screm Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 (edited) Gorican:1. Hans Andersen2. Craig Cook3. Linus Sundstroem4. Daniel King5. Jurica Pavlic6. Maciej Janowski7. Mikkel Michelsen8. Troy Batchelor9. Nicola Covatti10. Thomas H. Jonasson11. Peter Kildemand12. Josef Franc13. Ricky Wells14. Janusz Kołodziej15. Martin Smolinski16. Matej Zagar 17. Tomas Suchanek18. Matic Voldrih Częstochowie:1. Patryk Dudek2. Chris Harris3. Jason Doyle4. Kenneth Bjerre5. Peter Ljung6. Przemysław Pawlicki7. Artiom Łaguta8. Mads Korneliussen9. David Bellego10. Vaclav Milik11. Adrian Miedziński12. Cameron Woodward13. Nicolai Klindt14. Oliver Berntzon15. Lewis Bridger16. Piotr Pawlicki 17. Kim Nilsson18. Mathias Schultz Information from Sportewefaty,pl. Edited September 11, 2014 by screm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 How many through from each Semi? Is it 8 each or are there wild cards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 (edited) Looking at the line -ups I have only just realised that Martin Vaculik didn`t enter. How many through from each Semi? Is it 8 each or are there wild cards? Final is in Lonigo-so there will be an Italian riding-depends on Covatti qualifying - so would normally be 8 + 8 or 7 from one of them if covatti goes out-However Speedway.org are saying 6 go through from each semi-so who knows !!! After last years cock up with the qualifiers I hope the FIM make it perfectly clear before the semi`s exactly what the qualification is. Edited June 11, 2014 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 Challenge lineup (as stated by FIM in november 2013):- 6+1 from each semi - 1 CCP wildcard - 1 FMNR wildcard - Top 3 from SEC Although this is (was) to be confirmed, not sure if this has ever been confirmed though. It doesn't make sense though because you would have 17 riders by this calculation lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 (edited) Challenge lineup (as stated by FIM in november 2013): - 6+1 from each semi - 1 CCP wildcard - 1 FMNR wildcard - Top 3 from SEC Although this is (was) to be confirmed, not sure if this has ever been confirmed though. It doesn't make sense though because you would have 17 riders by this calculation lol. It also doesn`t make sense as the final round of the SEC is the night before the Lonigo challenge final. Edit Maybe if Philip Rising is reading this he can ask his contacts(Tony Steele might know) to clarify. Edited June 11, 2014 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 FIM cant start parachuting riders into the GP Challenge, the riders either qualify by right by going through the qualification system or they don't, injuries included. We have two Semi-Finals, surely you take 8+1 from each. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 FIM cant start parachuting riders into the GP Challenge, the riders either qualify by right by going through the qualification system or they don't, injuries included. We have two Semi-Finals, surely you take 8+1 from each. Trouble is how can you sell the meeting to the Italian fans if they haven`t a rider in it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 Challenge lineup (as stated by FIM in november 2013): - 6+1 from each semi - 1 CCP wildcard - 1 FMNR wildcard - Top 3 from SEC Although this is (was) to be confirmed, not sure if this has ever been confirmed though. It doesn't make sense though because you would have 17 riders by this calculation lol. The last set I had back in January says 6+1 from both + top 3 from SEC. Then the basic fmnr wild card. That would add up nicely to 16+2. Just that I have a feeling that sectopthree has been scrapped earlier this year already, they have just not announced it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 Trouble is how can you sell the meeting to the Italian fans if they haven`t a rider in it ? True, but its tough on a rider where he might've got a chance for a GP Challenge place, only to be denied because the Italians are trying to get a few extra through the gate. Its not as if there`s an Italian rider out there good enough to get through to the Challenge meeting by right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 FIM cant start parachuting riders into the GP Challenge, the riders either qualify by right by going through the qualification system or they don't, injuries included. We have two Semi-Finals, surely you take 8+1 from each. What do you mean "start"? Fim have had seeding in world championship qualifiers for 60+ years! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 True, but its tough on a rider where he might've got a chance for a GP Challenge place, only to be denied because the Italians are trying to get a few extra through the gate. Its not as if there`s an Italian rider out there good enough to get through to the Challenge meeting by right. This current system has been in place for years now, if I say six I'm not lying too much. Everyone knows how it works from January, it's not a surprise on race day. It's just something they decided to do and it will stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 What do you mean "start"? Fim have had seeding in world championship qualifiers for 60+ years! This current system has been in place for years now, if I say six I'm not lying too much. Everyone knows how it works from January, it's not a surprise on race day. It's just something they decided to do and it will stick. Just because the FIM have done the wrong thing in previous years, doesn't mean to say they have to do the wrong thing this year, though knowing the FIM they will do as they wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 I agree. But your statement was "Fim can't start..." which indicates that you thought this was something new, which it isnt as fsp and myself have pointed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy The Rebel Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 Looks like semi final 2 is stronger to me should be a good line up in the final plenty of good riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 (edited) The SGP website is saying that it will be 8 + 8 qualifying for the final-depending on Covatti getting in the top 8 in Gorican-if not then they say 7 will go through from 1 of the semi`s with the Italian`s given a wildcard. I emailed the FIM last night asking for clarification-so hopefully will get an answer as too which semi is lined up to have the 7 only qualify from-thus avoiding last years cock-up when Pavlic was left doing the Hokey cokey-was he in or was he out !!!! Edited June 12, 2014 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Kelly 41 Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 All this would be more-acceptable if Covatti was an Italian. Everyone knows he is a Spanish-speaking Argentinean born and bred, riding under a flag of convenience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 The SGP website is saying that it will be 8 + 8 qualifying for the final-depending on Covatti getting in the top 8 in Gorican-if not then they say 7 will go through from 1 of the semi`s with the Italian`s given a wildcard. I emailed the FIM last night asking for clarification-so hopefully will get an answer as too which semi is lined up to have the 7 only qualify from-thus avoiding last years cock-up when Pavlic was left doing the Hokey cokey-was he in or was he out !!!! Had the reply from the FIM this morning-so this is what is happening.-very impressed they responded so quickly. - Gorican: 7 riders qualified for the Challenge + 1 rider as track reserve - Czestochowa: 7 riders qualified for the Challenge + 1 rider as track reserve - 1 wild card nominated by CCP Bureau - 1 FMNR wild card (must be accepted by CCP Bureau) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Had the reply from the FIM this morning. WOW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 WOW! I did ask them very nicely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 I did ask them very nicely I've been in enough correspondence with them in the past few weeks... I would not know nice enough way to ask anything at the moment. Though I have to say that Grecory Ricci fellow seems OK. Hope they dont burn him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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