Chewbacca Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Newcastle ended that season with a combined average of 54.13 and that was with a #7 averaging 1.71 The top 6 scored 19 full maximums and 16 paid maximums between them. Cookie is good but he's not Joe Owen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Nitro wasn't used in those days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutz Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) Well I think we've equalled the record (some may correct me) so our next meeting is Workington at home a week come Friday. As close as that match may be, I still think we've got enough to take the 3pts so that'll be the record ours. However, we're at Shielfield the next day in the KO Cup and I think that may prove to be a tough hunting ground for us. As for the comparison, it's impossible. The 1991 Hammers were a truly awesome team but limits were higher and riders were established - some with already high averages. The team we have this year are going about their business as a team - as Al Stewart has said and when one is having an off day, another is stepping up to the plate... Take yesterday... I'd have laughed if you'd have told me we'd win at Glasgow when Cookie only scores 7... The first time he's been out of double figures in 2 years (except the Ipswich debacle and a rain curtailed meeting vs Sheffield when he was on 9 out of 9 prior to his 4th ride)... But Sedge and Stevie both came to the fore with big scores. What I would say is everyone outside of Edinburgh are saying that practically every team year on year would beat this Edinburgh team... Maybe... However, it really doesn't say a lot for the rest of the league that we're beating does it?!! As for Cookie rolling??? Have a day off will ya's?! Maybe he does move at the start from time to time but there are others in the league that are far worse for it... He's also proved time and time again in the past 2 seasons that when he's behind, he can overtake as good as anyone... Edited July 7, 2014 by Nutz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Next to impossible to compare sides from year to year, let alone different eras. These topics usually appear during the winter when people are bored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 We're all bored of Edinburgh winning every week ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 We're all bored of Edinburgh winning every week ! I wouldn't say everyone i love being so smug it's great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Can't believe the negativity about the unbeaten run. Surely supporters will want to turn up in their droves to see if their team can be the first to end the run. or is it better to watch weak teams like Rye turn up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Ive got to be honest, I still look at this Edinburgh team and wonder how the hell they've gone this long unbeaten. If I'm honest I'm not sure they're that good, so how are they doing it? All credit to them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Ive got to be honest, I still look at this Edinburgh team and wonder how the hell they've gone this long unbeaten. If I'm honest I'm not sure they're that good, so how are they doing it? All credit to them!stevie finally showing what we all knew was in there has been massive.... He's won them most away meetings along with cook.Quite fortunate with injurys also.... But it's still a fantastic achievement, hats off. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Next to impossible to compare sides from year to year, let alone different eras. These topics usually appear during the winter when people are bored.My reasoning for feeling so confident that the current Edinburgh team would beat all the others mentioned.Rye House 2005 Danny King is doing well Edward Kennett is doing no better than so so Stuart Robson is doing well Steve Boxall is not doing very well, and the other 3 have retired. Arena Essex 1991 will all be in their 40's and 50's Hackney 1988 will all be at least mid forties now, and some older. Newcastle 1982 will all be in their 50's, or older. I feel their reaction times at the starting gate would put them at such a disadvantage, that the current Edinburgh team would win convincingly. ;-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) My reasoning for feeling so confident that the current Edinburgh team would beat all the others mentioned. Rye House 2005 Danny King is doing well Edward Kennett is doing no better than so so Stuart Robson is doing well Steve Boxall is not doing very well, and the other 3 have retired. Arena Essex 1991 will all be in their 40's and 50's Hackney 1988 will all be at least mid forties now, and some older. Newcastle 1982 will all be in their 50's, or older. I feel their reaction times at the starting gate would put them at such a disadvantage, that the current Edinburgh team would win convincingly. ;-) However, if the fixture was raced in 1982, then Newcastle would destroy a 2014 Edinburgh side who are still twinkles in the milkman’s eye. All the best Rob Edited July 7, 2014 by lucifer sam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 However, if the fixture was raced in 1982, then Newcastle would destroy a 2014 Edinburgh side who are still twinkles in the milkmans eye. All the best Rob Have you invented a time machine?You have been watching too much Back to the Future, and Dr Who Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Fortunately for the Edinburgh fans, this years team is not so good as to be running up massive scores week in, week out. I must admit to being a bit bored in 1982 watching the Diamonds knocking in 65+ every home match 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Well I think we've equalled the record (some may correct me) so our next meeting is Workington at home a week come Friday. As close as that match may be, I still think we've got enough to take the 3pts so that'll be the record ours. However, we're at Shielfield the next day in the KO Cup and I think that may prove to be a tough hunting ground for us. As for the comparison, it's impossible. The 1991 Hammers were a truly awesome team but limits were higher and riders were established - some with already high averages. The team we have this year are going about their business as a team - as Al Stewart has said and when one is having an off day, another is stepping up to the plate... Take yesterday... I'd have laughed if you'd have told me we'd win at Glasgow when Cookie only scores 7... The first time he's been out of double figures in 2 years (except the Ipswich debacle and a rain curtailed meeting vs Sheffield when he was on 9 out of 9 prior to his 4th ride)... But Sedge and Stevie both came to the fore with big scores. What I would say is everyone outside of Edinburgh are saying that practically every team year on year would beat this Edinburgh team... Maybe... However, it really doesn't say a lot for the rest of the league that we're beating does it?!! As for Cookie rolling??? Have a day off will ya's?! Maybe he does move at the start from time to time but there are others in the league that are far worse for it... He's also proved time and time again in the past 2 seasons that when he's behind, he can overtake as good as anyone... I took yesterday off back to normal today he does tend to have the occasional roller does he not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 When you have a genuine number 1 that can win 4-5 races away,gives you a bit boost and 1 good reserve who can take 6-7 rides -Worrell .Teams with an average Strength in depth teams need to produce consistent 2nd string performances every meeting due to lack of Heat winners.Race winners are what does it for me and Monarchs have 4riders who constantly win races most other teams don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner47 Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 Fortunately for the Edinburgh fans, this years team is not so good as to be running up massive scores week in, week out. I must admit to being a bit bored in 1982 watching the Diamonds knocking in 65+ every home match Good point, last time Edinburgh had a really good side didn't they almost go bust? I'm told that if Edinburgh are top or bottom the crowds don't change that much, so a really good side banging up big scores doesn't get rewarded through the turnstiles, is this still the case? If this is the case then narrow wins away and 10-20 pt wins at home should be affordable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 My reasoning for feeling so confident that the current Edinburgh team would beat all the others mentioned. Rye House 2005 Danny King is doing well Edward Kennett is doing no better than so so Stuart Robson is doing well Steve Boxall is not doing very well, and the other 3 have retired. Arena Essex 1991 will all be in their 40's and 50's Hackney 1988 will all be at least mid forties now, and some older. Newcastle 1982 will all be in their 50's, or older. I feel their reaction times at the starting gate would put them at such a disadvantage, that the current Edinburgh team would win convincingly. ;-) if you havent got anything of value worth saying then keep quiet. Your posts are bordering on pathetic and tiresome 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 How ironic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekimba Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 if you havent got anything of value worth saying then keep quiet. Your posts are bordering on pathetic and tiresome Get a sense of humour will you its harmless fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 Get a sense of humour will you its harmless fun nothing to do with a sense of humour just that its adding nothing to the debate to write sarcasm and try to be clever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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