topaz325 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) Sad to hear of Birminghams demise, really feel for the Brummies fans ...it seems incredible that a major city cannot support Speedway, about three years ago i visited the stadium for the first time to see a Cradley meeting and the crowd was bigger tha most PL/EL teams can muster!! I usually feel quite optimistic about the future of Speedway in this country but with Birmingham closing and the future of Eastbourne looking very doubtful for next year things do not look good. With many clubs struggling to encourage fans to attend it seems that only Poole and Lakeside are maintaining good attendances, im sure someone will put me right if im wrong. Things fans are not happy with include double uppers/downers (many teams missing riders virtually every week) no continuity with fixtures (maybe we need to have fortnightly matches instead of every week?), long drawn out meetings, i know crashes cannot be accounted for but sometimes this is no excuse for matches taking nearly three hours for 15 hts of Speedway..... Also many promoters taking supporters for a ride with rained off meetings and no monies being paid back......not really legal...oh and the dreaded Joker/double point rule....get rid of it! Sorry for ....no im not!! Edited July 16, 2014 by topaz325 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Nice to see the generosity being shown to the Brummies fans by the other teams up and down the country. I doubt if any attempts to convert them into supporters of other teams will succeed though. Personally, I think that where there's life there's hope and that the main focus of most Brummies fans will be on supporting the sterling efforts being made to bring the sport back to the city in 2015. It won't be long before what's going on in Wolverhampton, Cradley or Coventry will just be a distraction. Birmingham is where the heart is, not Brandon or Monmore Green/Wood. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Quite right ... I am in Norfolk at the moment and will take in a KL match tonight, and will also see some Coventry and Cradley matches through the year, but become a fan? NO chance! But thanks anyway, much appreciated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Whatever their motives, I cannot help but be slightly impressed (and surprised) that so many other clubs have said they will honour Birmingham season tickets. The Midlands clubs apart I doubt there will be more than a dozen take them up on the offer but that's not the point. If all clubs made the same offer something awful could be used as a positive thing. Press releases to the media along the lines of speedway cares about it's fans etc. It would cost most clubs less than a hundred quid, some much less, Come on promoters get off your backsides and do it. I agree with Star Lady. In a way this sad event has restored a little faith in Speedway for me. I think it is really great the way all of these Teams are coming together to honour Birmingham's Season Tickets. Credit is very much due to the Promoters for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeoBrummie Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Latest from the Brum Mail http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/other-sport/tony-mole-keen-resurrect-birmingham-7433245 Interesting quote from Tony Mole - “I don’t accept that Birmingham Speedway is unviable. It may have been the way it was run by the previous owners, but it can work." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high edge Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 You got to find out why the welsh wizards left the promoters to struggle along , both did disapearing acts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsc1 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) You got to find out why the welsh wizards left the promoters to struggle along , both did disapearing acts because both could not work with the Philips clan, hat off to g drruy who did give it a go but in the end at to walk away..... Edited July 17, 2014 by tsc1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten2502 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) We as Brummies fans are extremely grateful for the rallying round of other clubs willing to honour our season tickets - what a great pity our own "promoters" didn't! Edited July 16, 2014 by kitten2502 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david2905 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 because both could not work with the Philips clan, hat off to g drug who did try but had to give in...? Indeed, why stay and damage your reputation when Captain Phillips is determined to sink the ship in the face of advice otherwise ?. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 I really don't see why there has been so much mileage in the crazy suggestion that other teams offer the weekly paying Brum fans reduced admission at their tracks - its a mad idea suggested by one individual who gets slated mercilessly on here so why does anyone take it seriously. Personally I will be getting my fix as often as possible at other Midland venues and Southerly tracks while I'm on hols and will gladly pay full price for the sport I love - while living in hope that Brum will be back on track in 2015. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P T Preece Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Perhaps if the weekly payers contacted Coventry they would send a complimentary taxi for them aswell lol. I think the offer to the season ticket holders is generous enough on Coventry's behalf and I don't see anyoNo thats no goodne else stepping up. Hats off to Mick and Neil No thats no good if the weekly payers are goinng to get a taxi, I at least want a limo and some bubbly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) No thats no good if the weekly payers are goinng to get a taxi, I at least want a limo and some bubbly. Perhaps Mr Phillips should drop us off in his new car, I think we're within our rights to claim part ownership. Edited July 16, 2014 by crazy jack 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 While it is a shame with what has happened at Birmingham, to get to go to Wolverhampton on the Monday and Cradley on the Tuesday is a great compensation and hopefully keep them connected to the sport should plans for 2015 not take off. There are a number of Brummies fans that come to Monmore any way but for season tickets to be granted at many other tracks is a great showing by all the tracks taking part in backing the fans that had to wait so long to see the sport return to Britain's second city. It really is baffling how a city as big as Birmingham can't generate enough spectators to keep the sport going and hope it gets back on track next season with the right person and the changes needed to make it a better venture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthur cross Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 It really is baffling how a city as big as Birmingham can't generate enough spectators to keep the sport going and hope it gets back on track next season with the right person and the changes needed to make it a better venture. By the looks of it, certainly a few years ago, Birmingham can comfortably generate enough supporters to keep speedway going. The only baffling bit is why the Phillips regime couldn't understand that a city as big as Birmingham will also have plenty of other activities ready to attract the leisure money of any Brummies fans who became disillusioned with the way their speedway team were being run. In any big city, you don't just thank your supporters for turning up ... you also thank them for choosing your brand of entertainment ahead of anything else they could have picked instead. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeoBrummie Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 More from the Brum Mail http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/other-sport/tony-mole-plans-birmingham-talks-7441673 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 ... Brummies fans who became disillusioned with the way their speedway team were being run. Bluejam alluded to a more fundamental problem in his post a few pages back. He and a few others of us used to follow the Brummies home and away for years. In the days when I did the Twitter Updates I went to 100% of the meetings for more than 2 years and only missed a meeting if I was on holiday. Almost all of us who were such devotees have since pretty much given the entire sport in the UK a wide berth now. There's more to it than just how the Brummies were run. Speedway itself has become a "toxic brand". It seems that the closer you get to the sport the more repulsed you feel at the behind-the-scenes politics, ineptitude and dirty tricks that go on at all levels of the sport to the point when you just become so fed up with it all that you pack the sport up not just your team. So as well as it applies to those more directly at fault, thank you to the British Speedway establishment for your part in fans no longer going through the turnstiles at Birmingham. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brianbuck Posted July 17, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I think the offer of free admission for Birmingham season-ticket holders made by these six clubs represents a marvellous gesture and emphasises all that is good about speedway, and I'm very sorry to see cynics suggesting that there is some kind of ulterior motive about this. I believe that it is a genuine desire to offer a helping hand to a group of supporters loyal enough to Birmingham to shell out cash in advance and it is much appreciated by those who will benefit from it. The notion that the intention is to "convert" Birmingham supporters into supporters of rival clubs is total nonsense. I'm not a season-ticket holder myself, but I'll be regularly visiting other Midland tracks during the remainder of the season as I would have been even if Birmingham had not closed like this, but it won't affect my loyalty to the Brummies which has survived for 62 years now, and it won't lessen the way I will do everything I can to help get my beloved Brummies back on track - but I'm grateful for the gesture and very much admire the promoters concerned for their generosity of spirit. Shame on those who can only see an ulterior motive that I don't believe is there. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stansolo Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Bluejam alluded to a more fundamental problem in his post a few pages back. He and a few others of us used to follow the Brummies home and away for years. In the days when I did the Twitter Updates I went to 100% of the meetings for more than 2 years and only missed a meeting if I was on holiday. Almost all of us who were such devotees have since pretty much given the entire sport in the UK a wide berth now. There's more to it than just how the Brummies were run. Speedway itself has become a "toxic brand". It seems that the closer you get to the sport the more repulsed you feel at the behind-the-scenes politics, ineptitude and dirty tricks that go on at all levels of the sport to the point when you just become so fed up with it all that you pack the sport up not just your team. So as well as it applies to those more directly at fault, thank you to the British Speedway establishment for your part in fans no longer going through the turnstiles at Birmingham. 100% correct.................yep I said 100% CORRECT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Bluejam alluded to a more fundamental problem in his post a few pages back. He and a few others of us used to follow the Brummies home and away for years. In the days when I did the Twitter Updates I went to 100% of the meetings for more than 2 years and only missed a meeting if I was on holiday. Almost all of us who were such devotees have since pretty much given the entire sport in the UK a wide berth now. There's more to it than just how the Brummies were run. Speedway itself has become a "toxic brand". It seems that the closer you get to the sport the more repulsed you feel at the behind-the-scenes politics, ineptitude and dirty tricks that go on at all levels of the sport to the point when you just become so fed up with it all that you pack the sport up not just your team. So as well as it applies to those more directly at fault, thank you to the British Speedway establishment for your part in fans no longer going through the turnstiles at Birmingham. One of these days you're gonna tell me all this, dunno if I wanna know or not!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike.Butler Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Martin, i know you to be a very well informed, articulate and dedicated Brummies supporter. I too look to be losing my local track unless something extraordinary happens over the winter. I trust Brian was still attending to the end although unfortunately my working in London meant I never caught up with you at Perry Barr this season. I am prepared to travel to watch (potentially) decent meetings and I hope you will still too in the UK, as going to Poalnd evey week would be a little costly. Not sure if you had a season ticket this year but if so why not take advantage of the offers by other tracks. We can ill-afford to lose supporters like you. head up...if Tony Mole can get the Brummies back next season I will ensure I make as many visits as I can in support. (NB sincerely hope it's PL) m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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