jenga Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 red sky at night, redcar are ?????. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmiddlesbrough Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 im not even going to comment on the scoreline tonight as every time i do these days we get walloped, it would be nice if the lads showed a bit of interest tonight though if the tracks anything like last week bring ya goggles as its dry as a nuns gusset out their today, very hot and very humid You can build a speedway track from scratch and build a great fan base, then you can ruin it within 3 years the fan base was already their and this promotion didnt build the track but i have to agree this promotion has ruined it oh for the glory of the cleveland park days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmiddlesbrough Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 one of the best meetings ive ever seen for controversy, i thought we where down and out but what a fight back. well done to the workington fans for turning up tonight as you made a good atmosphere, theirs not many fans out their like ourselves who like to have a good sing song away from home. your not singing anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Take it all bear fans are still drunk what a comeback 15 points down and still win by 2 reads like a good meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Stewart Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Has any team ever had 7 after 5 races and gone on to win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Take it all bear fans are still drunk what a comeback 15 points down and still win by 2 reads like a good meeting It certainly was. I asked for some shale and a bit of water, to go with it. Hey presto, what we got was entertainment. Speedway was the winner tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 It certainly was. I asked for some shale and a bit of water, to go with it. Hey presto, what we got was entertainment. Speedway was the winner tonight. Well, that will have certainly cheered you up a bit then!! as for myself, I cant see past the 15pt lead thrown away and losing by two, that's why I said I can never get over confident with the Comets just a bit unreliable, mind you, what happened with this Luke Crang, only a part race then gone for good, two races and we only have one rider in it, did he aggravate an old injury or summat, updates said he was up and walking after the crash? Have to say it tho, got to get rid of this rule of allowing the home side the use of tacticals, once again the start of the slippery slope for us conceding a 1-8 and without it Comets would surely have hung on for the three!! It is disappointing but 1pt is better than none, but with a 15pt lead bombed out nowhere near the four we "could" have got and if we really want to win something this year we have to stop slipping up, away wins are rare for us and this one definitely got away? Without a doubt losing a reserve so early on didnt help but the remainder built up a 15pt lead so..... how did we lose???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Well done Worky all the lads give it their all tonight and were bitterly dissapointed to lose, great support from the Comets fans, get well soon Luke Crang who crashed in ht one and left Worky with only five riders. Good win however for the Bears, must be a good feeling for their fans having been so far behind to come back and win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 After five heats or so this looked like it was going to be a nightmare meeting - a gate and go hammering with no interest bar the amount of dust. It turned into a cracker, the sort of match that has everyone coming back for more. It had the lot - some cracking racing, a knife edge finish, an amazing come back and even the likes of a starting gate breakdown and some (almost) harmless handbags on the terraces. Credit to redcar for never giving up and workington for their part in a thoroughly entertaining spectacle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthur cross Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 what happened with this Luke Crang, only a part race then gone for good, two races and we only have one rider in it, did he aggravate an old injury or summat, updates said he was up and walking after the crash? Given they don't seem to have declared a number-8 rider, Workington began the night with their reserves needing to fill 10 spaces on the racecard between them ... their 4 scheduled rides each plus 2 of the rider-replacement slots. But with any single reserve only allowed a maximum of 7 rides (in this case, Simon Lambert), the other reserve has to remain responsible for the other 3 rides, regardless of what state he's in. So whether Luke Crang suffered a fresh injury in heat-2 (permitting him to be withdrawn from the meeting and a reserve to stand-in for his remaining rides) or aggravated an old one (requiring him to be a non-starter for his minimum-required 2nd and 3rd rides), Tony Jackson was left with the same dilemma as Comets team manager if Crang wasn't able to ride beyond heat-2. He could only give Lambert his maximum-allowed 7 rides and, as Crang had ridden only once, there would have to be two blanks on the scorecard because there was no other Comet eligible to fill those gaps. The textbook theory for a manager with that problem is to weigh up in which early races the opposition are at their strongest (as well as trying to avoid your busy reserve needing to take several rides in a row) and swiftly sacrifice those 2 blanks against those strengths to speed up getting your own team into tactical-ride territory ... bang goes that theory when the team needing to find those blanks is also rattling up a 22-7 lead !! By the way, even if Workington had declared a number-8 last night, there would probably have still been one blank on their scorecard because Lambert had already taken the opening r/r turn in heat-1 before Crang's exit ... as the number-8 is limited to just the remaining r/r slots, using him twice to avoid any blanks would have meant either Rene Bach or Mason Campton not getting their r/r turn from the main body of the team ... more likely, Bach and Campton would still have both been used with the knock-on effect of only one number-8 ride and, therefore, still one blank elsewhere while using up Lambert's maximum 7 rides. If you think what I've just explained was awkward for Jacko, spare a thought for Plymouth boss Lee Trigger at Newcastle two Sundays ago who started off with 6 riders plus r/r but racked up casualties galore ... when it came to heat 15 nominations, he was down to just 3 fit riders and 2 of those were his reserves who'd both burnt up their 7th ride by one of them being his only rider in heat-13 and the other one being his only rider in heat-14 ... hence Pepe Franc had to go it alone in heat-15 as the only Plymouth rider left who was both healthy and yet to run out of rides !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topgun Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Started off like a train then run out of steam . We have got to stop giving points away because we are giving them away at home .Any news on how Simon is after getting run over . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc131 Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Well, that will have certainly cheered you up a bit then!! as for myself, I cant see past the 15pt lead thrown away and losing by two, that's why I said I can never get over confident with the Comets just a bit unreliable, mind you, what happened with this Luke Crang, only a part race then gone for good, two races and we only have one rider in it, did he aggravate an old injury or summat, updates said he was up and walking after the crash? Luke broke his shoulder blade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorj Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 one of the best meetings ive ever seen for controversy, i thought we where down and out but what a fight back. well done to the workington fans for turning up tonight as you made a good atmosphere, theirs not many fans out their like ourselves who like to have a good sing song away from home. your not singing anymore Give es a C, an O an M an E a T and an S Who took a point away from a 7 man Redcar team who needed a tactical .................THE COMETS Still singing here marra Nice tactic in heat 15 though soaking gate 4 where Josh Grajczonek was coming out of Level on league points but the Bears have double meetings as the Comets, see ya later alligator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Arthur Cross, anyone who can explain a question like you did deserves rather more than just put a "like this" on your post, many, many thank's for that it makes a nice change to get such an eloquent and informative response, more power to your trigger finger Sir!! mc131, thank's mate, broken shoulder blade eh, thats gonna be stiff for a bit, best wishes for a quick recovery Luke!! Give es a C, an O an M an E a T and an S Who took a point away from a 7 man Redcar team who needed a tactical .................THE COMETS Still singing here marra Nice tactic in heat 15 though soaking gate 4 where Josh Grajczonek was coming out of Level on league points but the Bears have double meetings as the Comets, see ya later alligator Who shudda taken "4pts" away from a 7 man Redcar team whom needed a tactical........... Yep, THE COMETS. Try and keep it in perspective!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmiddlesbrough Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) Give es a C, an O an M an E a T and an S Who took a point away from a 7 man Redcar team who needed a tactical .................THE COMETS Still singing here marra Nice tactic in heat 15 though soaking gate 4 where Josh Grajczonek was coming out of Level on league points but the Bears have double meetings as the Comets, see ya later alligator as lord lucan said haha back at ya Taylorj ;P i know we have a crap team year after year and will openly admit it, we are just also rans and whipping boys under the current promotion. tut tut i remember standing on the workington terraces when you didnt have a team in the 80s when glasgow were borrowing your track so dont come the high and mighty now sunshine, we did it all in the 70s and the 80s when the bears had a proper name in front of it MIDDLESBROUGH. must admit most of your fans did you proud last night apart from the odd idiot cheering when riders fell off but what made me laugh the most is when you went deadly silent after heat 15. you werent singing then were you Edited July 18, 2014 by mrmiddlesbrough 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Yes we had a war cry after the defeat, i too remember the home defeats at Workington in the 70s/80s week after week but kept going unlike some fickle Speedway fans today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorj Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 (edited) as lord lucan said haha back at ya Taylorj ;P i know we have a crap team year after year and will openly admit it, we are just also rans and whipping boys under the current promotion. tut tut i remember standing on the workington terraces when you didnt have a team in the 80s when glasgow were borrowing your track so dont come the high and mighty now sunshine, we did it all in the 70s and the 80s when the bears had a proper name in front of it MIDDLESBROUGH. must admit most of your fans did you proud last night apart from the odd idiot cheering when riders fell off but what made me laugh the most is when you went deadly silent after heat 15. you werent singing then were you No I'd gone Toilet Far too young for me to remember the 70's and 80's . Probably one of the rare Worky fans that was pleased with a point , 5 riders I'm not complaining hence why I was still singing , Lord Lucan has his own opinion so back at ya Mr M . Us travelling Worky fans are the loudest bunch around and will continue to be so for the rest of season Edited July 19, 2014 by Taylorj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 (edited) Yes we had a war cry after the defeat, i too remember the home defeats at Workington in the 70s/80s week after week but kept going unlike some fickle Speedway fans today. So did I Topaz so your not alone, well remember sitting in the grandstand looking out onto a ground populated by about an 100 people, getting excited when we managed to get over 30pts at "home", Wayne Jackson and six reserves, remember it like it was yesterday!! No I'd gone Toilet Far too young for me to remember the 70's and 80's . Probably one of the rare Worky fans that was pleased with a point , 5 riders I'm not complaining hence why I was still singing , Lord Lucan has his own opinion so back at ya Mr M . Us travelling Worky fans are the loudest bunch around and will continue to be so for the rest of season You certainly are, but your still missing the point, we were in a position to easily take all four and we should have done, if the situation had been 15pts down and fought back to lose by two and winning an unlikely point then yes, absolutely, a well earned point indeed, but that's not what happened and that's why people such as myself have a very different opinion to your's? Edited July 19, 2014 by Lord Lucan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmiddlesbrough Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 No I'd gone Toilet Far too young for me to remember the 70's and 80's . Probably one of the rare Worky fans that was pleased with a point , 5 riders I'm not complaining hence why I was still singing , Lord Lucan has his own opinion so back at ya Mr M . Us travelling Worky fans are the loudest bunch around and will continue to be so for the rest of season i thought everyone already knew it is middlesbrough/redcar that hold that card Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorj Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 i thought everyone already knew it is middlesbrough/redcar that hold that card Going by the silence up until heat 15 on thursday, not anymore MM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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