T.N.T. Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 May not be in the near future but when you look at the land around Arlington, like Coventry at Brandon then you can see how much these sites would be worth to Housing Associations and money any owner would be crazy to turn down even if they loved the sport. http://www.eastbourneherald.co.uk/news/local/speedway-stadium-could-be-developed-for-housing-1-6158499 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 (edited) Did Dugard make the same threat when Terry Russell bought the promoting riders about 10 years ago? I dont get why you'd build houses on Eastbourne Speedway. There no end of empty fields for miles around the place that you could build on. Edited July 5, 2014 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymondbudd Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 It's brownfield land, much easier to gain permission and develop on than greenfield. Based on the numbers in the article, would you keep running speedway at 200k annual loss (with the hassle), or sell and bank £15-20m? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 It's brownfield land, much easier to gain permission and develop on than greenfield. Based on the numbers in the article, would you keep running speedway at 200k annual loss (with the hassle), or sell and bank £15-20m? That's a hard one to answer....for about 2 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike.Butler Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 and less begging letters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Back in 1998 the Witches fans had a little thing for a ticker tape celebration. At Eastbourne this was banned under the guise that the land was designated an area of outstanding natural beauty. Surely building would not be sanctioned in such a location? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophies Mate Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 I would be surprised if houses were built here several projects in and around Eastbourne have stopped as they cant sell the houses they have built. Then again if these house builders built more houses for first time buyers then maybe they'd have more success. If I'm honest it's not the first time this has come up and doubt it will be the last and seriously think they would struggle to get planning permission even though it is a brownfield site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 I would be surprised if houses were built here several projects in and around Eastbourne have stopped as they cant sell the houses they have built. Then again if these house builders built more houses for first time buyers then maybe they'd have more success. If I'm honest it's not the first time this has come up and doubt it will be the last and seriously think they would struggle to get planning permission even though it is a brownfield site. how is this a brownfield site? not sure of the exact meaning but theres no housing or factories 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 (edited) May not be in the near future but when you look at the land around Arlington, like Coventry at Brandon then you can see how much these sites would be worth to Housing Associations and money any owner would be crazy to turn down even if they loved the sport. http://www.eastbourneherald.co.uk/news/local/speedway-stadium-could-be-developed-for-housing-1-6158499 You could probably argue the same about the Abbey.. Back in 1998 the Witches fans had a little thing for a ticker tape celebration. At Eastbourne this was banned under the guise that the land was designated an area of outstanding natural beauty. Cough splutter.. Hark, i hear the sound of a lesser spotted Dugard... Edited July 6, 2014 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Up Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Did Dugard make the same threat when Terry Russell bought the promoting riders about 10 years ago? I dont get why you'd build houses on Eastbourne Speedway. There no end of empty fields for miles around the place that you could build on. Uncle Bob doesn't own the fields for miles around. Just the ones around the track. It was only a matter of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike.Butler Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 (edited) on the opposite side of the road there is a field in which there is a building that contains the plant equipment for maintaining the track/stadium. It has a big sign with the Dugard name on it. A public footpath runs through what is a large field, assume from this if he owns the whole field. Edited July 6, 2014 by Mike.Butler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 on the opposite side of the road there is a field in which there is a building that contains the plant equipment for maintaining the track/stadium. It has a big sign with the Dugard name on it. A public footpath runs through what is a large field, assume from this if he owns the whole field. So who's right out of you two, or are you both guessing.. I would side with the later.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldeneagle Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 It's brownfield land, much easier to gain permission and develop on than greenfield. Based on the numbers in the article, would you keep running speedway at 200k annual loss (with the hassle), or sell and bank £15-20m? Last time he tried for planning permission it was refused as the council wouldn't allow major development west of the A22 That was about 2007 give or take a year or two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruiser McHuge Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Have Eastbourne ever had really good crowds ?.....I know back in 1992 under the old Wimbledon promotion the crowds were pretty dire and the riders were told to basically half their wages mid season or they would shut there and then...and that's over 20 years ago...so things don't seem to improved much in that time It is quite remote for housing though isn't it..my memories are off driving past field after field before dropping onto the stadium in the middle of nowhere, like Berrington Lough...might be my memory playing tricks though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Uncle Bob doesn't own the fields for miles around. Just the ones around the track. It was only a matter of time. Yeah, so what does that tell you. Bob thinks he's going to get permission to build houses on his speedway track but for years there have been empty fields that people must have surely at some point thought, "you know what, I'm going to build houses here and make my millions" but they haven't. Why? Bob isn't some canny businessman whos just suddenly had this really amazing and unique idea to build houses in Arlington! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Barrett Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Trouble is, if you go past the stadium, take the next turn left and go on for about a mile, there is a new development of about 10 houses in what was a field in the middle of nowhere! The main reason for refusal back then was the potential substantial increase of traffic on a narrow country lane.Since then there has been a massive increase in housing developments in the Hailsham area, including a proposal for 1300 homes just north of the town, on what was farmland. Presumably the council may have altered their views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Heard a rumour yesterday that its looking like a sell for development (no idea how reliable it was but Speedway people were involved). I really hope that isnt the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Heard a rumour yesterday that its looking like a sell for development (no idea how reliable it was but Speedway people were involved). I really hope that isnt the truth. If its your contacts then id be a litlle sceptical.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 If its your contacts then id be a litlle sceptical.. unlike some i never claim to have any. And if i did i wouldn't go bragging about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjolnir Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 I really hope Eastbourne speedway continues after the end of the season. I've always really enjoyed my visits there since I was a kid, and I don't want to see any clubs disappear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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