Sgp Challenge Final Sat 20th Sept

[smiles]

Does it matter where the top 15 come from if there the best available?

No it doesn't. If Nicki and Bjerre qualify top 8 and then Kildmenad and Hans get through the challenge and to a lesser (Mads and Klindt) i still believe Jepsen Jenson should have a wild card..

If some countries only have one then so be it (GB has been like that for years)(the country who out numbered other countries in the early years)

We will have something to moan about if the two italians get through from the challenge.

 

Now Aj has put himself back into the top 8 scenario, Him and smolinksi have one a GP this year that should mean a good chance of the wild card,reading articles there could be a German grand prix next year they would prefer a Grand prix with two germans in and not one. Speedway GP would love Smolinksi to get through the challenge and save them a wild card headache( He does bring fans with him also)

 

Roll on next week for the challenge and then we can all start the debate again

[JT]

I can't argue with that. On a different note---I have been critical in the past of Chris Harris for his inconsistency, particularly at International level. However, his recent league scores have been top-drawer so I would like to wish him good luck in the GP Challenge next week.

Granted Harris has improved in the Elite League, but at Grand Prix level he is frankly awful, to the extent that he's barely ahead of riders who have ridden in less than half the rounds he has. Whilst I would never wish a rider bad fortune, I hope the real Harris turns up at the Grand Prix Challenge and he fails to qualify. The thought of him plodding around for another year, when you have so many exciting, world class riders around, doesn't bear thinking about really.

 

JT.

[J_D]

There is going to be some disappointed riders it's going to be all dependent on the GP challenge result.

 

Personally I would like. Janusz K, THJ and Kildemand qualify from the challenge and for the picks to be Iversen 100% banker, Smolinski for the variety and entertainment, he has brought much to the series off the track purely from being German and unconventional. He is not a plastic clone that some of the other riders are. Then the 3rd it's a difficult one with it being one of the 3 I mentioned as my challenge picks if they fail to qualify because someone like Andersen (my dark horse) who is great at Lonigo does.

 

Personally I would be refreshing the line up by removing Lindgren / Jonsson and Bjerre if not top 8, Hampel and Harris. Although for commercial reasons I could see AJ being picked ahead of THJ.

Edited September 14, 2014 by J_D

[Fromafar]

hope Kildemand gets through as his riding has improved so much last night was no flash in the pan form.Exciting and entertaining just what is needed,Aj,Chris Harris and "slow" Freddie are just not doing enough in GP 's.

[racers and royals]

September 20th.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ballot N° Rider FMN Country

1 Chris Harris ACU Great Britain

2 Kenneth Bjerre DMU Denmark

3 (Wild Card) Nicolas Covatti FMI Italy

4. Cameron Woodward MA Australia

5 Hans Andersen DMU Denmark

6 Linus Sundstrom SVEMO Sweden

7 Maciej Janowski PZM Poland

8 Mads Korneliussen DMU Denmark

 

9 Matej Zagar AMZS Slovenia

10 Janusz Kolodziej PZMPoland

11 (Wild Card) Mattia Carpanese FMI Italy

12 Peter Kildemand DMU Denmark

13 Tomas H. Jonasson SVEMO Sweden

14 Przemyslaw Pawlicki PZM Poland

15 Jason Doyle MA Australia

16 Nicolai Klindt DMU Denmark

17 (Reserve) Martin Smolinski DMSB Germany

 

18 (Reserve) Oliver Berntzon SVEMO Sweden

Edited September 14, 2014 by racers and royals

[Ghostwalker]

September 20th.

 

 

 

Start list was just published by FIM

 

 

 

Ballot N° Rider FMN Country

1 Chris Harris ACU Great Britain

2 Kenneth Bjerre DMU Denmark

3 (Wild Card) Nicolas Covatti FMI Italy

4. Cameron Woodward MA Australia

5 Hans Andersen DMU Denmark

6 Linus Sundstrom SVEMO Sweden

7 Maciej Janowski PZM Poland

8 Mads Korneliussen DMU Denmark

 

9 Matej Zagar AMZS Slovenia

10 Janusz Kolodziej PZMPoland

11 (Wild Card) Mattia Carpanese FMI Italy

12 Peter Kildemand DMU Denmark

13 Tomas H. Jonasson SVEMO Sweden

14 Przemyslaw Pawlicki PZM Poland

15 Jason Doyle MA Australia

16 Nicolai Klindt DMU Denmark

17 (Reserve) Martin Smolinski DMSB Germany

 

18 (Reserve) Oliver Berntzon SVEMO Sweden

 

do you have a link?

[racers and royals]

do you have a link?

I just brought your post nearer the last page-sorry for the confusion.

[New Science]

WION the Swedish Championship

Wow ! won world u21 NO

won world cup NO

won a GP NO

SWEDISH YES ! maybe that's why he is 'almost certain' for a wild card !

Edited September 14, 2014 by New Science

[racers and royals]

Wow ! won world u21 NO

won world cup NO

won a GP NO

SWEDISH YES ! maybe that's why he is 'almost certain' for a wild card !

I f you read Phil`s post again, he says he a certaintity IF AJ or lindgren do not qualify by right in the top 8. which in my view is a fair enough statement as BSI/FIM have a history of wanting 2 Swedes in the series.

[OveFundinFan]

I can remember World Finals with no or next to no British participation, but they still drew massive gates. But...would 40,000 go to Cardiff if there was no British interest?. I agree each GP should field the top 15 or better still top 16 riders, but in all honesty in the "good old days" there was never a World Final which tracked the World's top 16.

I would, but I cant speak for the other 39,998

 

I want to see the top 15 riders (plus a wild card) in the world ride.

Sadly, this year, nor last year, are the top riders in the world in the GP's.

[customhouseregular]

I would, but I cant speak for the other 39,998

 

I want to see the top 15 riders (plus a wild card) in the world ride.

Sadly, this year, nor last year, are the top riders in the world in the GP's.

In the history of speedway it's a sad truism that we don't always get what we want.

[waiheke1]

I can remember World Finals with no or next to no British participation, but they still drew massive gates. But...would 40,000 go to Cardiff if there was no British interest?. I agree each GP should field the top 15 or better still top 16 riders, but in all honesty in the "good old days" there was never a World Final which tracked the World's top 16.

Surely the only British world final that meets this criteria was odsal in 85 (just tatum)? All the others from memory had at least 3 brits.

Not sure the crowd was "massive", seem to recall john berry lost a load of money buying tickets to resell, but then carter's injury dropped thousands off the gate.

[customhouseregular]

I was not necessarily talking about British World Finals or Finals I had personally attended. But I am talking from memory without recourse to stats so I may be talking b...s. I suppose massive is a subjective adjective but if one disregards Cardiff, what is the average GP attendance?. The Polish rounds will help keep the average up I guess. I can remember Wembley finals where to all extents and purposes there was no prospect of a British winner, but the attendance was still over 40,000. It still begs the question...If Cardiff fielded the World's top 16 and none were British, would they still attract 40,000?.

[DutchGrasstrack]

I always thought that the 'next in line' rider is the one that ranked after the rider that will be replaced from their raceoff.

 

So Harris is replacing Dudek (Czestochowa RO), and then Berntzon should replace Woodward (Czestochowa RO).

 

This is now confirmed by the FIM

[Ghostwalker]

This is now confirmed by the FIM

 

*edit I found it.

 

http://www.fim-live.com/fileadmin/alfresco/Starting_List_-_501-06_-_Lonigo,_15.09.2014.pdf

Edited September 16, 2014 by Ghostwalker

[RPNY]

Apologies if this has already been asked, but there any chance of this being streamed?

[New Science]

I f you read Phil`s post again, he says he a certaintity IF AJ or lindgren do not qualify by right in the top 8. which in my view is a fair enough statement as BSI/FIM have a history of wanting 2 Swedes in the series.

That was my original point we have World U21 champions,World Cup winners and GP winners waiting in the wings but someone without any of these honours will jump the queue just because of their nationality .

[Ghostwalker]

That was my original point we have World U21 champions,World Cup winners and GP winners waiting in the wings but someone without any of these

honours will jump the queue just because of their nationality .

 

It wouldn't be more then fair when you have in mind all those years Nicholls and Harris got a wild card each because of his nationality.

[mothorsen]

That was my original point we have World U21 champions,World Cup winners and GP winners waiting in the wings but someone without any of these honours will jump the queue just because of their nationality .

This has and always will be the cause. Nationality trumps talent because of the economics.

[johno]

What happens if Matej Zagar finishes in the GP Top 8 & in the top 3 in the GP Challenge. Will the GP number 9 or the 4th Rider in the Challenge get the place in next years GP ??