skoobie Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irk Deflector Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Interesting to see Rick & Julie in attendance, but not see Mick Horton after 7 o'clock.Rick bailing out the Panthers again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Obviously I`m not there every week, but there looked a fairly decent crowd there last Tuesday. Main stand was quite well populated, though not many along back straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Crowd levels I would say are worryingly low. Many that prefer Elite League have voted with their feet, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Crowd levels I would say are worryingly low. Many that prefer Elite League have voted with their feet, Â Peterborough`s speedway fans need to realise what they have in the EoES, fantastic facilities and decent racing, maybe a Tuesday race night isn't the most popular but it would be a shame if there was to be another winter of uncertainty for Peterborough Speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted June 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 (edited) Rick bailing out the Panthers again? Â Protecting his investment as the owner and allegedly doing what many don't or can't do in that the sums add up? Â Peterborough`s speedway fans need to realise what they have in the EoES, fantastic facilities and decent racing, maybe a Tuesday race night isn't the most popular but it would be a shame if there was to be another winter of uncertainty for Peterborough Speedway. Â Those of us who turn up regularly do but your view is rather simplistic! Edited June 19, 2014 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 (edited) Crowd levels I would say are worryingly low. Many that prefer Elite League have voted with their feet, The racing has been good probably better than the elite, but nothing better than watching those crazy poles round the showground Rick bailing out the Panthers again? That's was the rumour circulating Edited June 19, 2014 by hans fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Arguably the racing is better than Elite although I would not necessarily agree. However its a bit like saying that Spurs, Arsenal or Man U fans prefer the Championship because the football is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Arguably the racing is better than Elite although I would not necessarily agree. However its a bit like saying that Spurs, Arsenal or Man U fans prefer the Championship because the football is better. I think we're lucky no matter what league we're in we'll see decent racing , trouble is I doubt it's sustainable at any level considering the costs of running a meeting at the showground L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 (edited) I think we're lucky no matter what league we're in we'll see decent racing , trouble is I doubt it's sustainable at any level considering the costs of running a meeting at the showground L Therein lies the trouble, Speedway has continually been dumbed down to the lowest common denominator and thence to the point of oblivion. Those like RF who had any vision or ambition and the means to carry it through have been driven out of the sport. Edited June 19, 2014 by wealdstone 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantherman Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Therein lies the trouble, Speedway has been continually been dumbed down to the lowest common denominator and thence to the point of oblivion. Those like RF who had any vision or ambition and the means to carry it through have been driven out of the sport. 100% agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted June 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 (edited) I think we're lucky no matter what league we're in we'll see decent racing , trouble is I doubt it's sustainable at any level considering the costs of running a meeting at the showground   Does make you wonder why MH had another go when he knew what it was like:  "In an official statement, Colin Horton said: "An agreement has been made between Mick and myself to transfer the interests of the club to me. "Mick has spent the last three seasons maintaing Peterborough's presence in the Elite League and he felt a financial injection was needed to sustain the club's existence. "This purchase will safeguard the future of Peterborough Speedway and allow the club to move forward. "I would like to thank Mick for all the hard work he has put into the club and I am confident we can take it on to the next level." PT 26/5/05)  CH did take us to the next level (apparently making a shedful in 2006) with Bratley in tow and an alleged thriving commercial side. Bratley said a long time ago that crowds alone could not sustain Peterborough and he also worked hard on presentation as well, even if I didn't like it all. Look at the overall product since then. Never quite there with Rick until the last few months of 5 years and only Newcastle in 2014 worked due to Sky and a cheap admission crowd who found the gates locked if they returned next time! Edited June 19, 2014 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stemoc Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Which Elite league, we haven't got one in this Country any more, not when you compare it to the Swedish League , now that is speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Which Elite league, we haven't got one in this Country any more, not when you compare it to the Swedish League , now that is speedway That is the result of the the BSPA's perceived panacea of increasing admission prices whilst watering down the product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted June 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Which Elite league, we haven't got one in this Country any more, not when you compare it to the Swedish League , now that is speedway  Well let's say that I'd rather have Hans Andersen (our asset) at no1 than Ryan Fisher for starters, that's not gonna happen in the PL is it? That's before you perm some of our other quality assets riding elsewhere into a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 The racing has been good probably better than the elite, but nothing better than watching those crazy poles round the showground  That's was the rumour circulating  Looks bad when people involved in the running the club suddenly find they have "other commitments". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted June 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Looks bad when people involved in the running the club suddenly find they have "other commitments". Â Why? It is Peterborough after all, they can't do anything right. You must have noticed over the last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Why? It is Peterborough after all, they can't do anything right. You must have noticed over the last few years.What I can't fathom is why the club is so poorly supported (if what I read is true)that produces such good entertainment on a great track.Think speedway in general is really struggling . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted June 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 (edited) What I can't fathom is why the club is so poorly supported (if what I read is true)that produces such good entertainment on a great track.Think speedway in general is really struggling .  Although it's more complicated that this, this is a good starting point: Frost added (28/10/13): “Crowd levels were disastrous in the first part of the season. They went up as the team began to perform well" - one good year in fourteen (2006) has taken it's toll! Edited June 19, 2014 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014  Although it's more complicated that this, this is a good starting point: Frost added (28/10/13): “Crowd levels were disastrous in the first part of the season. They went up as the team began to perform well" - one good year in fourteen (2006) has taken it's toll! We've had some good teams and should have done a lot better than we have , a decent manager can make a world of difference from the moment sully took over last season you could see the difference in a instant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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