OveFundinFan Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Just come back to speedway after many years away. Read in a post that there seems to be some controversy relating to silencers and they being dangerous (sure thats what it was saying) Whats the story on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Just come back to speedway after many years away. Read in a post that there seems to be some controversy relating to silencers and they being dangerous (sure thats what it was saying) Whats the story on this? Already a Thread on this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted June 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 So I type in "silencers" in the search box and get trillions of threads (well,maybe not trillions but seems like a lot), which I dont fancy trawling through, so I will just live in ignorance for a bit longer till it pops up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severnsider Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Basically silencers changed in 2010 to lower sound level. There design changed the pressure in the engines, said to cause more regular servicing, & make bikes harder to control especially when tracks are patchy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 The "New silencer design" thread; http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=50660&hl=%2Bsilencer+%2Bdesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 (edited) Already a Thread on this issue. So I type in "silencers" in the search box and get trillions of threads (well,maybe not trillions but seems like a lot), which I dont fancy trawling through, so I will just live in ignorance for a bit longer till it pops up again. I was only trying to help hence the Smiley. I thought that you might find the information you wanted there. The "New silencer design" thread; http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=50660&hl=%2Bsilencer+%2Bdesign Thanks for the Link Alan. Edited June 24, 2014 by The White Knight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 All I will add before going through that thread is all the fears have been laid to bed. Rider's and engine tuners have it nailed after a few years. No crashes or mechanical issues are related to the silencers at all. What we don't know is, are rider's still attacking these with drills? The reason I ask is that Eddie Kennett's form has picked up again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 All I will add before going through that thread is all the fears have been laid to bed. Rider's and engine tuners have it nailed after a few years. No crashes or mechanical issues are related to the silencers at all. What we don't know is, are rider's still attacking these with drills? The reason I ask is that Eddie Kennett's form has picked up again Tut, Tut. :nono: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 All I will add before going through that thread is all the fears have been laid to bed. Rider's and engine tuners have it nailed after a few years. No crashes or mechanical issues are related to the silencers at all. What we don't know is, are rider's still attacking these with drills? The reason I ask is that Eddie Kennett's form has picked up again IF you really believe that then you must also believe in Santa Claus... so many crashes these days can be directly related to problems caused by the silencers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Hammer Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 IF you really believe that then you must also believe in Santa Claus... so many crashes these days can be directly related to problems caused by the silencers. How do the silencers cause crashes? Sorry if this is old news, but new to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 The bikes react differently to how they used to... Especially in heavy dirt, however, tuners have been trying to tune the problem out, but it's not consistent, hence still a problem, not as bad, but still exists.. in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 IF you really believe that then you must also believe in Santa Claus... so many crashes these days can be directly related to problems caused by the silencers. So in your opinion, the changed engine design in the same time period ( shorter stroke for instance) has no role in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 How do the silencers cause crashes? Sorry if this is old news, but new to me A modern speedway engine withe super light flywheels and short stroke motors has no capability to keep revving when it hits some dirt. When it does so it will kill the revs and lift the bike up or send it of in the direction of the fence. The new silencers merely compounded a problem that the riders and tuners themselves have developed over the years The bikes react differently to how they used to... Especially in heavy dirt, however, tuners have been trying to tune the problem out, but it's not consistent, hence still a problem, not as bad, but still exists.. in my opinion. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted June 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 Hi The White Knight - no doubt you were trying to help, just that their were a lot threads/posts. Thanks Alan jones for the link -everything just a bit clearer now. Ongoing "problem" by the sounds of it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 IF you really believe that then you must also believe in Santa Claus... so many crashes these days can be directly related to problems caused by the silencers. oh my god we agree on something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 Theres Talk about lack of Torque being A Talking point as well...!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekimba Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 (edited) IF you really believe that then you must also believe in Santa Claus... so many crashes these days can be directly related to problems caused by the silencers. I think you mighty find that screamer was being a tad sarcastic, thats the way iread it anyway Screamers original post, not got the hang of multi quoting yet "All I will add before going through that thread is all the fears have been laid to bed. Rider's and engine tuners have it nailed after a few years. No crashes or mechanical issues are related to the silencers at all. What we don't know is, are rider's still attacking these with drills? The reason I ask is that Eddie Kennett's form has picked up again :lol:" Edited June 25, 2014 by ekimba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 IF you really believe that then you must also believe in Santa Claus... so many crashes these days can be directly related to problems caused by the silencers. HI Phil! Since you'll be keeping rain with Kelvin tomorrow in Riga, ask him about this. About offset engines and silencers combined. I had other things on top of my mind when I had the chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 HI Phil! Since you'll be keeping rain with Kelvin tomorrow in Riga, ask him about this. About offset engines and silencers combined. I had other things on top of my mind when I had the chance. It seems this is carrying on under the Gorzow gp-30th August Thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 HI Phil! Since you'll be keeping rain with Kelvin tomorrow in Riga, ask him about this. About offset engines and silencers combined. I had other things on top of my mind when I had the chance. ONLY just seen this post ... will chat to him about it on the golf course next week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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