thecoombdog Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 I have a good idea lol. If there is a 8 Team EL next season then why don't we do what Poland and Sweden do and have all the EL fixtures on the same night every week. Fair enough fans might only get to see there team at Home once a fortnight but this way the attendances would be greater and who knows maybe some of the big boys might want to come over as they would know what night they would race on every week. What do you think? You chat sh1te at times but this point is something I agree with. I think speedway fans are stuck in the past wanting speedway every week. People cant afford it these days. Really believe one night a week and home every other week is the way forward. I would rather see some quality every other week than weekly meetings full of guests, RR and NL riders. I know this will get loads of negative comments from the old school fans but speedway has to move with the times and IMO weekly home Elite meetings dont pay. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 It's not me suggesting they should. Have another read of GRW's list, #3. I'm not against the two set nights for EL racing, Friday and Saturday, to allow parents to bring their kids without having to worry about school the next day. kids go football night games, so why speedway any different? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 It is obvious that the sport is struggling financially, many fans have been lost over the last few years due to the continual 'watering down' of the product whilst admission prices have gone up - a disastrous recipe ! All clubs ready to 'give it a go' in 2015 should set a maximum pay limit per point, ie, pay what they can afford, rather than what they'd like to afford (a global one hopefully) If this means the likes of Hans, Batch and Killer etc don't ride in the EL (or amalgamated EL/PL) who cares - their priorities understandably are elsewhere. Perhaps this would also make the racing more competitive and exciting as a result.. The only downside I can see is perhaps there are not enough riders to go around 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 I don't think there will be an EL in 2015. Surely with the attendances most teams get it cant be financially possible to run. There will, and will always be a top level of racing. RIP Elite League Speedway!!! I wonder how many seasons this line has been trotted out and how many more to come?? I predict another 60. All teams riding on the same night requires, by definition, a squad system. Squad system and same night racing the ONLY way to save the EL as we know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Blachshadow Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) There will, and will always be a top level of racing. I wonder how many seasons this line has been trotted out and how many more to come?? I predict another 60. Squad system and same night racing the ONLY way to save the EL as we know it. Hmm. You predict another 60 years of Elite League speedway yet post it'll need a squad system and same night racing. I predict you'll see neither. Edited July 1, 2014 by Vincent Blackshadow 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) Hmm. You predict another 60 years of Elite League speedway yet post it'll need a squad system and same night racing. I predict you'll see neither. I predict the EL will continue to evolve season after season............................... as it has been doing for donkeys years now. Squads and same night racing will help us fall in line with Poland/Sweden who have good strong leagues. - like we all want. Its a suggestion. If not we will continue the same path we are treading now. A weak league with some of the strongest riders in the World STILL in it. Edited July 1, 2014 by stevebrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 8 team league 2 home 2 away , 6 man teams to cut costs , handicap the double , more brits , standard 1-6 riders no doubling up clashes extra reserve races , second half involving the reserve riders bruce cribb to bring his ice bike out of retirement to race against standard bikes in the interval ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 It is obvious that the sport is struggling financially, many fans have been lost over the last few years due to the continual 'watering down' of the product whilst admission prices have gone up - a disastrous recipe ! All clubs ready to 'give it a go' in 2015 should set a maximum pay limit per point, ie, pay what they can afford, rather than what they'd like to afford (a global one hopefully) If this means the likes of Hans, Batch and Killer etc don't ride in the EL (or amalgamated EL/PL) who cares - their priorities understandably are elsewhere. Perhaps this would also make the racing more competitive and exciting as a result.. The only downside I can see is perhaps there are not enough riders to go around hate that phrase "enough riders to go round"..we cant go on sharing riders, its the biggest turn off in speedway for me.. we MUST get back to having 7 riders per team as a starting point..i detest this poxy sharing lark 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 There n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) I have a good idea lol. If there is a 8 Team EL next season then why don't we do what Poland and Sweden do and have all the EL fixtures on the same night every week. Fair enough fans might only get to see there team at Home once a fortnight but this way the attendances would be greater and who knows maybe some of the big boys might want to come over as they would know what night they would race on every week. What do you think? I think once a fortnight is about right,with teams having regular 1/7 line ups not multiple guests double uppers (ect). Edited July 2, 2014 by sidney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenspoon Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 What makes anyone think that the Premier League would welcome either Birmingham or Eastbourne into their ranks. There are already enough teams in the Premier and to add two more would make the fixture load untenable, as they have other competitions in the season as well as the league, not like the Elite with just one boring competition, where if you don't make the Play-Offs your season is over. The Premier league may have problems of its own, but they could turn round and tell the Elite to go and stew in the mess they have made for themselves. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMMER57 Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 I think I count as an old f**t fan watching it for 40ys I also think some good comments have been made 8 teams home and away break in the season why not but for alot of older and new fans want a team of riders they know not chopping and changing all the time. As some one else said 15 heats 7 riders in a team and a b****y good night of speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 It's not me suggesting they should. Have another read of GRW's list, #3. I'm not against the two set nights for EL racing, Friday and Saturday, to allow parents to bring their kids without having to worry about school the next day. If the stadiums are avaialble (dogs on Thursdays?) Thursday & Friday should work. Saturday would present problems due to GP's and Polish clubs insisting on their riders being avaialble for practice - which unless the EL clubs match the pay on offer (not something they should do given the financial situation of UK speedway) we should accept the riders will need to be in Poland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 What makes anyone think that the Premier League would welcome either Birmingham or Eastbourne into their ranks. There are already enough teams in the Premier and to add two more would make the fixture load untenable, as they have other competitions in the season as well as the league, not like the Elite with just one boring competition, where if you don't make the Play-Offs your season is over. The Premier league may have problems of its own, but they could turn round and tell the Elite to go and stew in the mess they have made for themselves. Hopefully they wouldn't be as selfish as you and would prefer to see tracks stay open. If the PL accepted a couple more tracks it could perhaps do away with the nonsensical 'extra' fixtures. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 If the stadiums are avaialble (dogs on Thursdays?) Thursday & Friday should work. Saturday would present problems due to GP's and Polish clubs insisting on their riders being avaialble for practice - which unless the EL clubs match the pay on offer (not something they should do given the financial situation of UK speedway) we should accept the riders will need to be in Poland. Yes, makes sense but Friday UK meetings are being affected by riders being required to attend practice for Saturday FIM events Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 I hope so but I just cant see how promoters can make money anymore. If the promoters are not making money then there is no point in running just to break even at the end of the season or for some promoters to make losses. Promoters must make some money, and that applies to PL/NL as well. Lets not forget that several PL clubs have declared worrying times money wise in recent seasons so it doesn't just apply to the EL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Yes, makes sense but Friday UK meetings are being affected by riders being required to attend practice for Saturday FIM event Time to get rid of GP riders and foreigners who dont want to ride here as their priority , Miss 1 meeting for an overseas commitment goodbye ... close the door on the Australian training scheme and get back to regular speedway each week without guests making up for absentees , never mind single race nights nights and pandering to BSI , look after British Speedway first , and let the GP be a bonus for TV viewing not the tail wagging the dog 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) What makes anyone think that the Premier League would welcome either Birmingham or Eastbourne into their ranks. There are already enough teams in the Premier and to add two more would make the fixture load untenable, as they have other competitions in the season as well as the league, not like the Elite with just one boring competition, where if you don't make the Play-Offs your season is over. The Premier league may have problems of its own, but they could turn round and tell the Elite to go and stew in the mess they have made for themselves. The PL promoters have been doing that for years - and there are more of them to outvote any EL proposals for the benefit of the sport overall - or just to save the EL in any form!! I believe the EL (6 to 8 teams only) should separate from the BSPA and be run by someone like BSI or similar, with a major sponsor such as Monster or Red Bull and TV coverage guaranteed, to get the top riders back. The BSPA should then be purely for PL/NL clubs. EL clubs could also run a PL/NL team - at their choice - if there was a need for more fixtures in their respective rental agreements with their stadium owners. No doubling up and maybe only limited crossover of riders in the respective leagues eg Only the 3 lowest averaged EL riders allowed to ride in their PL/NL team. Edited July 2, 2014 by Skidder1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Part two of the cookie plan is that for 2015, the MDL is to be rebranded as the EL, all riders are to have Team suits, and matching bike covers, admission will be limited to £20, and the crowds will love it.!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Blachshadow Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 kids go football night games, so why speedway any different? Well yes, kids do go to evening football matches, but not as many as to Saturday or Sunday afternoon games. The object of the exercise has to be to get more people through the gates and I know a person or two who stopped going when their kids got to school age and I'd bet many others on here do too. For some I suppose cost is/was the factor but for others it's school the next day. One of speedway's problems is getting lapsed supporters back through the turnstiles so giving them less reasons to lapse has to be a step forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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