OILYRAG Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 (edited) Stead , no complaints Poole , expensive average wise for the points return , and should be getting back in the swing by now , not to mention how unreliable his bikes are. Lanham , same as Poole and not even doing it on the tric tracks that he is supposed to be good on Compton , didn;t do it at reserve ... so not gonna do it in the team Procter, nightmare Nielson , 4 points is a decent night for him which says it all but there is signs of improvement. Bates , scores plenty of points ... for any team apart from Sheffield This is not a pop at the new promotion because it looked a decent team on paper before the season started. Not got any names as replacements but somethings got to happen ! Edited June 22, 2014 by OILYRAG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony The Tiger Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 (edited) IMO we shouldn't have got rid of Roynon in the first place. As for who, the obvious shout would be Ben Wilson for possibly a reserve berth. Saying that, Nielsen seems to be slightly improving and it's Bates who's a cause for concern now. Other than that, I'd get rid of Proctor possibly for another double-downer! Robert Lambert maybe needs PL racing to improve at EL level?? Edited June 22, 2014 by Tony The Tiger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 Shouldn't have got rid of Roynon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILYRAG Posted June 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 (edited) Shouldn't have got rid of Roynon As its turned out though we would have had to replace Roynon anyway. Edited June 22, 2014 by OILYRAG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japser Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 Where's the fuel coming from?............Anybody? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlieboy Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 I think its inevitable that changes will be made when the next averages come out.I cant see how proctor is scoring more in the All stars ( elite ) league than he does for us in the premier !!!!!!!! I would keep him on a 6 point average though.Lanham and poole have not pulled up too many trees with poole more likely to be replaced as lanham has connections with the promotion.Are the new promotion going to take a chance on a young Pole,Swede or Dane ? Who could we get in ? Anton Rosen would do a job for my money but is he available Thursdays ? Anders Mellgren ? Whatever happens the promotion wont be sat doing nothing about it. A losing team is not good for business. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 Roynon wouldn't have made a difference though? He's been awful for a long time now, yes injurys played a part, but he's still been nowhere near his average consistently, this season he was averaging 4. Odd but riding over 7 then just under. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 I think everybody knows that something needs to be done and we going have to make changes. I am not too sure where I would make the changes but I think that realistically to improve the team and who and which riders would be available is not clear. But looking at the riders true averages for fixtures for this season, these will be nothing like the rolling ones that they use for Team Building purposes, but give a true reflections of the scores that when they have ridden for Sheffield this season. Simon Stead Home Average 10.22 Away Average 8.91 Overall Average 9.58 Leigh Lanham Home Average 6.30 Away Average 4.88 Overall Average 5.60 Ty Proctor Home Average 4.33 Away Average 4.44 Overall Average 4.38 Andre Compton Home Average 6.50 Away Average 5.63 Overall Average 6.13 Taylor Poole Home Average 4.14 Away Average 3.23 Overall Average 3.67 Simon Nielsen Home Average 3.38 Away Average 3.27 Overall Average 3.33 Josh Bates Home Average 3.60 Away Average 4.16 Overall Average 3.85 Adam Roynon Home Average 5.85 Away Average 5.33 Overall Average 5.60 All of those averages do not include bonus points. Looking at those figures only Simon Stead, Andre Compton and Josh Bates are performing to their true potential, the rest were or are not doing that and that is where we possibly need to see changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerowl Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 Lanham has been awful. Poole looks promising in patches but his bikes seem too unreliable and its frustrating to see Josh top scoring for Leicester and picking up only the odd point for us. As for Proctor, a total disaster so far but I think he'll come good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBSC Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 hope sheffield make the right changes to make them more competitive, but wait until after the cup match on thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJC71 Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 Proctor was making starts tonight but didn't appear to have the speed and was being passed to easily. If he is struggling for speed at a tight track like Brough then he is bound to find it tough at Sheffield. Absolutely no lack of effort though and he is obviously a miles better rider than he is showing at the moment. Must be massively frustrating for him. Hope he can turn it around soon as he should be a strong heat leader in the PL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIAMONDS Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 Stead , no complaints Poole , expensive average wise for the points return , and should be getting back in the swing by now , not to mention how unreliable his bikes are. Lanham , same as Poole and not even doing it on the tric tracks that he is supposed to be good on Compton , didn;t do it at reserve ... so not gonna do it in the team Procter, nightmare Nielson , 4 points is a decent night for him which says it all but there is signs of improvement. Bates , scores plenty of points ... for any team apart from Sheffield This is not a pop at the new promotion because it looked a decent team on paper before the season started. Not got any names as replacements but somethings got to happen ! You're starting to sound like me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 You're starting to sound like me He is about 1024.5 team permutations, short of you atm though, so your still infront, well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadrianDog Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 IMO we shouldn't have got rid of Roynon in the first place. As for who, the obvious shout would be Ben Wilson for possibly a reserve berth. Saying that, Nielsen seems to be slightly improving and it's Bates who's a cause for concern now. Other than that, I'd get rid of Proctor possibly for another double-downer! Robert Lambert maybe needs PL racing to improve at EL level?? But for the so-called MC of the BSPA, he would now be a Diamond pushing for full international honours- something they seem to find less important than balancing their own personal agendas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 But for the so-called MC of the BSPA, he would now be a Diamond pushing for full international honours- something they seem to find less important than balancing their own personal agendas. if the rules allowed lambert to double up I would hazard a guess everyman and his dog would had tried to sign him ,FACTS are the RULES don't allow it newcastle were never going to get away with it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 (edited) Stead , no complaints Poole , expensive average wise for the points return , and should be getting back in the swing by now , not to mention how unreliable his bikes are. Lanham , same as Poole and not even doing it on the tric tracks that he is supposed to be good on Compton , didn;t do it at reserve ... so not gonna do it in the team Procter, nightmare Nielson , 4 points is a decent night for him which says it all but there is signs of improvement. Bates , scores plenty of points ... for any team apart from Sheffield This is not a pop at the new promotion because it looked a decent team on paper before the season started. Not got any names as replacements but somethings got to happen ! How can you say Compton is not performing ,forget the level of rider he was (in part 1 of his career) and accept the rider he is now .LL sadly needs a small home track and would be a candidate for asking to move on along with Proctor who just cannot put it together in the PL.Poole IMO will come good but needs some decent kit and maybe his confidence will improve . Edited June 23, 2014 by FAST GATER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 Lanhams knocking on now, sad to see him struggling as he was brilliant for newport. His three seasons with us he was one of the most exciting Wasps , certainly wasnt the gating tart he was made out to be made a few passes most meetings inside and out, his races with joe screen were superb. Was a class performer in the pl days for arena too, was one of the best riders in the league when i first started attending. Very sad to see him scoring 1's and 2's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 (edited) But for the so-called MC of the BSPA, he would now be a Diamond pushing for full international honours- something they seem to find less important than balancing their own personal agendas. Nonsense. It is quite clear in the sports regulations that riders on assessed averages can't double up. You'd think that your promoter (who is also on the MC) would know that, so if anyone had an agenda it was him. Proctor was making starts tonight but didn't appear to have the speed and was being passed to easily. If he is struggling for speed at a tight track like Brough then he is bound to find it tough at Sheffield. Absolutely no lack of effort though and he is obviously a miles better rider than he is showing at the moment. Must be massively frustrating for him. Hope he can turn it around soon as he should be a strong heat leader in the PL. Proctor started disastrously for Plymouth last season but after a few weeks was the No1 they signed him to be. I think he can turn it around. Edited June 23, 2014 by Halifaxtiger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerite Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 (edited) Proctor started disastrously for Plymouth last season but after a few weeks was the No1 they signed him to be. I think he can turn it around. I do too, no lack of effort from Ty but he does seem to be down on speed, hopefully this can be sorted soon. Arguably Ty is getting harder racing in the 5 slot in the Premier League than the 4 slot in the Elite League, certainly Josh Bates is given his scores for Leicester and scores for us. Think Lanham and Poole are more cause for concern. After last night the Lanham/Compton partnership clearly doesn't work as they kept getting in each other's way and allowed the Newcastle riders to get away. Edited June 23, 2014 by Tigerite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerish Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 Agree with Tigerite, try Lanham and Proctor together with Compton at 5. Alternatively Compton and Proctor together with a new number 5. Poole down to reserve is a possibility also, but unsure who should go Bates or Neilsen. Change is required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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