Kings Lynn Stars Vs Coventry Bees (wed 2nd July 2014)

[mdmc82]

Depends when Coventry informed Lynn that they had problems raising a full team. Both clubs at fault IMO along with all members of the BSPA. This situation isn't unique and didn't spring up overnight.

Yet again the fans are the ones that suffer and they wonder why so many turn their backs on the sport.

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They informed them early as fixture has had TBC near it since Easter

[Star Fever]

Pity it isn't scheduled to pour with rain tomorrow night .....

 

It'd be good if Buster made a stand on this and voluntarily postponed this match - he's certainly got good enough reasons i.e

- to stage it would most likely mean loss of revenue;

- to stage it is NOT in the best interests of EL speedway as a whole;

 

And to state that he will ONLY stage it if Coventry are allowed suitable replacements!

 

Regardless of when Horton et al knew of this situation unless someone makes a stand soon there'll be more supporters calling it a day like 'SilverBee' above.

[kelvinht]

Pity it isn't scheduled to pour with rain tomorrow night .....

 

It'd be good if Buster made a stand on this and voluntarily postponed this match - he's certainly got good enough reasons i.e

- to stage it would most likely mean loss of revenue;

- to stage it is NOT in the best interests of EL speedway as a whole;

 

And to state that he will ONLY stage it if Coventry are allowed suitable replacements!

 

Regardless of when Horton et al knew of this situation unless someone makes a stand soon there'll be more supporters calling it a day like 'SilverBee' above.

 

Agreed...was looking forward to this....I'm sure we can find a date later in the season - September currently has no home meetings so would make sense to have one then to keep up to speed at home before the play offs start

[Star Lady]

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They informed them early as fixture has had TBC near it since Easter

So when exactly did Coventry tell Lynn that they wouldn't have a full team? Before or after they signed MJJ? Let's face it with just Hans missing no one would have really batted an eyelid, we've all become that used to it. If it was after what exactly was Lynn supposed to do. Say to Swindon sorry not coming to the Abbey tomorrow we are going to host Coventry cos they haven't got a full team today? No I don't think so. So should Buster forgo a meeting this week with the resulting impact on his cash flow in a month when he gets fewer meetings anyway cos of the World Team Cup?

 

As I said earlier no one comes out of this smelling of roses and it's the fans that suffer. The riders as a collective don't, they still ride somewhere. The promoters don't, Coventry will probably pay out less to their guests than they would to the regular riders. Buster? well probably cos fans will vote with their feet but what else could he do, Poole, Wolves both riding tomorrow. Brum and Leicester should have been. Swindon prob don't want to cos of Kildeman.Belle Vue, Lakeside and Eastie both here in the last 2/3 weeks. So stuck between a rock and a hard place.

 

So the fans will either miss a meeting in the height of summer, good weather forecast or pay over the odds for a one sided meeting. When all could have been avoided with a bit of communication and forethought (oh yeah BSPA don't do either of those).

this is true about the injuries but the fact was Niels was banned I think for 14 days same rules should apply , as for changing the race day to Thursday did Birmingham help Lynn out earlier this season when we had half a team ? I just don't get why Coventry agreed to this fixture when they knew they'd be missing riders . It's a sad fact that racing in the UK comes bottom of almost every riders priority we are bottom of the pile .

 

See this is the attitude that shoots speedway in the foot every bloody time. Co-operation works maybe they should all try it and stop this twit for tat nonsense. And I mean fans as well as promoters. Nothing personal Haza your post was just handy to quote but this all makes me so mad.

 

 

Edited to add

 

Did I hear during the NKI episode last year that Danes have to ride twice in their domestic league or face a ban. Just wondering how many other meetings Hans and MJJ have ridden in. If my memory is wrong blame my age.

Edited July 1, 2014 by Star Lady

[Daniel Smith]

Just re-read the Coventry statement and they have no issue with King's Lynn running the meeting. They seem disappointed that no other team accepted the chance to swap dates. It clearly says they asked other clubs to fill the gap, not to get the meeting cancelled.

 

Mick Horton:

“I have phoned around every other Elite League promoter in an effort to get the fixture switched, but unfortunately nobody was able to help on this occasion, and we have to accept that King’s Lynn do need to fulfil the fixture."

 

I can understand why meetings don't get cancelled, especially when the forecast is set fair and be unable to fit the fixture in due to other reason off cancellations.

One of the biggest gripes from fans is the fudging around with fixtures yet call for this one to be cancelled. We can't have it both way.

 

With what has been happening with Birmingham and possibly Eastbourne at the end of the season, home fans especially, please do not boycott the meeting. Every penny counts towards a clubs survival.

 

KEEP BRITISH SPEEDWAY ALIVE

[beerspanner]

This sport is so unprofessional how can you keep it alive tracking a side like this . I fear EL speedway is dying sport run by a totally inept governing body that has no idea how to promote their own product .. If any football club fielded 11reserves the FA would not allow it . RIP Elite league

[g13webb]

Seems like I will be one of the few people who will be going. That said, I must have plenty of money to waste, and not a very good home life....

 

Truth is I am one of those Hard Core fans, who never misses a meeting. I've been known to go all-day just to watch riders practise.

 

But I'm not the sort of person the promoters need to target. It's Joe Public they need to interest...........

[Bagpuss]

Simon Lambert at number one for Coventry apparently.

[SCB]

Why Lambert when we have our own NL team?!

[Daniel Smith]

Simon Lambert at number one for Coventry apparently

Just thought I'd edit that. I'm sure deep inside it's what you are doing I was anyway.

Simon Lambert at No'1, I have to feel sorry for him and this is the strange thing with the Draft system. Reserves can't race against heatleaders but can guest as a heatleader. You just couldn't make it up

Edited July 1, 2014 by screamer

[sandking072]

I thought I might make a one of return to post about my considerable displeasure concerning this meeting.

 

If anyone wonders why speedway is on it's knees, they need look no further than this fixture.

 

I'm a hardcore fan, I think you get that status when going to Buxton to watch a broken national league product and still stay for the midland development league meeting. I'd booked time off work, which at the moment is a massive struggle with the lack of staff we have got but I wanted to go after missing the A fixture so I made plans. As of 3pm this afternoon, there was absolutely no official word from Coventry about any missing riders despite the fact they had known about this clash for ages.

 

It's now left me with 2 options, either travel all the way to Lynn to watch a shambles of a meeting and pay £16 quid for the privilege (cheers Jo, if you're reading, didn't put your prices up on this rant!) or waste half a days holiday. A situation completely avoidable if Coventry had just been honest from the outset and made clear a lot earlier what the actual situation for this meeting was going to be. The cardinal sin in this situation, in my opinion anyway, is the huge lack of information concerning the meeting. Announcing information like this in the afternoon the day before the meeting is not acceptable.

 

Coventry have now put out a frankly pathetic statement essentially blaming everyone but themselves for this situation occurring. At what point exactly did they start to try and have the meeting changed given how long they have known about the clash? Why was it ever agreed to knowing our number 1 wouldn't be available and we would have to use a 3 pointer? Everyone elses fault but our own. Don't worry though, because it's not our own gate figures we will be ruining after all.

 

Apparently we now have Cameron Heeps guesting for us. Why? The meeting is already a shambles, just send the storm boys to ride. They are there on Friday and would probably appreciate the track time. I'd just send Ryan Terry Daley and Martin Knucky as our guests and see how quickly the meeting got changed then.

 

It's clear that Lynn have the ability to run on Thursday to avoid Danish clashes as they do for their own riders, however if Buster thinks he can run on the sort of crowd he will get tomorrow plus having to pay out 65+ in points money then good luck to him. It's pathetic that the meeting can't be changed but it's just the way all league speedway seems to be these days. All willing to get one over on someone and take the points when available but in reality it's the paying public that continually suffer because of it.

 

I really have had enough of this shambles of a sport, and I will never be booking time off to go again. Promoters are crying out for bigger crowds and then continue to alienate the ones they already have and they have finally pushed me over the edge from die hard to floating fan who will go as and when I can be bothered.

 

I've already been told but one half of the Horton brothers that my money wasn't wanted, based on this evidence it's clear that the other one doesn't care too much for it either.

Great post. There's a proper fan talking. What a shambles!

[NeilWatson]

Why Lambert when we have our own NL team?!

 

The facility is a PL guest up to 6.00

 

Storm:

 

James Sarjeant - Bees FTDR

Oliver Greenwood, Dan Greenwood, Luke Crang, Ryan Terry-Daley, Martin Knuckey - not in PL 1-7

 

That leaves Stefan Nielsen who hasn't ridden since his crash at Brandon.

[stevebrum]

I wonder how many meetings MJJ will miss by the time the season finishes. I'm guessing more than he rides!

 

 

Bog standard answer - plenty as per.

[SCB]

 

 

Bog standard answer - plenty as per.

TBF this is hardly his fault is it? Imagine Woffy chose to ride in Poland rather than in the UK - oh, he has, in the past!

[Star Fever]

Just re-read the Coventry statement and they have no issue with King's Lynn running the meeting. They seem disappointed that no other team accepted the chance to swap dates. It clearly says they asked other clubs to fill the gap, not to get the meeting cancelled.

 

Mick Horton:

“I have phoned around every other Elite League promoter in an effort to get the fixture switched, but unfortunately nobody was able to help on this occasion, and we have to accept that King’s Lynn do need to fulfil the fixture."

 

I can understand why meetings don't get cancelled, especially when the forecast is set fair and be unable to fit the fixture in due to other reason off cancellations.

One of the biggest gripes from fans is the fudging around with fixtures yet call for this one to be cancelled. We can't have it both way.

 

With what has been happening with Birmingham and possibly Eastbourne at the end of the season, home fans especially, please do not boycott the meeting. Every penny counts towards a clubs survival.

 

KEEP BRITISH SPEEDWAY ALIVE

Yes can understand why it hasn't been cancelled - even though thats the common sense thing to do!

 

Problem is that there is a problem in the first place - all it needs is a simple rule to allow PROPER guest riders if there's a clash with a rider's home country league meeting. Obviously don't let it happen all the time, but restrict it to, say 2 or 3 times per rider per season.

[stevebrum]

TBF this is hardly his fault is it? Imagine Woffy chose to ride in Poland rather than in the UK - oh, he has, in the past!

 

 

I cant take you serious if you are going to compare Woffy`s commitment to Wolves and the EL over MJJ`s.

MJJ isn't committed to riding here, it isn't really a shock tho is it!

[Silver Bee]

 

The facility is a PL guest up to 6.00

 

Storm:

 

James Sarjeant - Bees FTDR

Oliver Greenwood, Dan Greenwood, Luke Crang, Ryan Terry-Daley, Martin Knuckey - not in PL 1-7

 

That leaves Stefan Nielsen who hasn't ridden since his crash at Brandon.

 

Rule book states they can't have a PL MA of more than 6.00 but nowhere does it states they must be in a PL declared line up at the time as far as I can see.

[SCB]

 

 

I cant take you serious if you are going to compare Woffy`s commitment to Wolves and the EL over MJJ`s.

MJJ isn't committed to riding here, it isn't really a shock tho is it!

You are questioning MJJ riding in Denmark rather than in the UK. I think anyone with half a brain accepts a rider will ride in his home country ahead of a foreign country, especially when they only recently signed a contract for the foreign country. And Tai did once miss an Eastbourne vs Wolves meeting to ride for Czestochowa, its an undeniable fact.

[MFE]

As if the events in speedway this week with Birmingham and Eastbourne are not warning enough, the bspa in general and in this case the Coventry promotion for agreeing to the fixture at Kings Lynn seem to totally ignore the fact that the fans are totally p-ssed off by the total disregard to supporters.

It is of little comfort that the team is almost complete come Friday, the damn promoters just don't seem to get it, despite playing to empty stadiums, stupid or what.........!

[foreverstars]

I will be there anyway.Birmingham had a poor lineup in an already weak team a few weeks back and there was still a healthy crowd there.Coventry new the fixture list before they singed MJJ.