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Wolverhampton V Swindon Monday 30th June


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No you can't blame Killer and Yes if it wasn't for young Steve then I really think we would be 10th.

Could try to get Hans back.

I was thinking the same only took 15 Heats but we got there lol.

 

Took 30 Heats as they both got maximums the last time we went their this season.

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After Batch and Kildemand's performances in the GP I am quietly confident of taking 3 points tonight.

 

The boys let you down then!

 

 

Once again, if you are in any doubt as to why speedway in this country simply will never grow, you only have to listen to the presentation at Wolverhampton tonight.

 

It's the build up to the start of an 'extreme' sport and you've just got a doddering old announcer giving out 'dedications'. Followed by the 'Whose cheering for Tai Woffinden".. "Oh no you can do better than that... Whose cheering for Tai Woffinden"... cue muted cheer of same level as before "Ah that's better".

 

Utterly cringeworthy and dated. As it was 20 years ago.

 

 

To be fair Porkie is great entertainment. WHERE IS OUR PORKIE????? :nono:

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Think we all expected more of a challenge from the guys of the moment and that should have truly inspired the Robins. However their league form is so indifferent. Batchelor seems more happy to look after team partners instead of transforming that Danish form and chase fellow heat leaders. He just doesn't seem all that bothered or good enough.

Kildemand likewise was plain average besides his easiest heat tactical win. Yet another rider not bothering to finish a race in heat 13. Perhaps if you tried harder you wouldn't be so far adrift. :icon_smile_clown:

Heat 8 was the turning point for both clubs IMHO - a 5-1 for the Robins (and they were capable) would have turned the match but the indifferent Wells/Proctor partnership came good when it mattered.

Not sure if we were that much better or the Robins just plain average? Probably both if i`m honest.

Very little to get excited about racing wise and a bit of a stop start meeting early on.

Not the most exciting meeting i have watched this season.

 

WOLVES

 

WOFFY - Back to his best with some excellent team riding. 5/5 MOTM

JACOB - won the races he was meant to and challenged Kildemand in heat 1. 3/5

WELLS - Did his job in heat 8 but struggled in the other heats 1.5/5

TY - A bit of everything from Ty tonight. His easiest heat and vital heat 14 turned out to be his worst meaning pressure back on the big boys in Heat 15. Remains a bit of a concern. 2/5

PIOTR - super quick, Made Woffy look like a slow coach. Had some bike problems in Heat 15 that put pay to his maximum. Back to the Piotr we love. 4.5/5

JOE - Improved on last week but had no answer to one of the Drafts finests. 2/5

TOM - much better tho looks a bit of a liability on a bike! Certainly battling hard for his points. 2.5/5

 

ROBINS

Kildemand - a rather off key night. Expected more but the entertainer must have been on a break. 1.5/5

North - Was this the same rider that scored ten last time out? 2 falls. one in a winning position. Ordinary. 0.5/5

Morris - was at least worth more points for effort put in. 2/5

Gustaffson - got better as the meeting wore on. 3/5

Batchelor - the usual league performance, very ordinary and nondescript. 2/5

Worrall - Star man for the Robins and beat Proctor. 4/5

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Seeing how woeful the Wolves were last week, I imagine this would be a much closer affair with the Robins getting at least a point. But yet again, my predictability was way off. It seems the Robins performance was subdued and the Wolves bounced back with a vengeance.

 

 

Agree PK has been winding me up all night by rolling at the starts. PK is just punishing himself all night.

 

Agree next season either Batch or PK need to go and we need to get a proven EL No.1 in. Batch and PK are both like No.5s in my opinion.

 

Some on here have said about proper No.1's and that Swindon don't feel they are strong in that department. With the current state of our league racing, Both Killer and Batch are top riders and could easily fill a no.1 spot. They have the ability to beat any rival, Probably their mind-set needs addressing. and that's all about motivation.

 

But don't kid yourself they're not good enough, the showing in the SGP at the weekend proves they are.

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Seeing how woeful the Wolves were last week, I imagine this would be a much closer affair with the Robins getting at least a point. But yet again, my predictability was way off. It seems the Robins performance was subdued and the Wolves bounced back with a vengeance.

 

 

 

Some on here have said about proper No.1's and that Swindon don't feel they are strong in that department. With the current state of our league racing, Both Killer and Batch are top riders and could easily fill a no.1 spot. They have the ability to beat any rival, Probably their mind-set needs addressing. and that's all about motivation.

 

But don't kid yourself they're not good enough, the showing in the SGP at the weekend proves they are.

They are both good enough & in my view are both concentrating on individual stuff this season & Poland & I for one don't blame them for that.

 

Both would've had to have 10 point averages for this Swindon team to have a chance of making the play offs.

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They are both good enough & in my view are both concentrating on individual stuff this season & Poland & I for one don't blame them for that.

 

Both would've had to have 10 point averages for this Swindon team to have a chance of making the play offs.

 

Yeah, I hear what you say, but you cant hold those two riders responsible for the inadequacies of the rest of the team.....That Buck stops with the Manager's Selections, Team Spirit and Motivation ......

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Yeah, I hear what you say, but you cant hold those two riders responsible for the inadequacies of the rest of the team.....That Buck stops with the Manager's Selections, Team Spirit and Motivation ......

Not holding them responsible at all as this team was doomed from the outset & was saying that those 2 can only do so much.

 

That's why I said about a 10 point average as it just wasn't going to happen.

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I Think Morris has been the biggest problem this year ..to me two seasons ago I really thought he was going to reach the top but over the last two seasons he just been treading water . This years team was build on him being a being a big improver and thou the new format makes it hard for him I think his form for Swindon and in Pl has been poor .

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I Think Morris has been the biggest problem this year ..to me two seasons ago I really thought he was going to reach the top but over the last two seasons he just been treading water . This years team was build on him being a being a big improver and thou the new format makes it hard for him I think his form for Swindon and in Pl has been poor .

 

Think you are spot on there Orion. The Kid doesn't look like a third heat leader, he slips off too often and his bikes don't seem that good. I'd suggest his PL performances for Somerset underline this.

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Seeing how woeful the Wolves were last week, I imagine this would be a much closer affair with the Robins getting at least a point. But yet again, my predictability was way off. It seems the Robins performance was subdued and the Wolves bounced back with a vengeance.

 

 

 

Some on here have said about proper No.1's and that Swindon don't feel they are strong in that department. With the current state of our league racing, Both Killer and Batch are top riders and could easily fill a no.1 spot. They have the ability to beat any rival, Probably their mind-set needs addressing. and that's all about motivation.

 

But don't kid yourself they're not good enough, the showing in the SGP at the weekend proves they are.

Of course both are good enough - just ignore our resident troll.

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The boys let you down then!

 

 

 

 

To be fair Porkie is great entertainment. WHERE IS OUR PORKIE????? :nono:

Unfortunately and he's not on his own judging by last nights crowd, it seems Porky has found something better to do on a Monday night.Someone who has been a fixture for as long as I can remember has now become a stranger (sounds familiar).I think the tipping point for Porky came when not even the kids could be bothered to join in with his 'dad dancing' after a Wolves 5-1.Judging by last night he made the right decision to stay away, only 1 pass to report in a pure gate and go night of racing,ironically on a perfect summers evening.In Porky's absence we Peter Yorke to look forward to,nothing against him but if this was the 80's his act would appear dated. Edited by New Science
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Somebody mentioned that Swindon were subdued which was a very apt description. Their performance was very flat and at no stage did they ever look like mounting any sort of challenge. When your 3 heat leaders can only manage one win between them the defeat is inevitable. Kildemand looked off his game and Nick Morris again looked uncomfortable. I watched the Robins away from the Abbey quite a lot last season and have seen them 4 or 5 times on theit travels this year and have to say this was one of the most lacklustre performances I've seen in that time. I think Rosco has work to do if the Robins season is not going to peter out to nothing.

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I Think Morris has been the biggest problem this year ..to me two seasons ago I really thought he was going to reach the top but over the last two seasons he just been treading water . This years team was build on him being a being a big improver and thou the new format makes it hard for him I think his form for Swindon and in Pl has been poor .

 

Morris deserved more points for effort last night. If Kildemand and Batch put in the same effort last night it could have been a lot closer.

 

 

Yes but how many years has Batch been riding in the EL. In my opinion Batch has not improved in the EL.

 

 

 

Have to agree actually. Batch was a one season wonder when he looked like he had made the breakthru. He seems a 7-8 point man at best.

 

 

Unfortunately and he's not on his own judging by last nights crowd, it seems Porky has found something better to do on a Monday night.Someone who has been a fixture for as long as I can remember has now become a stranger (sounds familiar).I think the tipping point for Porky came when not even the kids could be bothered to join in with his 'dad dancing' after a Wolves 5-1.Judging by last night he made the right decision to stay away, only 1 pass to report in a pure gate and go night of racing,ironically on a perfect summers evening.In Porky's absence we Peter Yorke to look forward to,nothing against him but if this was the 80's his act would appear dated.

 

 

It does seem odd that Porkie hasnt been seen for a few weeks now. Cant believe he has stopped doing the gig. Is he still doing Cradley on a Tuesday??

Porkie at least could get the crowd going. Yorke is a bumbler that nobody wants. He is actually ruining the atmosphere on a Monday night with his nonsense.

I must start a campaign to FIND OUR PORKIE! :t:

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