DSC67 Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 Ok time to put a lid on this I think its been done to death now , normal service needs to be resumed , can we get back to arguing about the state of the track or which rider is for the chop this week ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 Can you all now let it drop. This has dragged on long enough  Maybe they had little choice why???... It's a massive thing that has happened or been alleged, right or wrong why can't we discuss it??... Berwick only released a statement a matter of hours ago!! And the meeting was only 2 days ago.If you don't like the topic discussed or that folk may differ to you, then don't read it?? Or put me or others on ignore... Or better still, Let's brush it under the carpet eh and believe who we want to believe, rather than wanting the truth. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 Berwick only released a statement a matter of hours ago!! And the meeting was only 2 days ago. Â And do you think that might be due to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014  And do you think that might be due to? well if it was due to lawsons tweet.... It doesn't answer it at all?? It's coming from the lines of apologising for the delay(s) ... Not what has been said/rumoured/alledged by Lawson... If it's true and being swept under the carpet then that's wrong and if Lawson is wrong then he needs to be asked to explain himself and either way could have a massive role in moving forward in the sport around social media and the competence and safety checks across the board at meetings.  We arnt talking some office first aider here, we a talking a paramedic being fit for work to treat those whos life could possibly be in danger at a high octane, high risk motor sport...If this was you or your family being treat at the roadside would it not ring alarm bells?? Why should a speedway meeting be any different??... Neglect of duty is massive in care and health professions or those who have a duty of care to others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 well if it was due to lawsons tweet.... It doesn't answer it at all?? Â It's coming from the lines of apologising for the delay(s) ... Not what has been said/rumoured/alledged by Lawson... If it's true and being swept under the carpet then that's wrong and if Lawson is wrong then he needs to be asked to explain himself and either way could have a massive role in moving forward in the sport around social media and the competence and safety checks across the board at meetings. Â We arnt talking some office first aider here, we a talking a paramedic being fit for work to treat those whos life could possibly be in danger at a high octane, high risk motor sport...If this was you or your family being treat at the roadside would it not ring alarm bells?? Why should a speedway meeting be any different??... Neglect of duty is massive in care and health professions or those who have a duty of care to others. Completely missed the point there. Obviously due to them getting a full understanding of the events, and posting up a very good response. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 Completely missed the point there. Obviously due to them getting a full understanding of the events, and posting up a very good response. ok 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadrianDog Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 It appears -- and we do not wish to breach confidences -- he is experiencing acute personal emotional problems which were severely compounded by a family telephone call during the meeting, which affected him to such an extent he felt no longer able to carry out his official duties.   http://www.berwickbandits.co/article/bandits-boss-apologises  It does actually. The forum/social culture and the need to know every detail is quite repulsive. Actually I would like to know the details! Especially whether the seriousness of the 'emotional problems' may have resulted in some 'dutch courage' being self prescribed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadrianDog Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Utter nonsense. Read the Berwick statement and show a bit of respect. Actually I am {as many on here are} still waiting for a clear statement 'he had not been drinking and was not under the influence of' from the Berwick management. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Ok time to put a lid on this I think its been done to death now , normal service needs to be resumed , can we get back to arguing about the state of the track or which rider is for the chop this week ? Â There is no argument about the track, last Saturday it was poor. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Ok time to put a lid on this I think  Its a shame the Doc didnt keep the lid on it on Saturday eh!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkafag Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 (edited) Actually I would like to know the details! Especially whether the seriousness of the 'emotional problems' may have resulted in some 'dutch courage' being self prescribed. Â if you are one of the people who get their thrills from knowing peoples personal problems watch Jeremy Kyle, that show as made for people like you. In this instance it is pretty clear that what is going on in the person involveds life is absolutely none of your business. Edited June 24, 2014 by sparkafag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch Me If You Can Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Â if you are one of the people who get their thrills from knowing peoples personal problems watch Jeremy Kyle, that show as made for people like you. In this instance it is pretty clear that what is going on in the person involveds life is absolutely none of your business. I think about time the site moderators closed this section on the meeting 21st June, rightly or wrongly it has gone on long enough. Â Actually I am {as many on here are} still waiting for a clear statement 'he had not been drinking and was not under the influence of' from the Berwick management. Dont suppose they even know? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 bigeddiecheck the only nonsense is you being completely biased to the management. The fact the alcohol issue isn't mentioned in the statement doesn't help clear the matter up in my opinion. PM me & we will discuss this further Saturday if you like because i am coming up for the Peterborough meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch Me If You Can Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 bigeddiecheck the only nonsense is you being completely biased to the management. The fact the alcohol issue isn't mentioned in the statement doesn't help clear the matter up in my opinion. PM me & we will discuss this further Saturday if you like because i am coming up for the Peterborough meeting. You will have a few riders who no doubt go well on the big Berwick track-Fisher, Bjerre, Ostergaard and of course Barrett returns. Blackbird could be they key factor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMYAMBANDIT Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 You will have a few riders who no doubt go well on the big Berwick track-Fisher, Bjerre, Ostergaard and of course Barrett returns. Blackbird could be they key factor Berwick will have to watch out for Nicky, he has something to prove. I have admitted I would have kept him, as i believe he would have found his potential again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadrianDog Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 (edited) if you are one of the people who get their thrills from knowing peoples personal problems watch Jeremy Kyle, that show as made for people like you. In this instance it is pretty clear that what is going on in the person involveds life is absolutely none of your business. This person adversely affected an entire stadium full of people and if they were incapacitated in some way prior to or during the meeting, then also the safety of the riders. I actually detest the Jeremy Kyle style programme, but this is a medical professional we are talking about and it is not unreasonable to have a clear response from Berwick. Edited June 24, 2014 by HadrianDog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 This person adversely affected an entire stadium full of people and if they were incapacitated in some way prior to or during the meeting, then also the safety of the riders. I actually detest the Jeremy Kyle style programme, but this is a medical professional we are talking about and it is not unreasonably to have a clear response from Berwick. Â Berwick Speedway have made their statement, I doubt very much they will be adding to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch Me If You Can Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Â Berwick Speedway have made their statement, I doubt very much they will be adding to it. If the person concerned signed in as medically fit as I think they need do, there would have been no reason to check him? I imagine the problem would only have arisen once he announced his decision to withdraw. Apart from meeting refs who I think have powers to test for alcohol I dont suppose anyone else could and I imagine there was no complaint raised by the meeting official? I honestly think the matter is now over with one way or another. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Â if you are one of the people who get their thrills from knowing peoples personal problems watch Jeremy Kyle, that show as made for people like you. In this instance it is pretty clear that what is going on in the person involveds life is absolutely none of your business. I'm sorry - I can't read this Post. :sad: Â I should have gone to Specsavers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orderly Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 The only people who have to sign in that they are medically fit to carry out their duties are the riders who will be participating in the meeting, the only criteria that affects all persons involved in the running of the meeting including track staff and the medics is that there is a ZERO tolerance to alcohol & social drugs and in fact any member of staff from the Promoter to the track raker can be tested for drug & alcohol use.  As far as the use of mobile phones is concerned I always carried mine with me to speedway & grass track meetings mainly to inform the nearest A&E unit and the ambulance control for that area that a meeting was taking place and inform them how many competitor's where taking part and the level of medical cover we had at the track together with my name and my registration number  Why has a new thread been started to carry on knocking the Paramedic, it has already been explained that he received some bad news about his family, and as a Paramedic for over 20 years I have seen first hand, how shock can affect people in different ways, what would your reaction be if you received news that there was a family crisis, I would want to get to my family as soon as possible to the exclusion of all others.  Give the man a break his family comes above everything else, even speedway.  The person who should get the stick is the person who started all this with an unqualified post on a social media site and all of the sheep who followed his lead 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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