Woz01 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Never stopped people going in the old days when Guests were still used ..it's a myth to say people don't go anymore because of that . But back than guests were hardly needed these days its every match one way or another. People perceive it as amateurish, its not even one guest sometimes its 4 in one team. That is a big reason why some dont attend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) as soon as Lawson isn't riding for the Bears and a guest is used I'm not interested in the fixture, home or away Edited July 14, 2014 by ch958 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 as soon as Lawson isn't riding for the Bears and a guest is used I'm not interested in the fixture, home or away That's called being selective. One Rider is NOT the Club. One Supporter less could finish a Club though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevtheRev Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) As I see it, the fixture list is very disjointed. People are not turning up because it is too espensive and they don't know who is going to be representing either team. Watching the Swedish and Polish leagues on TV - they seem to have got it right. Crowds are good and teams are stronger than the UK. To start with, we have to go to one night a week. With Poland on Sunday (and sometimes Monday), Sweden on Tuesday, then the UK has to go Thursdays. Home one weekk, away the next. Cut admission to £12 or £15 including programme. Until that happens, speedway will continue to decline in the UK. Edited July 14, 2014 by KevtheRev 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 That's called being selective. One Rider is NOT the Club. One Supporter less could finish a Club though. sorry i disagree - once a guest is in a team the fixture is little more than a farce as far as i'm concerned 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 sorry i disagree - once a guest is in a team the fixture is little more than a farce as far as i'm concerned We must agree to differ ch958. I do not believe staying away is the answer, in fact, staying away can only damage whichever Club you support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Kev Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) Why do you think it is that fans in certain areas are not attending? Can understand with eastbourne as too many meetings against heavy depleted teams but Birmingham were top of league for most of last season and still low crowds? Brummies have not had consistently good crowds since 2007 and we should never have moved up in the first place. Just hope we have the chance of reopening in the Pl next year and have not lost the sport for good in Birmingham Edited July 14, 2014 by Brummie Kev 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Brummies have not had consistently good crowds since 2007 and we should never have moved up in the first place. Just hope we have the chance of the reopening in the Pl next year and have not lost the sport for good in Birmingham Spot on BK. I hope so too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruiser McHuge Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 It's a myth that guest riders cause crowds to drop....i first went to speedway in the 70's and there have always been guests ...and if a top rider is absent then the crowds would no doubt be lower if he wasn't replaced by a guest to keep the match competitive.. The problem is that teams have lost their identity now...too many riders are unavailable so teams change too much week by week...fans have less affinity with the riders as they are just on hire for a season....teams change too much each season...it's rare for riders to complete a few seasons with the same team now....there are too many breaks with teams not racing a home match....fans can get out of the habit of going...there is so much more now competing for people's time.....even multi channel TV with non stop sport can stop people going out, especially when the speedway product on offer is not actually that good......basically it's just a completely different era out there and speedway with its present set up, team strengths, rider movement, rider availability and poor product in many cases is not going to compete 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Stars put bums on seats. Take a leaf out of nature's book and cut back to form strong new growth. Up the team building average, let the strong teams build and the dead wood fall away. It may look a lttle lean at first but it will trive eventually.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Up the averages and let the top teams bring on the top riders that thier money can buy, is a sure way to end the top flight of British speedway, because if that happens there will only be two or three teams left in that league as the others that can't afford to pay for top riders will have to call it a day or drop down into one big league. And how many supporters would there be who would want to follow thier team with only 3 teams in the league top stars or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Why will the poorer clubs have to close down? They never win anything now so what would be the difference for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Up the averages and let the top teams bring on the top riders that thier money can buy, is a sure way to end the top flight of British speedway, because if that happens there will only be two or three teams left in that league as the others that can't afford to pay for top riders will have to call it a day or drop down into one big league. And how many supporters would there be who would want to follow thier team with only 3 teams in the league top stars or not. not sure that watering down the sides is the right way either!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 not sure that watering down the sides is the right way either!! Water down the Sides and you water down the Product. The Sport is drowning now - any more watering will kill it. :sad: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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