Leicester -v- Belle Vue Saturday 5 July 2014

[Rob B]

Another poor Belle Vue away performance mainly from Cook & Worrall again. Terrible meeting, couple of passes going into 3rd bend then strung out, couldn't watch that every week.

[mikec]

Another poor Belle Vue away performance mainly from Cook & Worrall again. Terrible meeting, couple of passes going into 3rd bend then strung out, couldn't watch that every week.

Completely agree about Cook & Worrall Rob. It's like neither have pushed on this season - though both got plenty of ability, would definitely stick by them for 2015.

 

It's such a shame, really frustrating as Nicholls, Palm Toft & Nielsen have been terrific, fulfilled their roles.

 

Just booked hotel for Lakeside away - surprise away win anyone?? ;-)

[weatherwatcher]

From the interview with Jason Atwood. He was not a happy man. He said some of the riders have to stand back and take a good look at themselves and it is now time for changes. So who will go. I say Cook & Worrel for 2 definates. Lets see how soon he announces the changes.

[lionstigersnotbearsohmy]

So the usual conflicting reports on here and the Facebook page. Obviously a good result for the Lions. Let's hope they kick on from here. Was there any decent action on the track to set the pulse racing, or was it as poor as some have suggested?

[woodenspoon]

Yet another woeful away performance from Belle Vue, thank goodness there are only a few away meetings left. All BV need now is for the winning bubble to burst at home, (perhaps Monday) and BV will be back at the bottom of the league for yet another year.

 

If anyone should go it is Jason Attwood, Worrall is unlikely to be fired as he is one of BV's few assets, and I do not see Cook going as long as his home form is good.

 

Feel for the poor die hard fans that travel away with BV, to be let down so often, they are definitely martyrs to the cause, and these days it isn't cheap with petrol food etc to travel to away meetings.

[barrow boy]

To the very few posters who have expressed their concerns that due to the track Leicester are losing fans hands over fist, did you hear Nicolai Klindt say that he was very pleased to have joined such a good set up and that he was amazed to ride in front of so many people.

[P T Preece]

We went to this as we were planning to go if the Brummies had been there, boring, Cant see myself going here again unless the Brummies re-surface this season.

Its such a great place to watch and only an hour from me, nice stadium officals and quite a good team on paper but the racing is over after the first turn, unless somebody makes a mistake or an engine failure.

Josh bates is coming on well looked very determined, full action rider.

BV were poor, Cookie goes well around here normally after his first race win he dropped off, Harris the usual and Perry tried hard, Worrall poor and Toft not bad, Nicholls tried and Greenwood did his best. Leicester were much the better team and an all round performance on the night its just a shame the track dosent live up to the team.

[mrcts]

To the very few posters who have expressed their concerns that due to the track Leicester are losing fans hands over fist, did you hear Nicolai Klindt say that he was very pleased to have joined such a good set up and that he was amazed to ride in front of so many people.

he's hardly going to say anything different is he?

[ABS]

To the very few posters who have expressed their concerns that due to the track Leicester are losing fans hands over fist, did you hear Nicolai Klindt say that he was very pleased to have joined such a good set up and that he was amazed to ride in front of so many people.

Well at least he had the good grace to use the word "ride" as opposed to the word "race". Another borefest last night, I'm afraid, even allowing for how poor BV were.

[Leicester Lion]

To the very few posters who have expressed their concerns that due to the track Leicester are losing fans hands over fist, did you hear Nicolai Klindt say that he was very pleased to have joined such a good set up and that he was amazed to ride in front of so many people.

If he can get away with rolling at the start as much as he would like, he'll be a massive success at the ultimate gaters' paradise.

[wandersome]

watching on bet365 last night had me wondering. That's the 2nd meeting in a row that i do not recall one single pass. I don't actually recall having seen one genuine pass all season although it has to be said i've only watched the ben fund and the bet365 broadcasts.

 

Has there been a genuine pass at Elite league level at BP this season... Maybe a question for Ballinger if he's compiling a best of dvd?

[ABS]

If he can get away with rolling at the start as much as he would like, he'll be a massive success at the ultimate gaters' paradise.

Good point - why was the Start Marshall apparently only concerned with how the BV riders were lining up at the tapes? Is this the norm?

[lionking]

How can you say there wasn't one genuine pass ?

Without even thinking you have got

Mads on Nicholls

Clegg on Greenwood

Buzz on Harris

You have always struck me as someone whole speaks sense most the time but when it comes to the track you exaggerate excessively.

watching on bet365 last night had me wondering. That's the 2nd meeting in a row that i do not recall one single pass. I don't actually recall having seen one genuine pass all season although it has to be said i've only watched the ben fund and the bet365 broadcasts.

 

Has there been a genuine pass at Elite league level at BP this season... Maybe a question for Ballinger if he's compiling a best of dvd?

[Shale Searcher]

If volty says the meeting had no passing, then the meeting had no passing!!

Come on peeps, why on earth would he say their was no passing? If their wasn't??

 

It was a simple copy/paste statement from someone who always says the same thing, week on week..

The meeting actually contained some high class moves, Buckowski impressed with his turn 4 pass on Bomber, and also his very aggressive move in turn 2/3 to move both Aces riders off the inside to allow Mads to blast underneath them both..

 

Josh continues to improve week on week and needs to build in some upper body strength......

 

Simon Stead is looking much better now as well, he's also looking physically stronger and very focused, something that I believe will stand him in good stead! (Pardon the pun)

[Arson fire]

Good point - why was the Start Marshall apparently only concerned with how the BV riders were lining up at the tapes? Is this the norm?

sure I've read on here a few times there's been issues with the start Marshall and opposing riders?? Maybe wrong??

He posts on here doesn't he??

Edited July 6, 2014 by Arson fire

[Rob B]

How can you say there wasn't one genuine pass ?

Without even thinking you have got

Mads on Nicholls

Clegg on Greenwood

Buzz on Harris

You have always struck me as someone whole speaks sense most the time but when it comes to the track you exaggerate excessively.

 

Think he means after the first lap, they were all passes going into third bend first lap, after that it was strung out unless someone made a serious mistake.

[BTFC LION]

Think he means after the first lap, they were all passes going into third bend first lap, after that it was strung out unless someone made a serious mistake.

That sounds like most other tracks. Not just a Leicester problem.

[Shale Searcher]

Think we need a proper definition of "A PASS" in Speedway......

Not sure that "a rider gaining a race position, by overtaking an under power rider, that is not making a mistake, and must not be on the first lap, and must involve 2 or more riders of completely equal ability, without a home advantage in favour of the rider completing the pass, providing the track is in perfect condition, and in no way influenced the rider/s being passed or making the pass.

 

That must be the modern day definition of an overtake in Speedway....

[wandersome]

That sounds like most other tracks. Not just a Leicester problem.

 

The problem Leicester has that no other track i ever seen in my lifetime has is that it has only one racing line. You, Shalesearcher, Weatherwatcher, BTFC and TMW must be able to see that. It's not that hard to understand or see, surely. Because there is only one line the only pass you can make is by the riding in front messing up.. I don't think it's rocket science. To make out the there are genuine passes and then mention a non pass where a rider, although close, had the lead all the way down the back straight and and all around bend 3/4, or else mentioning a pass made between two Novices does not, i'm afraid, make a point valid. 4 riders entering the first bend at BP and finding position as the drag out onto the back straight is not what i or mostly everyone i've ever spoken to would call a genuine speedway pass. But there go, each to there own i guess.

[BTFC LION]

I do understand your point, but the track is not the only one that is like that. I have watched loads on 365 this year, and most seem to be the same, so I am saying its not just a Leicester problem as many would have you believe. Would you not say that a rider putting pressure on the one in front, forcing him into a mistake, would not be a pass then?