Paulco Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Not been for a few weeks but last night another concern apart from other things highlighted on here was attendance level! I dont think a club can survive on that? Dont know what crowd was but there did not look 500. Apart from last night things have been ok to a level this season. You have a team which looked capable of a top six spot but to survive in any professional sport you need money through the gates. We're all suffering that way . The crowd at Glasgow last week was about the same as you described last night's attendance to be , and i cant imagine a meeting against Plymouth today will attract any more than that . Unfortunately a north/south split seems inevitable as fans cant afford to travel great distances anymore and the local meetings are the only ones that can generate a decent attendance level now . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch Me If You Can Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 We're all suffering that way . The crowd at Glasgow last week was about the same as you described last night's attendance to be , and i cant imagine a meeting against Plymouth today will attract any more than that . Unfortunately a north/south split seems inevitable as fans cant afford to travel great distances anymore and the local meetings are the only ones that can generate a decent attendance level now . Yes Think you correct. Berwick have Plymouth next saturday so likely to be in same position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Not been for a few weeks but last night another concern apart from other things highlighted on here was attendance level! I dont think a club can survive on that? Dont know what crowd was but there did not look 500. Apart from last night things have been ok to a level this season. You have a team which looked capable of a top six spot but to survive in any professional sport you need money through the gates.After the totally inept performance from. the Home team last night it is hard to imagine there will be a bigger crowd next week unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Not been for a few weeks but last night another concern apart from other things highlighted on here was attendance level! I dont think a club can survive on that? Dont know what crowd was but there did not look 500. Apart from last night things have been ok to a level this season. You have a team which looked capable of a top six spot but to survive in any professional sport you need money through the gates. Â As you say crowds have been holding up reasonably well this season, though the alarm bells must be ringing for the Promotion when you read customers leaving early last night, maybe not to return. Maybe a new face or two in he team might energise those missing fans to come back, it is to be hoped this isn't going to be a missed chance to strengthen the team and another season left to drift. If that happens crowds will dwindle still further which is the last thing anyone would want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 First off it would be childish not to congratulate Peterborough on their win, with a weakened team they won easily, far quicker out of the gate, far quicker there after and far more willing to put in an effort, in short everything Berwick didn't do. You don't see an away team having so many heat winners all that often, so all credit to Peterborough. Apart from Worrall, the Berwick performance was as bad as the score line suggests, its was shocking, maybe one or two riders have let all the praise they have had up till now go to their head and have become complacent, well if that's the case last night was a real wake up call. Doolan was awful, but his performance was matched by Jensen who was equally abysmal. Carr again struggled, and Bellego looked a shadow of the rider we have seen this season, hopefully in his case this was a one off. My concern is do the Berwick Promotion and/or management have it in them to shake things up a bit, as last nights performance was totally unacceptable and should not be tolerated. No good coming out with the usual party line of "one of those nights" or "never mind it will be better next week", last night needs addressing, so it will be interesting to see what the club comes up with for next weeks visit of Redcar. Maybe the time has come to change things, after next week we have a break due the Cardiff GP, I hope plans are already in place to bring riders in if needed as we have a chance of a decent PL finish this season, it would be a crime if we didn't try and build on a half decent start to our season. Now I love watching the tractors go round, but even I grew tiresome of seeing out after every other race last night, clearly for the second week running there was a problem with the track, though should not give anyone an excuse, how the track team used to do it can we go back to that, what ever they were doing can we go back to doing that, if someone else is doing the track please change it. It is no good pulling out all the stops for FIM or Sky meetings, surely you should put the same effort in for the customers who attend on a weekly bases. All in all a poor nights entertainment that has thrown up many questions, answers that only the Promotion have the answers to. Â Absolutely, everything summed up in just one sentence. Totally agree you would not think Panthers were riding four nights on the trot the match also seemed to drag on for an eternity may be they were hoping the rain would come earlier worst performance from Berwick riders i have seen in a long time.Steve Worrall was everything you could hope for in a guest just glad Flyin Ryan was not riding it would have been even worse well done to the Panthers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Wow.... Did not expect that ...Well done Panthers.They were excellent fast gating and even when they did not gate they were passing .10/10 .That was with half the Team missing too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Totally agree you would not think Panthers were riding four nights on the trot the match also seemed to drag on for an eternity may be they were hoping the rain would come earlier worst performance from Berwick riders i have seen in a long time.Steve Worrall was everything you could hope for in a guest just glad Flyin Ryan was not riding it would have been even worse well done to the Panthers  This meeting would've easily been over before the rain came had we not sat around for what seemed like an eternity during the interval, why did it go on for so long. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 This meeting would've easily been over before the rain came had we not sat around for what seemed like an eternity during the interval, why did it go on for so long. Â Waiting for the tractors to run out of fuel.? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 I'm not surprised to hear there was a stampede for the exits well before the end. Berwick folk have gotta be the most fickle fans in speedway. Was at the meeting and could not argue with the ones who left early it was total crap from Berwick and as Kenny and the third bend were chanting what a lot of rubbish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Waiting for the tractors to run out of fuel.? Â The amount of times they were out last night they wouldn't have lasted much longer. Thing is, for all their laps I couldn't see the track improving as the meeting went on, time to get the track to where is was prior to the FIM meeting IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Nikolaj Busk Jakobson would be a great long term signing, team mate of Claus in Denmark and already beating good riders and only 19 years old. Sometimes you need to take a step back to take 2 steps forward. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Nikolaj Busk Jakobson would be a great long term signing, team mate of Claus in Denmark and already beating good riders and only 19 years old. Sometimes you need to take a step back to take 2 steps forward. Â Good point, though signing a rider of that age, it will mean missing meetings for Under-21`s, Danish Junior and Senior Champs etc, and we already have that with Bellego. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Â Good point, though signing a rider of that age, it will mean missing meetings for Under-21`s, Danish Junior and Senior Champs etc, and we already have that with Bellego. Â I know what you mean but i still recokon it would be worth it long term to get riders of such quality as assets, in a couple of years riders like him and Bellego should be top draw PL riders and will be over 21 so meetings missed will be minimal. If we don't take a chance on him then i guarantee someone else will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Not really, if Matej Kus had been there, he would have scored 24, instead of Worrall's paltry 15 Â Â Quite a bit Doolan bashing going on here, despite being second top scorer tonight, and matching his current GSA, (or 1/2 pt less than starting average) You don't have to watch Doolan .He was our No 1 at the start of the season on paper.But it is a strength in depth Team (only if the riders ride to their average) which Doolan is clearly not doing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSnob Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Kevin Doolan is getting a total slagging here from folk....but i feel the slagging should be aimed at Liam Carr...he aint good enough for premier league racing, end of. Dunno if people are afraid to say it or something but he needs to go back to national league racing for a bit, would help him in the long run. The atmosphere at Berwick Speedway is utterly dead, flat and full of moaning people!!! You being us all down! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Â I know what you mean but i still recokon it would be worth it long term to get riders of such quality as assets, in a couple of years riders like him and Bellego should be top draw PL riders and will be over 21 so meetings missed will be minimal. If we don't take a chance on him then i guarantee someone else will. Â Point taking and your right bringing in a young rider with potential as an asset is always a plus though maybe that could've been done when putting this years team together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Â This meeting would've easily been over before the rain came had we not sat around for what seemed like an eternity during the interval, why did it go on for so long. Waiting for that old codger on the centre green to come out off the loo , at his age it take a wee bit longer these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 You don't have to watch Doolan .He was our No 1 at the start of the season on paper.But it is a strength in depth Team (only if the riders ride to their average) which Doolan is clearly not doing.  Doolan was the worst of a bad bunch last night but we shouldn't be lying the blame for last nights debacle solely at his door , though he has been consistently poor this season, maybe he fancies a shot a reserve. Waiting for that old codger on the centre green to come out off the loo , at his age it take a wee bit longer these days  Its a fate that awaits us all, though some are a bit nearer than others, I cant wait for the dribbling stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havenagotahope Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Nikolaj Busk Jakobson would be a great long term signing, team mate of Claus in Denmark and already beating good riders and only 19 years old. Sometimes you need to take a step back to take 2 steps forward. Got it one looking to ride UK no doubt we will miss out on a talent yet again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Doolan was the worst of a bad bunch last night but we shouldn't be lying the blame for last nights debacle solely at his door , though he has been consistently poor this season, maybe he fancies a shot a reserve. Â Its a fate that awaits us all, though some are a bit nearer than others, I cant wait for the dribbling stage. He certainly was the only Bandit to get passed,the rest were never at the races,excusing Claus who was bursting a gut .Waiting for that old codger on the centre green to come out off the loo , at his age it take a wee bit longer these daysThink he was choking in the toilet.!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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