ColinMills Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 So what sports do not put up prices for the finals of their competitions ? If you go to a Speedway meeting you do not go there just for the 15 minutes of racing do you. In Tennis there is only 12 minutes play in an hour. Go horse racing and see 6 to 8 minutes racing. all afternoon. What about golf. If you followed Rory Mcilroy on one round in the Golf Open you would see about 7 or 8 minutes action. in 4 and a half hours at a cost of £50 or more. Can also pay hundreds for boxing and see 10 seconds!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Let's hope that the play offs are ride at decent race tracks that are not full of pot holes & have some dirt on them. Oh & Ronnie "my brother is Terry" Russell is nowhere to be seen but can't see that happening sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 The play offs are the best racing most of us will see all season, i agree with the sentiment of it seeming unfair to the winners of the league but the excitement they create is well worth the extra we may have to pay and you cannot get the same enjoyment by watching on telly. The Cardiff gp may look a little boring at times on the tv but when you are there the atmosphere is electric and is regarded by riders as the one they all want to win. Some will say it is just done to create more revenue for Sky and the clubs involved make more money as a result, can't see that's a bad thing. What is puzzling is how a club like Birmingham can go under having been in a play off final the previous season. I don't seem to remember much sympathy for the pirates at the time! mate you know full well im not Matt Fords biggest fan but that season and many others you were deserving champions. Last year Birmingham were. Just my opinion Play-offs show who deals with pressure best. That's the ultimate sign of a good team. no it doesnt but then again same old crap from you Would Pooles original line up last season have won the league...........No Correct im all for making changes and Matt Ford is the best at getting riders in no argument. But Birmingham built a 1-7 at the start of the season that they kept all year. Only to be beat by a team that made changes as the original line up didnt cut it (managements fault) who ended up a vast number of points adrift but then because of a play off system are winners! Its a joke basically. Pooles team last year was good enough for 4th whatever way you look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 On the flip side of the play-offs being good for the teams that qualify for them.Someone mentioned Wolves are on about strengthening up,normally this would cost a team more as they are getting a better quality rider in.If they don't make the play-offs they would lose money.So if 5 teams strengthened through the season and didn't make the play-offs in theory they would lose money and only 4 teams would gain. So while its good financially for 4 teams,it could be bad for the other 5 if they paid out more money to strive to be in the play-offs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I do love a thread that sticks to the subject matter!!! Every club and fan know the rules at the start of every season so why start debating it all again now?? Unless of course the BSPA decide to change the number of play-off qualifiers again??!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I do love a thread that sticks to the subject matter!!! Every club and fan know the rules at the start of every season so why start debating it all again now?? Unless of course the BSPA decide to change the number of play-off qualifiers again??!!! That's not a bad idea,top 8 into the play-offs then at least all teams bar one should get some decent crowds at the end of the season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 That's not a bad idea,top 8 into the play-offs then at least all teams bar one should get some decent crowds at the end of the season. They used to call that the Knock Out Cup ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I do love a thread that sticks to the subject matter!!! Every club and fan know the rules at the start of every season so why start debating it all again now?? Unless of course the BSPA decide to change the number of play-off qualifiers again??!!! Ah, one of those really irritating 'forum police' posts! Of course everyone knows the rules in March, but its a great debate which can be had any time IMO. Good job we are discussing it really otherwise the thread would be a bit 'tumbleweed'. I bet it won't be tomorrow night whatever the score........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) Finals are normally held I at venues befitting to finals not run down stadiums. Go to The most basic of Horse racing meets, I do Towcester from time to time go the Open and what do you get compared to Speedway stadiums ? Go to watch Tennis and you get a days worth of action the same with golf, Cricket etc. Horse racing you get to watch the Horses in the parade ring and think if only Edited July 22, 2014 by semion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 They used to call that the Knock Out Cup ... True,but as that's gone we can now give it the title of Elite league champions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 mate you know full well im not Matt Fords biggest fan but that season and many others you were deserving champions. Last year Birmingham were. Just my opinion no it doesnt but then again same old crap from you Would Pooles original line up last season have won the league...........No Correct im all for making changes and Matt Ford is the best at getting riders in no argument. But Birmingham built a 1-7 at the start of the season that they kept all year. Only to be beat by a team that made changes as the original line up didnt cut it (managements fault) who ended up a vast number of points adrift but then because of a play off system are winners! Its a joke basically. Pooles team last year was good enough for 4th whatever way you look at it. Didn't think most like matt ford, I have had my misgivings with him myself on occassions as you know but he made a mistake by no changing the team in 2010 and paid the price. I dont believe any team has won the title in the play off era without changes although we were forced to last year when holder got injured but hancock was persuaded to fill the void and I didn't think we would see greg on these shores again.Matt Ford makes mistakes but he usually gets it right in the end and he knows its not the beginning of the season that matters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) Didn't think most like matt ford, I have had my misgivings with him myself on occassions as you know but he made a mistake by no changing the team in 2010 and paid the price. I dont believe any team has won the title in the play off era without changes although we were forced to last year when holder got injured but hancock was persuaded to fill the void and I didn't think we would see greg on these shores again.Matt Ford makes mistakes but he usually gets it right in the end and he knows its not the beginning of the season that matters100% agree. We may be 30+ points in front at the top of the table come September but we know all the teams around us will look to strengthen before the team change cutoff date. I can't see what we can change but no change may bite us on the ass. But, it would be absolutely terrific if we can do it without change. I don't want to see any of our current team dismissed as none have done anything wrong Edited July 22, 2014 by screamer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 It could be a good meeting but on that track who knows! It will be tight but think Poole will just edge it. The play offs add excitement i get that, but its a load of old crap that a team can finish fourth an be declared as champions. Poole were the rightful champions when Coventry snatched it from them Birmingham were the rightful champions when Poole snatched it from them. In certain cases it stops the team that was built the best over the winter from getting their just rewards. It will be a travesty this year if Lynn do not go on to be champions (and im an ippo fan!) Why should a team who build an average side be allowed to change into a super team and win the league? Anybody in speedway knew that if Poole or Peterborough got fourth they would win the league last season. To me Kings Lynn will be the champions of 2014 they bloody deserve it If everyone knew that Poole were going to win the league last year when they got 4th then i am not sure how there are anymore Bookmakers left because they were 3-1 come play off time and also would have got beat by Swindon but for Tungate getting injured and allowing Josh g to take 7 rides in the semi . People know the rules before the start of the season and act in a certain manner in trying to win the overall prize . it's long time since I looked or cared as are who came top as the rules of the game is to finish in the top four rules that people know before hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 100% agree. We may be 30+ points in front at the top of the table come September but we know all the teams around us will look to strengthen before the team change cutoff date. I can't see what we can change but no change may bite us on the ass. But, it would be absolutely terrific if we can do it without change. I don't want to see any of our current team dismissed as none have done anything wrong Bjerre isnt exactly flying is he and he has a play off history he wouldnt be proud of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Bjerre isnt exactly flying is he and he has a play off history he wouldnt be proud of Don't worry about Kenneth, He's saving himself for the Play-off's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) Lets not pretend that the play-offs have anything to do with Sport, Woz. Thats the last thing the play-offs are about.But who would go to Coventry v Swindon with out the playoffs, people and promotions moan about poor crowds but imagine a crowd where nothing was riding on it. Of course it's about money we all know this but as the rules state play off winners win the league, it's not how you start a season it's how you finish it and some clubs have built their seasons knowing this. Maybe the should give a trophy for the league leaders but call it just that. I think Rugby Union and League do something similar and play off winners are League Champions. Edited July 23, 2014 by woz01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Don't worry about Kenneth, He's saving himself for the Play-off's Ooh I do hope so!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Please to note Bet 365 are streaming this match at 7.30pm. Saves us from relying on Twitter comments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Please to note Bet 365 are streaming this match at 7.30pm. Saves us from relying on Twitter comments. Well at least you should have no problems hearing whats going on with stand-in centre green presenter, Clive Fisher!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Pawlicki showed improvement last night with 10 points, Schlein not so good so hopefully those scores repeat themselves tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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