still say jump and he will have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Didnt think the riders could share?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superguest Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 What's Skornicki got to do with it? NOTHING will change in 2015 if Piotr signed. The Poles and his Polish club will call all the shots as they always do. I agree there isn't a better option and a job share with Tai sounds perfect. However it was a matter of months ago that fans voted that it was a no to Piotr coming back whilst he still has his U21 commitments and yet now we seem to be saying its OK now because there isn't a better option! I detest the thought that Piotr could be `doing a Kasprzak` and missing meetings to suit and makes the managements decision to sack him a silly one because now its OK if he misses the odd meeting. It would be a pure joy to watch him again but I have misgivings because his Polish club will still say jump and he will have to. No way is this an ideal situation but without any other heatleader available, what can we do? Lets hope our Leszno links strike a deal.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Didnt think the riders could share?? Its another one of these is it isn't it things from the BSPA. Who knows?! No way is this an ideal situation but without any other heatleader available, what can we do? Lets hope our Leszno links strike a deal.. We are assuming there is no other heat leader available of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbsjoe Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Its another one of these is it isn't it things from the BSPA. Who knows?! We are assuming there is no other heat leader available of course! by the looks of it there aren't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 What's Skornicki got to do with it? NOTHING will change in 2015 if Piotr signed. The Poles and his Polish club will call all the shots as they always do. It would be a pure joy to watch him again but I have misgivings because his Polish club will still say jump and he will have to. Adam as a member now of Leszno management is in charge of sorting the deal for Tobiasz and is the right person to ensure Wolves are not mistreated by Leszno if they bring back Piotr which I hope they do. Emil Sayfutdinov 8.00 and Lasse Bjerre 4.67 fits nicely ..... but Piotr more likely (with Proctor or Klindt !!! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtommo Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 im sure adam was in charge last season when piotr did not ride so what makes anyone think the same wont happen again , but I wish he would come back and ride world class rider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 im sure adam was in charge last season when piotr did not ride so what makes anyone think the same wont happen again , but I wish he would come back and ride world class rider Exactly. Having Adam in charge is like a little plaster on a big wound. The Poles will do exactly what they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Ashley Holloway did the bikes for Emil Sayfutinov and last year also did Fredrik Lindgren s bikes. Would work well if both were at Wolves with bikes done by the same pit crew based here enabling them to fly in and ride then fly out. Still think it's more a case of getting the rider they want but ensuring the deal is for every meeting and no clashes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) Ashley Holloway did the bikes for Emil Sayfutinov and last year also did Fredrik Lindgren s bikes. Would work well if both were at Wolves with bikes done by the same pit crew based here enabling them to fly in and ride then fly out. Still think it's more a case of getting the rider they want but ensuring the deal is for every meeting and no clashes. That would be a dream if Emil was at Wolves. Cant see it happening tho. Edited December 10, 2014 by stevebrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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