TMW Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Also when did Phil ride at BP ? Lol A lot of People have spoken after the sky match and said crap track,dangerous track,awful racing,surprised nobody wasn't killed,ect,ect all sounds like the same opinion that you won't except,even riders are saying the same,you honestly don't know about speedway safety that's clear. You know who I am so I would have thought you would know that rider safety is upermost in my mind. No such thing as a dangerous track only dangerous riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 You know who I am so I would have thought you would know that rider safety is upermost in my mind. No such thing as a dangerous track only dangerous riders. "you know who i am" who are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 "you know who i am" who are you? Nobody of any importance but I can't believe R72 would think I knew nothing or I was unconcerned for rider safety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 ok, cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) You know who I am so I would have thought you would know that rider safety is upermost in my mind. No such thing as a dangerous track only dangerous riders. Doesn't matter who you are - you're wrong. A track that invites riders to go full throttle on very long straights and then try to slide around corners that are far too tight is asking for trouble. Or are you expecting riders to hold back for their own and other's safety? Whatever they choose it puts a severe limit on the chance of decent racing - which is what they're supposed to do. Speedway should be about 4 racers trying to outrace each other - not trying to beat the track. Edited July 16, 2014 by Star Fever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Doesn't matter who you are - you're wrong. A track that invites riders to go full throttle on very long straights and then try to slide around corners that are far to tight is asking for trouble. Or are you expecting riders to hold back for their own and other's safety? Whatever they choose it puts a severe limit on the chance of decent racing - which is what they're supposed to do. Speedway should be about 4 racers trying to outrace each other - not trying to beat the track. Yes thats what they were doing at Peterboro' at the PL 4's which resulted in a shuttle service to the local A&E and Newcastle suppoeters having to miss the end of the meeting. My point before you ask being the riders being the biggest hazard not the track. As I beliwve Peterboro' is classed as 1 of the best tracks in the country and falls happen there too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsonpaul198 Posted July 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Yes thats what they were doing at Peterboro' at the PL 4's which resulted in a shuttle service to the local A&E and Newcastle suppoeters having to miss the end of the meeting. My point before you ask being the riders being the biggest hazard not the track. As I beliwve Peterboro' is classed as 1 of the best tracks in the country and falls happen there too Good post. I was there and it took 4hrs to finish the meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Doesn't matter who you are - you're wrong. A track that invites riders to go full throttle on very long straights and then try to slide around corners that are far to tight is asking for trouble. Or are you expecting riders to hold back for their own and other's safety? Whatever they choose it puts a severe limit on the chance of decent racing - which is what they're supposed to do. Speedway should be about 4 racers trying to outrace each other - not trying to beat the track. Watching Jason Doyle and some of the others top riders on Monday's tele program, going flat out down the back straight and into the corners full belt is part of the attraction of the sport. If some riders find that difficult then that's unfortunate and should probably pack up. Doyle proved beyond doubt the track is safe and not dangerous. Wolves Monmore Green Track is of similar shape, with longer straights and tight corners, and that's regarded as one of the best around. I've seen some brilliant races there. Young and inexperience riders could find these tight corners too technical and struggle. So it would be wrong to blame everything just on the shape of the track. There are a lot of attribute to a good track beside the shape. Camber, Topping and Preparation are just three areas, that are just as important. From my prospective, there are far more crashes caused through rider error than any those caused by the shape of the track........................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) Watching Jason Doyle and some of the others top riders on Monday's tele program, going flat out down the back straight and into the corners full belt is part of the attraction of the sport. If some riders find that difficult then that's unfortunate and should probably pack up. Doyle proved beyond doubt the track is safe and not dangerous. Wolves Monmore Green Track is of similar shape, with longer straights and tight corners, and that's regarded as one of the best around. I've seen some brilliant races there. Young and inexperience riders could find these tight corners too technical and struggle. So it would be wrong to blame everything just on the shape of the track. There are a lot of attribute to a good track beside the shape. Camber, Topping and Preparation are just three areas, that are just as important. From my prospective, there are far more crashes caused through rider error than any those caused by the shape of the track........................ Yes of course a lot of crashes are caused by the riders themselves - I wasn't disputing that - but they hardly need a track that encourages errors do they? At Wolves riders build up nowhere near the speed they can at Leicester - hence negotiating the bends becomes less of a problem and they can RACE. Peterboro has long straights yes but the bends are wide and riders can sweep around them without too much danger and again, can RACE. Accidents will still happen of course but not because of the track design, more likely to be track surface or rider error. At Leicester, no matter how perfect the surface is or how expert the rider is, the very speed they have to go will always nurture an accident. Edited July 16, 2014 by Star Fever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsonpaul198 Posted July 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Watching Jason Doyle and some of the others top riders on Monday's tele program, going flat out down the back straight and into the corners full belt is part of the attraction of the sport. If some riders find that difficult then that's unfortunate and should probably pack up. Doyle proved beyond doubt the track is safe and not dangerous. Wolves Monmore Green Track is of similar shape, with longer straights and tight corners, and that's regarded as one of the best around. I've seen some brilliant races there. Young and inexperience riders could find these tight corners too technical and struggle. So it would be wrong to blame everything just on the shape of the track. There are a lot of attribute to a good track beside the shape. Camber, Topping and Preparation are just three areas, that are just as important. From my prospective, there are far more crashes caused through rider error than any those caused by the shape of the track..................... Great post!!! the good riders ride the track well. the established premier riders ride the track well ,Cook , Morris , Lawson etc etc. Its our 1st year in the Elite league for gods sake. New riders new track. Next year experienced riders will deliver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Watching Jason Doyle and some of the others top riders on Monday's tele program, going flat out down the back straight and into the corners full belt is part of the attraction of the sport. If some riders find that difficult then that's unfortunate and should probably pack up. Doyle proved beyond doubt the track is safe and not dangerous. Wolves Monmore Green Track is of similar shape, with longer straights and tight corners, and that's regarded as one of the best around. I've seen some brilliant races there. Young and inexperience riders could find these tight corners too technical and struggle. So it would be wrong to blame everything just on the shape of the track. There are a lot of attribute to a good track beside the shape. Camber, Topping and Preparation are just three areas, that are just as important. From my prospective, there are far more crashes caused through rider error than any those caused by the shape of the track..................... Great post!!! the good riders ride the track well. the established premier riders ride the track well ,Cook , Morris , Lawson etc etc. Its our 1st year in the Elite league for gods sake. New riders new track. Next year experienced riders will deliver. Have you noticed any difference when normal people quote a post and add their own contribution and when you attempt the same. I don't mean the fact that your posts are nonsense, there is another subtle difference. Think outside the box on this one 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Have you noticed any difference when normal people quote a post and add their own contribution and when you attempt the same. I don't mean the fact that your posts are nonsense, there is another subtle difference. Think outside the box on this one I think he should learn to post outside the box while he's at it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 I think he should learn to post outside the box while he's at it Very good ch958. :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I think he should learn to post outside the box while he's at it Very good ch958. :rofl: Perhaps my sarcasm went over both your heads !!!!!!!!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Perhaps my sarcasm went over both your heads !!!!!!!!!! it didn't go over our heads it just didnt seem sarcastic need more practice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 it didn't go over our heads it just didnt seem sarcastic need more practice I will work on it !!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Perhaps my sarcasm went over both your heads !!!!!!!!!! It didn't go over my head oldace - I thought ch958 made a very clever Post, that is all. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 It didn't go over my head oldace - I thought ch958 made a very clever Post, that is all. :) He was merely putting in print the point I was sarcastically already making. Like I said I better work on my sarcasm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 He was merely putting in print the point I was sarcastically already making. Like I said I better work on my sarcasm I got it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I got it! Wey Hey!!! :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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