Wolfsbane Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 After all the bloodletting and toy throwing we might as well try to be positive. Out of the class of 2014 Pawlicki & Thorssell should be retained. The concern is that if Piotr continues on his current upward curve sooner or later he's likely to fall into the 'forget the UK' group. Until the format of the EL & the draft rider situation are resolved then I guess the remainder are pure speculation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Your post seems to infer you have written off 2014 then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Your post seems to infer you have written off 2014 then. We are waiting for our promotion to prove the fans wrong................................................... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted July 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) Your post seems to infer you have written off 2014 then. Errrr......yup. Some of us could see the writing on the wall quite a while back I've given up on the anger/annoyance with our promotion, bad for the blood pressure! I'm just sitting back and laughing at their inadequacy & inactivity We are waiting for our promotion to prove the fans wrong................................................... How long you got? Edited July 23, 2014 by Wolfsbane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 How long you got? Well we all know August is too late 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sweetman Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 I think our season virtually went down the plug hole on 23rd June,when we were thrashed at home by Lynn.Since then its been a downward spiral both on and off the track. Wolverhampton 2015.The biggest worry for me will be how Dave Parry reacts to this seasons ball$-up.His sponsership money is performance related,so dont think hes gonna be to pleased with the way the team have performed.Think im right in saying its the longest one going in British speedway(could be wrong though)so lets just hope he thinks this is just a one season blip. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dump that clutch Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 is there any other race night Wolverhampton can go to, or is it Monday or nothing... ? Genuine question because if we were to go to standard race nights for all Elite League, Monday would definately not be on the list in my eyes.. Poland - Sunday Sweden - Tuesday UK - Wednesday/Thursday i know Denmark ride on Wednesday's but not many top boys ride over there.... and even the top Danes don't ride in all of their fixtures.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 is there any other race night Wolverhampton can go to, or is it Monday or nothing... ? Genuine question because if we were to go to standard race nights for all Elite League, Monday would definately not be on the list in my eyes.. Poland - Sunday Sweden - Tuesday UK - Wednesday/Thursday i know Denmark ride on Wednesday's but not many top boys ride over there.... and even the top Danes don't ride in all of their fixtures.. Why not Mondays?? Monday has been the home of EL Speedway on SKY since it started. Monday and Wednesday (off day) could be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted July 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) is there any other race night Wolverhampton can go to, or is it Monday or nothing... ? Genuine question because if we were to go to standard race nights for all Elite League, Monday would definately not be on the list in my eyes.. Poland - Sunday Sweden - Tuesday UK - Wednesday/Thursday i know Denmark ride on Wednesday's but not many top boys ride over there.... and even the top Danes don't ride in all of their fixtures.. To quote Woffinden 'Poland sunday, UK Monday, Sweden Tuesday, rest of the week off'. Monday seems to be favourite due to Sky coverage and the ability of non Monday tracks to move to suit Sky. Whether this could be done on a permanent basis will depend on local conditions with tracks owned or rented and whether a change of racenight would be financial suicide I guess. What happens if Sky pull the plug in the future? Edited July 23, 2014 by Wolfsbane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 I'd go with Correy, Ermolenko and Karlsson as a base and then work from there. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 I'd go with Correy, Ermolenko and Karlsson as a base and then work from there. They were the days What about George Stancl as well? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dump that clutch Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Why not Mondays?? Monday has been the home of EL Speedway on SKY since it started. Monday and Wednesday (off day) could be good. To quote Woffinden 'Poland sunday, UK Monday, Sweden Tuesday, rest of the week off'. Monday seems to be favourite due to Sky coverage and the ability of non Monday tracks to move to suit Sky. Whether this could be done on a permanent basis will depend on local conditions with tracks owned or rented and whether a change of racenight would be financial suicide I guess. What happens if Sky pull the plug in the future? fair comments, only thinking of a day off in between a 'hectic schedule' of meetings.. Sunday race Monday day off Tuesday race Wednesday race Thursday race weekends for GP and World Cup, SEC and GP Qualifiers.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted July 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 I'd go with Correy, Ermolenko and Karlsson as a base and then work from there. They'd find a way to fit in a Torben Hansen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 They'd find a way to fit in a Torben Hansen Never rated him as highly as Fleming Pedersen myself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted July 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 They were the days What about George Stancl as well? They were. Them 3 as heat leaders exemplify how far EL team strengths have been diluted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Seriuously, who would you Wolves fans get rid of ? As an outsider I can't see that it is a question of a single rider that would make a difference , more a matter of the balance of the side and the inconsistency of most of them . I would have thought a re-declaration with several changes would be needed but no way you would get replacements at this stage of the continental season. I guess if someone had to go I'd say maybe Proctor but I doubt that would change things much. I'd be interested in what you guys think. I always regard Wolves as one of the sides with a bit of sparkle about them, but they all look a bit stale to me this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Seriuously, who would you Wolves fans get rid of ? As an outsider I can't see that it is a question of a single rider that would make a difference , more a matter of the balance of the side and the inconsistency of most of them . I would have thought a re-declaration with several changes would be needed but no way you would get replacements at this stage of the continental season. I guess if someone had to go I'd say maybe Proctor but I doubt that would change things much. I'd be interested in what you guys think. I always regard Wolves as one of the sides with a bit of sparkle about them, but they all look a bit stale to me this year. Already said it. PK and Oliver Berntzon for Ricky and Ty - NOW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish keeper Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 They were the days What about George Stancl as well? Don't forget Charlie Ermolenko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 They were. Them 3 as heat leaders exemplify how far EL team strengths have been diluted. Quite agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 is there any other race night Wolverhampton can go to, or is it Monday or nothing... ? Genuine question because if we were to go to standard race nights for all Elite League, Monday would definately not be on the list in my eyes.. Poland - Sunday Sweden - Tuesday UK - Wednesday/Thursday i know Denmark ride on Wednesday's but not many top boys ride over there.... and even the top Danes don't ride in all of their fixtures.. IF ...... If there is an Elite League next season with GP riders and 8+ riders in it then it has to be Monday or nothing as thats the only night SKY are interested in and without their money you are looking at one big Premier League. Yes Tai has had a poor season overall and Ty Proctor too but the main problem has been that the team never had the right balance from the start and not having a third heat leader has been a big problem, especially away from home. Tai was an obvious #1 and Jacob Thorssell had to be in from the start. That meant 13.81 was used and with Piotr Pawlicki signed up it would have left 11.19 for the last two had they been the first three to sign and for me missing out on Scott Nicholls was sadly the missing link and with a new 4.00 rider like Vaclav Milik or Oliver Bernzton would have been a strong line up. Even PK and a 3.00 rider would have been a good option to ensure you had numbers 1,3 and 5 sorted out with three big scorers like Kings Lynn and Poole who I think will be the eventual winners. Both not only have three food heat leaders but both also had second strings on modest averages like Lambert and Milik while Kings Lynn have benefitted a lot from their reserves. So as for next season, it's hard to see what the best line up or balance will be as the race format will almost certainly change and I think it may change to just one draft rider but at least if possible we will have Tai on a sub 8 average and PK on a sub 7 average along with Pawlicki as the top dog in averages. However there could be big changes and personally feel to get a strong top three like that the EL would have to move to meetings just on a Monday to please the riders and Sky and Jacob again has to be signed up straight away. This is hard on Ricky who has done more than what has been required and a final 6+ average will show rhat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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