david2905 Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 Bentley you forgot to add it averaged 3.5 out off 5 by tripadvisor which seems quite reasonable for English food.The person who gave it 1 could be compitition Also those giving it 5 could be Phillips or friends of, plenty of fake reviews of various places on tripadvisor. Personally I think Cradley going to PB is bad news for all concerned, with only 1 night a week allowed, that's the Brummies finished for the forseeable future, and it would also let Dudley Council off the hook with less pressure to find Cradley a proper home in their actual area instead of squatting at Birmingham, net result is Brummies are dead and Cradley probably won't return to Cradley/Dudley for over 20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) The same as Tony Mole was asking for a hundred grand to help him run this year ! Tony Mole is more reliable wouldn't you agree? When the Phillips's lips moved what were we to believe.... Edited November 4, 2014 by Deano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisperer Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 The same as Tony Mole was asking for a hundred grand to help him run this year ! No that £100k included his own investment,he was looking to raise sufficient working capital to take it beyond 2015 and required additional investors to share the pain of rebuilding it and to give suppliers who had been let down some comfort and once in the Mole will never default whatever the circumstances. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANSE Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 He only stays 2 years and then sells Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham C Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Whether we (Brummies), or Cradley fans, like it or not, NO SPEEDWAY at Perry Barr in 2015 will certainly mean the end of The Brummies in my lifetime, and quite possibly the end of The Heathens as well. I can well appreciate the views of both sets of fans regarding The Heathens being at Perry Barr, but, as I've stated above, I believe that No Speedway at Perry Barr will certainly mean the end. Speedway back at Perry Barr in 2016, after a years break, - NO CHANCE whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 No that £100k included his own investment,he was looking to raise sufficient working capital to take it beyond 2015 and required additional investors to share the pain of rebuilding it and to give suppliers who had been let down some comfort and once in the Mole will never default whatever the circumstances. How much was Tony Moles's investment ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Hunter Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 How much was Tony Moles's investment ? £30,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham C Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Perhaps there is another way to keep the Birmingham Speedway track (as opposed to simply The Brummies) in existence. I'm not sure whether this would be feasible or not (perhaps someone with "inside" knowledge could enlighten me), but, would it possible for a series of 5/6 "Top Quality" meetings to take place at Perry Barr? For example, Test Matches against Sweden, Denmark and possibly Poland. The SWC match, perhaps the British Final etc. If these were properly marketed surely there would be enough interest for the events to pay for themselves. What Benfits are there? The GRA would be paid the rent, and also have the opportunity (if they wished) to offer a more extensive range Catering (extra cash for them). The BSPA (because these would be shared events) would earn money from the takings plus, any sponsorship/tv money which may be forthcoming for the right events. A track in a "major" City is kept in use with the possibility that one day regular league racing may return there. The alternative is that NO SPEEDWAY at Perry Barr in 2015 (whether that be Brummies or Heathens or BSPA events) would mean the end of Perry Barr as a venue as I don't believe that there would be any chance of a resurection after a break of more than 12 months. Perhaps there is another way to keep the Birmingham Speedway track (as opposed to simply The Brummies) in existence. I'm not sure whether this would be feasible or not (perhaps someone with "inside" knowledge could enlighten me), but, would it possible for a series of 5/6 "Top Quality" meetings to take place at Perry Barr? For example, Test Matches against Sweden, Denmark and possibly Poland. The SWC match, perhaps the British Final etc. If these were properly marketed surely there would be enough interest for the events to pay for themselves. What Benfits are there? The GRA would be paid the rent, and also have the opportunity (if they wished) to offer a more extensive range Catering (extra cash for them). The BSPA (because these would be shared events) would earn money from the takings plus, any sponsorship/tv money which may be forthcoming for the right events. A track in a "major" City is kept in use with the possibility that one day regular league racing may return there. The alternative is that NO SPEEDWAY at Perry Barr in 2015 (whether that be Brummies or Heathens or BSPA events) would mean the end of Perry Barr as a venue as I don't believe that there would be any chance of a resurection after a break of more than 12 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guestie8 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) People in various posts have mentioned about the stadiums and lack of investments - stating that as a reason people wont attend speedway. Why then, do these very same stadiums pack out for F1 stock cars? It cant be the venue - its the product....... I would take it back to 13 heats and a meaningful second half - giving local youngsters a chance to get on track It would be nice to see other forms of racing in second halves - ie pit bikes - flat track - grasstrackers - sidecarsetc for variation but I know regulations will make this difficult as part of a SCB controlled meeting. Back in the 60s,70s and maybe even 80s you could have done what you want - not anymore :-( Edited November 7, 2014 by guestie8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Shaleman Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 People in various posts have mentioned about the stadiums and lack of investments - stating that as a reason people wont attend speedway. Why then, do these very same stadiums pack out for F1 stock cars? It cant be the venue - its the product....... I would take it back to 13 heats and a meaningful second half - giving local youngsters a chance to get on track It would be nice to see other forms of racing in second halves - ie pit bikes - flat track - grasstrackers - sidecarsetc for variation but I know regulations will make this difficult as part of a SCB controlled meeting. Back in the 60s,70s and maybe even 80s you could have done what you want - not anymore :-( What you do is "close the meeting" at the end of the speedway match. The SCB referee's duties are over. Control of what then happens falls to the promoting club. You can put on then what you wish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike.Butler Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 how frustrating is it when there is an 'official practice' and there's nobody in the box telling us who is on track, even on some occasions when there are legitimate races from the tapes! we deserve more than a paltry 15 heats for gods sake...if there are riders wanting to race at least include us fans won't you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 £30,000 That £30,000 should ensure the viability of National league speedway for Birmingham next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruiser McHuge Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 People in various posts have mentioned about the stadiums and lack of investments - stating that as a reason people wont attend speedway. Why then, do these very same stadiums pack out for F1 stock cars? It cant be the venue - its the product....... I would take it back to 13 heats and a meaningful second half - giving local youngsters a chance to get on track It would be nice to see other forms of racing in second halves - ie pit bikes - flat track - grasstrackers - sidecarsetc for variation but I know regulations will make this difficult as part of a SCB controlled meeting. Back in the 60s,70s and maybe even 80s you could have done what you want - not anymore :-( Stock cars aren't on as often are they ?...if they were a regular weekly event I would doubt you would see packed out stadiums....as a randomly staged event they can attract more in. They seem to put a big full page advert in the local paper round our way which would attract people in as the ad always looks very good...it even attracted me to take the kids once but I found it the most boring thing I've ever seen , and the kids weren't overly thrilled as well, so I don't think the stock car product is better than speedway's to be honest. There's no accounting for taste anyway...in Australia the solos always struggled to get good crowds and people generally preferred the sprint cars and speed cars on the same bill.....and put a demolition derby on and the place would be packed to the rafters...God knows why !......speedway doesn't help itself but it has an image problem whereby other motor sports are somehow considered more glamourous for some reason...it needs promoting as an extreme sport, emphasise the danger and that will appeal more to the younger element....drop the family sport safe image..it's dull and boring..... There's not that much wrong with speedway that decent track preparation, decent PA systems and decent music and a bit of promotion couldn't solve a bit...sort out the rules and the team formations and it has a future....maybe. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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