Panthers89 Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 Wrong call for calling it off imo saying about the poor forecast was meant to stop raining at 7.... Then the call was made to call it off? Seen the track alot worse and why open the gates at all?? Says alot as when bunyan just turning up at 7.20?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) This surprises you ???The promotion held the gates closed until the referee declared the meeting would go ahead. As soon as the referee postponed the meeting the gates were closed. Peterborough are bringing in three Danes, a Czech and a Polish based rider. A call- off at that time incurs pretty much all the fixed costs except the riders pay, and mileage for both sides. You honestly think we postponed willingly or hastily? I understand for you Chris, and maybe others, this is an opportunity to have a dig at Mick, but I suggest you bear in mind that neither Mick nor I are Promoters at Peterborough and have no influence over decisions such as tonight's, although had the meeting been at Coventry the timeline would have been exactly the same. The call-off tonight has cost a great deal of money, hard work and aggravation - like you all I'm a speedway fan and expected to be watching a cracking meeting in balmy weather, not to be at home typing this and worrying about when the meeting can be restaged. I repeat, if any of you think this meeting was called of with pre-meditation you are 100% wrong. Feel free to contact me off-list should you wish to do so - info@peterboroughpanthers.co Edited July 8, 2014 by NeilWatson 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainman Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 Wrong call for calling it off imo saying about the poor forecast was meant to stop raining at 7.... Then the call was made to call it off? Seen the track alot worse and why open the gates at all?? Says alot as when bunyan just turning up at 7.20?? he was there at 6:30 i saw him in the pits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 The Sky Sports Garrity love in at the British Final would've inflated his ego to such an extent I'm surprised he can find a helmet to fit. Maybe that's why he thumped Derek Sneddon with it. Ned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 Well his van with 3 people came in at 7.20 so mustn't have been in there then, bit weird how his van turned up after him then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhamboy66 Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 i can see Len cashing in on him next season, and I don't blame himFor me his (Garrity) attitude since March has been shocking, i think this draft lark has done untold damage. Instances this season where a riders three teams all due to ride on the same day, no real top flight experience being gained, the PL is far harder for them to score big in simply because they are their hardest meetings. As for Garrity this season has seen his real side, doesn't give a toss about the club that saved his career and life from going down the pan. His body language at Rye is as bad as i have ever seen, his machinery for Rye has been sub NL standard the boy is a disgrace to his profession.Garrity said in an interview he loves Wolverhampton and my money is on him ending up there next year, Silver needs to re invest any cash he makes on a deal in the team. Too much deadwood in the side. Quite frankly the only one i would like to see retained is Edward Kennett as his average should be far more manageable As for Bunyan turning up late he seems to me another that is going through the motions and should be shown the door ASAP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainman Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 Bunyan wasnt late turning up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) Well his van with 3 people came in at 7.20 so mustn't have been in there then, bit weird how his van turned up after him then.Same three blokes I saw in a Bunyan van at Leicester Services last week. I think he has business interests outside speedway. They could've been employees. Edited July 8, 2014 by Shadders 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 For me his (Garrity) attitude since March has been shocking, i think this draft lark has done untold damage. Instances this season where a riders three teams all due to ride on the same day, no real top flight experience being gained, the PL is far harder for them to score big in simply because they are their hardest meetings. As for Garrity this season has seen his real side, doesn't give a toss about the club that saved his career and life from going down the pan. His body language at Rye is as bad as i have ever seen, his machinery for Rye has been sub NL standard the boy is a disgrace to his profession. Garrity said in an interview he loves Wolverhampton and my money is on him ending up there next year, Silver needs to re invest any cash he makes on a deal in the team. Too much deadwood in the side. Quite frankly the only one i would like to see retained is Edward Kennett as his average should be far more manageable As for Bunyan turning up late he seems to me another that is going through the motions and should be shown the door ASAP. i'm all in favour of the fast track system, but it should have been introduced at PL level this season. It has been the final nail in the coffin for the EL this year, with many fans voting with their feet. At lakeside last Friday wolves lined up with woffinden, R/R, three double uppers and two Fast trackers, absolute madness. Jon Cook was raving after the meeting saying what a great show they put on!. The worrying thing is, I think the promoters actually believe this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 i'm all in favour of the fast track system, but it should have been introduced at PL level this season. It has been the final nail in the coffin for the EL this year, with many fans voting with their feet. At lakeside last Friday wolves lined up with woffinden, R/R, three double uppers and two Fast trackers, absolute madness. Jon Cook was raving after the meeting saying what a great show they put on!. The worrying thing is, I think the promoters actually believe this!Fast track was only brought in to cut costs and keep the Elite League alive..... For nowJohn Cook isn't the only one who's deluded. There are one or two of these "fast trackers" who are starting to believe they're better than they actually are. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oafski Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 Thanks to the Panthers Fans who posted the short cuts from the A1. We used them both ways and so easy. Been coming up for the BMF Show for several years but our first time for Speedway was in March for the Rockets visit. Shame about the rain off tonight, we arrived at 1850hrs were admitted, bought our excellent Fish and Chips and had just sat down to enjoy them when the announcement was made. As a venue the Showground makes Rye House look a bit shabby and I am surprised at the lack of local support especially as it's only a Tenner for Old Gits like to get in. Wish I lived nearer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 The promotion held the gates closed until the referee declared the meeting would go ahead. As soon as the referee postponed the meeting the gates were closed. Peterborough are bringing in three Danes, a Czech and a Polish based rider. A call- off at that time incurs pretty much all the fixed costs except the riders pay, and mileage for both sides. You honestly think we postponed willingly or hastily? I understand for you Chris, and maybe others, this is an opportunity to have a dig at Mick, but I suggest you bear in mind that neither Mick nor I are Promoters at Peterborough and have no influence over decisions such as tonight's, although had the meeting been at Coventry the timeline would have been exactly the same. The call-off tonight has cost a great deal of money, hard work and aggravation - like you all I'm a speedway fan and expected to be watching a cracking meeting in balmy weather, not to be at home typing this and worrying about when the meeting can be restaged. I repeat, if any of you think this meeting was called of with pre-meditation you are 100% wrong. Feel free to contact me off-list should you wish to do so - info@peterboroughpanthers.co did you refund the fans then?? Because you don't seem to mention them in your post?... Just the pity that it is for the panthers?... After all they the fans are the most important aspect of any club surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Stummings Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 Re the post about the fast track riders in the Elite League. It was put forward,so I believe, it would fast track riders would go into the Premier League, but the PL promotes chucked it out and the EL took on the mantle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PE7Panther Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 did you refund the fans then?? Because you don't seem to mention them in your post?... Just the pity that it is for the panthers?... After all they the fans are the most important aspect of any club surely? unless my memory is paying tricks, the last time this happened Panthers were doing refunds at the office upon request. In any case tickets will be vailid for the rearranged meeting. If you can't make it next time I'd like to think you'd get a refund if you contact the club. Maybe Neil Watson will confirm (or otherwise) on here..... Thanks to the Panthers Fans who posted the short cuts from the A1. We used them both ways and so easy. Been coming up for the BMF Show for several years but our first time for Speedway was in March for the Rockets visit. Shame about the rain off tonight, we arrived at 1850hrs were admitted, bought our excellent Fish and Chips and had just sat down to enjoy them when the announcement was made. As a venue the Showground makes Rye House look a bit shabby and I am surprised at the lack of local support especially as it's only a Tenner for Old Gits like to get in. Wish I lived nearer. I'm only 5-10 mins mins drive away (Yaxley, PE7). I'd nipped home and got back to the EoES just as cars started to stream out. Gutted obviously - but I feel for you making a long wasted journey. Anyway, yeah always come in via Alwalton village, and back to the A1 the same way. Hope you can make the rearranged meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Hammer Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 For me his (Garrity) attitude since March has been shocking, i think this draft lark has done untold damage. Instances this season where a riders three teams all due to ride on the same day, no real top flight experience being gained, the PL is far harder for them to score big in simply because they are their hardest meetings. As for Garrity this season has seen his real side, doesn't give a toss about the club that saved his career and life from going down the pan. His body language at Rye is as bad as i have ever seen, his machinery for Rye has been sub NL standard the boy is a disgrace to his profession. Garrity said in an interview he loves Wolverhampton and my money is on him ending up there next year, Silver needs to re invest any cash he makes on a deal in the team. Too much deadwood in the side. Quite frankly the only one i would like to see retained is Edward Kennett as his average should be far more manageable As for Bunyan turning up late he seems to me another that is going through the motions and should be shown the door ASAP. Interesting that Garrity is not taking part in Luke's testimonial this Sunday "Jason Garrity (British GP) and Mathieu Tresarrieu (World Longtrack Grand Prix) are unfortunately unavailable for the meeting, but the remaining Silver Ski Rockets are programmed for the event." http://www.ryehouserockets.co/news.php?extend.843.6 I'm going to be able to do Cardiff and Luke's testimonial! - Perhaps Garrity is upsetting his teammates with his attitude, and this could partly explain our poor results this year (Hope I'm reading too much into this) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odds On Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Says alot as when bunyan just turning up at 7.20?? You are a complete and utter mug, I parked right next to the van and of the three people getting out none were Bunyan or his mechanic, Bunyan was in the pits, perhaps he had sold his van because the the one he turns up in at Rye is not sign written. How people get the wrong end of the stick, put 2 + 2 together and get 5, then crucify a rider with no real substance to do so. I thought the rain off was the right decision, nobody wanted to call it off and would hazard a guess it will leave the Panthers promotion out of pocket? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 For me his (Garrity) attitude since March has been shocking, i think this draft lark has done untold damage. Instances this season where a riders three teams all due to ride on the same day, no real top flight experience being gained, the PL is far harder for them to score big in simply because they are their hardest meetings. As for Garrity this season has seen his real side, doesn't give a toss about the club that saved his career and life from going down the pan. His body language at Rye is as bad as i have ever seen, his machinery for Rye has been sub NL standard the boy is a disgrace to his profession. Garrity said in an interview he loves Wolverhampton and my money is on him ending up there next year, Silver needs to re invest any cash he makes on a deal in the team. Too much deadwood in the side. Quite frankly the only one i would like to see retained is Edward Kennett as his average should be far more manageable As for Bunyan turning up late he seems to me another that is going through the motions and should be shown the door ASAP. Ha Ha ha, Bunyan was at the track at 5.30, don't think he'd be late for his beloved EOES, his other van being used by two young NZ riders arrived at around 7.30, but please feel free to show him the door if you want, his other van will be at Sheffield Thursday, sure you can read something into that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 You are a complete and utter mug, I parked right next to the van and of the three people getting out none were Bunyan or his mechanic, Bunyan was in the pits, perhaps he had sold his van because the the one he turns up in at Rye is not sign written. How people get the wrong end of the stick, put 2 + 2 together and get 5, then crucify a rider with no real substance to do so. I thought the rain off was the right decision, nobody wanted to call it off and would hazard a guess it will leave the Panthers promotion out of pocket? See my post about 3 posts under the one I wrote saying must of got it wrong then..... You complete and utter mug..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odds On Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 yep you got it totally and utterly wrong, its always good to recognise one's mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Brown Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) I understand for you Chris, and maybe others, this is an opportunity to have a dig at Mick, but I suggest you bear in mind that neither Mick nor I are Promoters at Peterborough and have no influence over decisions such as tonight's, although had the meeting been at Coventry the timeline would have been exactly the same. I repeat, if any of you think this meeting was called of with pre-meditation you are 100% wrong. Feel free to contact me off-list should you wish to do so - info@peterboroughpanthers.co Neil, of course I was not there, I don't go to speedway any more.................................and yes the Horton's had a major part in that so I am sure to a degree you understand my issues with them being involved in speedway. Problem is having a pop at them is generally not that difficult because its a non stop supply of ammunition Nobody is suggesting it was a premeditated call off but the facts are that money is taken from supporters and NOT returned a few minutes later when a meeting which sounds like it had little chance of going ahead had its gates opened and money taken. Personally I think the concept that money is not returned when the meeting is not staged is immoral and no promoter should be doing it. I don't care whether the BSPA rules allow it or not, the concept of taking £15 or whatever it costs from a supporter and providing nothing in return is unacceptable and the pitiful rules which then gives you a limited number of options to use that ticket is unacceptable and promoters should give supporters the option of their money back on the night because that is the right thing to do rather than hiding behind BSPA rules. That is not a dig at Horton or any other individual promoter, I think they should all be ashamed that they keep people's money. Bank's are robbers but even they don't expect to have money without paying interest on it. Yes the promoter incurrs costs but I can see no reason why any supporter should contribute to the cash flow issue this causes, that is part of owning a club. Had last night been highly profitable nobody shares the gains with the fans At the end of the day only Mick Horton and those close to him know whether there was really a need to open the gates and take money, I can't say one way or the other. I guess a plea for more fans and more money coupled with a meeting where the gates are open and then the meeting is called off just make you wonder...................possibly unfairly but when it comes to the Horton's I guess I do not hold a balanced view Edited July 9, 2014 by Chris Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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