Rob Lyon - Fair Play

[Trees]

The problem is Birmingham did not complete a full set of 'A' fixtures - 3 short at home and 2 away I believe.

yep only possible if all A fixtures were done!

[Mark]

I don't know Rob Lyon and I'm sure he is a very nice man, but either he has been misquoted in this weeks Star or he has a very strange idea of fair play.

 

He says, " I was dejected to see Kings Lynn lose all ten of the points gained against Birmingham this season, following Birmingham's financial collapse. I think it's a little unfair if I'm brutally honest it's not a level playing field because we've been there and done the job, and now were being punished for it."

 

So he thinks it would be fairer for the points to stand and for The Stars to have one extra points scoring match over Belle Vue, Poole and Coventry and Two extra matches over Leicester and Swindon, all of which had matches scheduled against The Brummies..

 

If the quote is correct that is poor comment. The bigger picture has to be more important with job losses and, people owed money.

 

Typical speedway. Not many give a thought about anyone else as long as there own team are fine..

[OGT]

I think Lyon's made a big mistake here. His reasoning is a bit flake-y and wafer thin to say the least. There are hundreds and thousands of reasons why he's wrong on this. No wonder there's been a McFlurry of complaints, it all leaves me cold.

What next, he'll be complaining about no sundae racing in the EL?

[semion]

It's a rum old do raisin that in here

 

 

I'll get me coat

Edited July 23, 2014 by semion

[Bagpuss]

I think he's fab.

[semion]

He's overseen Lynn ZOOM to the top of the league

[Star Fever]

Mr Lyon is no Mr Softee, even when his back is against the Wall(s).

[Trees]

Hopefully he'll be able to hold aloft a magnum of champers at the end of this season!!!

[BWitcher]

Not this issue perhaps, plenty of others over the years though. The tacticals / getting three points for winning at home whatever the score bleat being the latest.

 

FWIW I think Rob has got this one badly wrong.

 

How about rolling over and letting Poole break rules and postpone matches on a whim?

[semion]

If any riders start letting it slip then I can see Lyon giving Ben & Jerry a call

[E I Addio]

 

How about rolling over and letting Poole break rules and postpone matches on a whim?

 

 

Getting very childish and off topic now.

 

1. Rob Lyons has a public rant in Speedway Star about losing league points over Brum's demise. Apart from the fact that it is insensitive to Brum fans who have lost a lot more than a few league points it is a rant that is supported by nobody, not even the KL fans.

 

2. Jon Cook, although in the same position as Lyon in having lost league points does not go crying to Speedway Star.

 

3. Gordon Bennet , unable to accept the fact that Lyon has publicly made a fool of himself with his silly complaint tries to argue that lakeside fans are somehow precluded from having an opinion because jon Cook has complained about things in the past. He conveniently ignores the fact that all promoters have made both valid and invalid complaints about things in the past but apparently its only Lakeside fans that can't have an opinion on Lyons outburst. GB cites Cvooks comment on the website complaining about the T/R rule, conveniently ignoring the fact that Cook articulated the views of a great many fans who also would like to see the back of the T/R rule , unlike Rob Lyon whose comments had the support of nobody. he also refers to un unspecified incident 14 years ago when Cook was Bob Dugards bag-carrier at Eastbourne but conveniently skirts round the fact that Lyon has plenty of skeletons in his own cupboard like being unable to control his temper and bursting into a referees box and abusing the ref completely insensitive to the fact that a rider was lying seriously injured on the track. That line of discussion therefore ceases.

 

4. Days pass with not much of relevance being said, then Bwitcher, with a bit of time on his hands stumbles across the thread and despite being unable to add an intelligent comment to the subject under discussion seeing the hated words "Jon Cook" and drags up a matter about Jon Cook in which he has chosen not to take note of all the facts and the SCB's decision on the matter but nevertheless takes a swipe at Cook, missing the point of the OP completely..

 

But the bait is not taken and nothing alters the fact that Rob Lyons reported comments in SS were ill founded, not withstanding the fact that we all know very well that SS have a solid record of inflaming or sensationalising evne the most innocuous comments which possibly could be the case here.

 

So, bait not taken. Best if we all move on to a more mature discussion and leave Bwitcher to his fantasies.

[Trees]

He'll need a Lyon's Maid unall!!

[Bagpuss]

I think I've said more than once on this thread that Rob has got it wrong with what he has said. Obviously my comments about Cook being the ultimate whinger have riled E I Addio but I stand by them because he is.

 

Rob has his faults which satisfyingly seem to get under one or two Lakeside fan's skin but I wouldn't swap him for any other TM personally with the possible exception of Rosco.

[LagutaRacingFan]

I think I've said more than once on this thread that Rob has got it wrong with what he has said. Obviously my comments about Cook being the ultimate whinger have riled E I Addio but I stand by them because he is.

 

Rob has his faults which satisfyingly seem to get under one or two Lakeside fan's skin but I wouldn't swap him for any other TM personally with the possible exception of Rosco.

 

Ryan Sullivan is a better team manager than both.

[The Voice Of Reason]

I think I've said more than once on this thread that Rob has got it wrong with what he has said. Obviously my comments about Cook being the ultimate whinger

First and foremost, I'm a Speedway Supporter.

 

Secondly, Lakeside is the team that I support.

 

Thirdly, the Hackney Hawks are in my heart; from this day until the day I die - and with no disrespect intended, more than Lakeside will ever be.

 

Notwithstanding this, I'd like you to clarify your inane comment that Jon Cook is 'a whinger'.

 

Jon Cook is possibly the ONLY promoter that wears his heart on on his sleeve; and possibly states publicly what the majority of decent, level-headed speedway fans are to thinking.

 

As for Rob Lyon, as I've said elsewhere, and with NO disrespect to Kings Lynn riders nor their supporters, the guys is not my favourite person.

Edited July 26, 2014 by The Voice Of Reason

[Bagpuss]

Good for you. Its a shame however that you can't articulate your thoughts without the need for abuse, and putting it in capitals doesn't make you sound any bigger or cleverer.

 

I don't know Jon Cook, he could be a thoroughly nice fellow and I have no doubt he does his best for his club. But he has always been a whinger, since long before he joined Lakeside. Plenty of other promoters and TM's wear their hearts on their sleeves without moaning as much.

 

As Bwitcher says its a shame he didn't have quite as much to say when his club was bent over and shafted by Lord Ford last year. Or by Buster in 'fusegate' if of course there was anything untoward on that occasion.

[Blazeaway]

It's hardly a "rant" though is it?

[The Voice Of Reason]

As Bwitcher says its a shame he didn't have quite as much to say when his club was bent over and shafted by Lord Ford last year.

I can't argue with that.

 

Personally, despite the fact our promotion said we couldn't do anything about it, I'd have turned up with my team, ready to race at Poole, and caused Ford as much grief as possible.

 

If the SCB had let the situation fly past without penalty, they'd have set a dangerous precedence. We could have forced their arm into doing something; or threatened to cause embarrassment to the sport by contacting Sky, local media, etc.

 

As you infer, Ford got away with it; his team scraped into the play-offs through cheating and the rest is history.

[BWitcher]

Getting very childish and off topic now.

 

1. Rob Lyons has a public rant in Speedway Star about losing league points over Brum's demise. Apart from the fact that it is insensitive to Brum fans who have lost a lot more than a few league points it is a rant that is supported by nobody, not even the KL fans.

 

2. Jon Cook, although in the same position as Lyon in having lost league points does not go crying to Speedway Star.

 

3. Gordon Bennet , unable to accept the fact that Lyon has publicly made a fool of himself with his silly complaint tries to argue that lakeside fans are somehow precluded from having an opinion because jon Cook has complained about things in the past. He conveniently ignores the fact that all promoters have made both valid and invalid complaints about things in the past but apparently its only Lakeside fans that can't have an opinion on Lyons outburst. GB cites Cvooks comment on the website complaining about the T/R rule, conveniently ignoring the fact that Cook articulated the views of a great many fans who also would like to see the back of the T/R rule , unlike Rob Lyon whose comments had the support of nobody. he also refers to un unspecified incident 14 years ago when Cook was Bob Dugards bag-carrier at Eastbourne but conveniently skirts round the fact that Lyon has plenty of skeletons in his own cupboard like being unable to control his temper and bursting into a referees box and abusing the ref completely insensitive to the fact that a rider was lying seriously injured on the track. That line of discussion therefore ceases.

 

4. Days pass with not much of relevance being said, then Bwitcher, with a bit of time on his hands stumbles across the thread and despite being unable to add an intelligent comment to the subject under discussion seeing the hated words "Jon Cook" and drags up a matter about Jon Cook in which he has chosen not to take note of all the facts and the SCB's decision on the matter but nevertheless takes a swipe at Cook, missing the point of the OP completely..

 

But the bait is not taken and nothing alters the fact that Rob Lyons reported comments in SS were ill founded, not withstanding the fact that we all know very well that SS have a solid record of inflaming or sensationalising evne the most innocuous comments which possibly could be the case here.

 

So, bait not taken. Best if we all move on to a more mature discussion and leave Bwitcher to his fantasies.

Enough of your waffle.

 

Gordon Bennett has already clearly stated that Lyons comments were ill founded so your attack on him is both petulant and inaccurate.

 

You however have shown time and again you are unable to question your beloved Cook who quite simply is a disgrace who rolled over and let Poole bring the sport down to new levels, then has the audacity to bleat about it. There is no fantasy, it happened, you can try and rewrite history all you wish.

Edited July 26, 2014 by BWitcher

[orion]

3. Gordon Bennet , unable to accept the fact that Lyon has publicly made a fool of himself

I read many times during this debate that the Artist formerly known as Bagpuss has said that Rob Lyon was wrong ..So not sure what your on about .

 

As for the Cook the bloke is just as bad as Ford as the two tend to work hand in hand to bring in rules to suit there own clubs . He' just another bad apple in a sport that is rotten to the core