david2905 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 I feel so sorry for the Brummie fans there is NO doubt this is a blow for British Speedway, that the 2nd city does not have a Speedway Team. In my opinion the Phillips family have a lot to be accountable for. Its my honest opinion that they barely had 2 pennies to put into the Team for 2014, they relied entirely on putting of paying bills for as long as they could, they paid riders late, they didnt pay rent when it was due, and they told blatant lies to supporters and probably the BSPA (Birmingham Speedway is debt free) that being the most blatant. It seems to me they relied entirely on these late payments combined with advances (Sky Money) and season ticket money to continue for as long as they could, when these monies ran out, they tried right up until the day before Philips announcement, to lie, bluster and basically tell untruths about the Brummie situation, The BSPA has to accept it is to blame in a small way, firstly by not insisting that Brum had an experienced person helping them run the Speedway, and secondly by not investigating the Brummie financial situation before it got so bad. Hopefully Birmingham Speedway can return in 2015, that has to be the main focus of the BSPA and Brummie supporters now. Bang on, Birmingham Speedway had plenty of issues, but non insurmountable, apart from an incompetent and lying owner, who despite allegedly being an accountant, took us into a mess even a year 4 maths class could see would wreck any possible future if persisted with in the same manner. Hmm, very sad news for all Brummies fans, i feel very sorry for you. In the BSPA statement it states that Harkness attended a meeting with Brummies supporters, on reading this, this is the first ive heard of it, as to my knowledge nothing was put on here about it. Can anybody who went to that meeting shed any light on that, and what was said ? Unless I'm mistaken, that meeting was effectively to tell supporters the true state of play at that time, given no one no longer believed anything spewing out of Phillips towers as genuine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Unless I'm mistaken, that meeting was effectively to tell supporters the true state of play at that time, given no one no longer believed anything spewing out of Phillips towers as genuine. Thats not what i was asking. I was asking, did any fan actually go to this meeting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymondbudd Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 The main problem now is that unless somebody pays the outstanding debts to the landlord, ts unlikely that any future promoter will be accepted by the GRA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Thats not what i was asking. I was asking, did any fan actually go to this meeting? Yes. Fans involved with the fighting fund attended and so too did Phil Morris. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Is Birmingham Brummies Ltd Now in Receivership ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 The main problem now is that unless somebody pays the outstanding debts to the landlord, ts unlikely that any future promoter will be accepted by the GRA. If it has gone bust they are not allowed to pay one one debt off and ignore others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejam Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Hmm, very sad news for all Brummies fans, i feel very sorry for you. In the BSPA statement it states that Harkness attended a meeting with Brummies supporters, on reading this, this is the first ive heard of it, as to my knowledge nothing was put on here about it. Can anybody who went to that meeting shed any light on that, and what was said ? Just for you Starry:- http://www.brummiespeedway.net/forum/index.php?topic=9297.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gambo Posted July 14, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Coventry Press Release: COVENTRY are pleased to announce they will honour Birmingham Speedway season tickets for the remainder of the regular Elite League season.The Perry Barr club has regrettably closed for 2014 after attempts to ensure they could continue racing proved unsuccessful, and Coventry wish to give the loyal Brummies fans at least some consolation and value for their financial outlay over the winter.The Buildbase Bees have nine home fixtures remaining, and Brummies season ticket holders will be welcomed with free admission for those meetings. Our next Elite League meeting is this Friday (July 18) against Belle Vue.Match programmes (and admission to play-off meetings if appropriate) will be chargeable at the usual prices.To take advantage of this offer, please send an e-mail to info@coventrybees.co with your name, address, category of season ticket and your season ticket number.These details will be collated and a list placed at the Bees’ usual season-ticket entrance so that your name can be ticked off when you arrive at Brandon. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejam Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Coventry Press Release: COVENTRY are pleased to announce they will honour Birmingham Speedway season tickets for the remainder of the regular Elite League season. The Perry Barr club has regrettably closed for 2014 after attempts to ensure they could continue racing proved unsuccessful, and Coventry wish to give the loyal Brummies fans at least some consolation and value for their financial outlay over the winter. The Buildbase Bees have nine home fixtures remaining, and Brummies season ticket holders will be welcomed with free admission for those meetings. Our next Elite League meeting is this Friday (July 18) against Belle Vue. Match programmes (and admission to play-off meetings if appropriate) will be chargeable at the usual prices. To take advantage of this offer, please send an e-mail to info@coventrybees.co with your name, address, category of season ticket and your season ticket number. These details will be collated and a list placed at the Bees’ usual season-ticket entrance so that your name can be ticked off when you arrive at Brandon. What a fantastic gesture by the Bees promotion 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Coventry Press Release: COVENTRY are pleased to announce they will honour Birmingham Speedway season tickets for the remainder of the regular Elite League season. The Perry Barr club has regrettably closed for 2014 after attempts to ensure they could continue racing proved unsuccessful, and Coventry wish to give the loyal Brummies fans at least some consolation and value for their financial outlay over the winter. The Buildbase Bees have nine home fixtures remaining, and Brummies season ticket holders will be welcomed with free admission for those meetings. Our next Elite League meeting is this Friday (July 18) against Belle Vue. Match programmes (and admission to play-off meetings if appropriate) will be chargeable at the usual prices. To take advantage of this offer, please send an e-mail to info@coventrybees.co with your name, address, category of season ticket and your season ticket number. These details will be collated and a list placed at the Bees’ usual season-ticket entrance so that your name can be ticked off when you arrive at Brandon. What a lovely offer to fans who must really be hurting at the moment. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fundinfan Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Pleasing to see that the Coventry Bees Management have offered free admission to Brummies season ticket holders for their remaining home league meetings in 2014. You will find a warm welcome awaits at the Hive 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Was just going to suggest that since Birmingham is reasonably close to Coventry, Leicester and Wolves, that those tracks should consider admitting Birmingham season ticket holders for a nominal fee....Coventry very quick of the mark with a generous offer of free admission. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Alan Phillips Statement: On Tuesday 8 July, out of frustration,I appointed joint administrators to attempt rescue. GRA, BSPA SCB all failed to respond to them. Sorry to all Brum fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Coventry Press Release: COVENTRY are pleased to announce they will honour Birmingham Speedway season tickets for the remainder of the regular Elite League season. The Perry Barr club has regrettably closed for 2014 after attempts to ensure they could continue racing proved unsuccessful, and Coventry wish to give the loyal Brummies fans at least some consolation and value for their financial outlay over the winter. The Buildbase Bees have nine home fixtures remaining, and Brummies season ticket holders will be welcomed with free admission for those meetings. Our next Elite League meeting is this Friday (July 18) against Belle Vue. Match programmes (and admission to play-off meetings if appropriate) will be chargeable at the usual prices. To take advantage of this offer, please send an e-mail to info@coventrybees.co with your name, address, category of season ticket and your season ticket number. These details will be collated and a list placed at the Bees’ usual season-ticket entrance so that your name can be ticked off when you arrive at Brandon. Well done Mick Horton and all at Coventry Speedway!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGT Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Of course its that simple. However the stay aways seem to have some perverse pleasure in wanting to see it fail. Each to there own i suppose. And you know this as a fact, do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthur cross Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) Alan Phillips Statement: On Tuesday 8 July, out of frustration,I appointed joint administrators to attempt rescue. GRA, BSPA SCB all failed to respond to them. Sorry to all Brum fans. When even the person who claims to have appointed those "joint administrators" chooses not to identify them in his statement, how can the outside world seriously believe such appointments were ever made ? !! It strikes me as another version of Charles Phillips claiming the Brummies were owed 5 lots of "points money" from their away meetings without ever admitting how up-to-date they were with sending any similar points money to the clubs who'd ridden this season at Perry Barr. You can't seriously expect to pick up much sympathy from your sob-stories if you're not going to be fully accurate about what you've done at your end of those sob-stories !! - - - - - - - - - While today's closure is clearly a particularly horrible part of this awful saga, I'm glad in one respect because it's saved the nightmare scenario of a hefty chunk of the generous donations to the fighting fund being used up hurriedly in what always looked a near-impossible task of salvaging this season's fixtures. Much better to use the extra-time leading into the 2015 season for both more fundraising and the more accurate allocation of the money that's already come in. If it has gone bust they are not allowed to pay one one debt off and ignore others. Correct in the sense that if Birmingham Brummies Ltd have gone bust, that company couldn't pick and choose the degree to which they paid off their different creditors from any sale of their assets. But if the organizers of any fighting fund choose not to give any of that money to Birmingham Brummies Ltd during any busted sell-off, then once that busted sell-off's done and dusted there's nothing to stop those fund organizers choosing to direct their money towards any particular debt that was never tidied up by the old company's collapse but which needs to be soothed in order for a newly-formed company to resume a similar style business. A situation like that would clearly be another kick in the teeth for the reputation of the old company's management ... but given how low that reputation's sunk already and when the use of the Perry Barr track from the GRA (as stadium landlord) is such a crucial part of any revival of Birmingham speedway, carrying out the situation I've just described is about as good a solution as both the GRA and Brummie fans are going to get !! Edited July 14, 2014 by arthur cross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coomie Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Sorry to read about the Brumies speedway ,hope,some good news comes quick ,house building company's cheque books are allready out I expect.or is there other racing at berry pay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Grand jesture by the Bees management and a very sad day for the Brummies. Just hope they can manage to get things sorted out and make a return to the PL next year. Fingers crossed as we can't afford to lose any more great teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Plus the receiver is duty bound to get as much for any assets that he can on behalf of the creditors, but of course they have to pay themselves first from any proceeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Firstly, sad to see the Brummies close. Secondly, a fanatstic gesture by Coventry. Thirdly, after building a team "that was always going to finish bottom," and still expect the fans to pay their hard earned cash anyway, in this currrent climate, with various, possibly cheaper, alternatives (of which I'm sure there is, in a place like Birmingham) is damn naive, at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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