NJC71 Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 The track was certainly not awful. There are I'm afraid crashes in speedway at every track but when it happens at Newcastle the usual suspects are quick to slag the place off. Looking at the three crashes, Allen overcooked it on bend 3 and slid off. Not a bad crash but unfortunately he dislocated his shoulder. Lewis' crash was the worst. My main criticism of the track is the lack of lines to overtake this season and because of that riders are having at times to go very wide to get grip as we saw with Lewis tonight, trying too hard to overtake and getting too close to the fence. Not sure if his footrest got caught up in the fence but it was a bad accident and unfortunately it seems he may have a broke collarbone. A big blow to both ourselves and King's Lynn as well as to Lewis himself as it obviously rules him out of the British Final tomorrow. Hope he is back soon. The third crash was caused by Aspgren basically not turning into bend one and cleaning up Lewis Rose. Can hardly blame the track for that one. Overall there was some decent racing. Good to see Lindgren back to something like his best. Certainly much more competitive out of the start. Great performance from Chris Mills who gated well and rode with speed and confidence. Also a fine performance from Charles Wright who again was very impressive. Odd night for Nick Morris who has a dislike for the track and threw a number of points away before a good win in heat 15. Cue for Steve Park and Tsunami?!Last week it was the weather... Excuse this week? Of course Berwick is an awesome track. The racing mecca of the North East. There was nothing wrong with the track last week, Berwick just rode badly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits4eva Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 Of course Berwick is an awesome track. The racing mecca of the North East. There was nothing wrong with the track last week, Berwick just rode badly. I'm not bringing Shielfield into this... Rather predictable retaliation tho! Last week several riders were caught out by bend 2 in particular... I was there to see it... I didn't imagine it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrP Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 First of all, hope all of the Injured riders wont be out for too long after there crashes tonight. Kerr's in particular looking a bad one. Get well soon to all of Them. Secondly, the track was awful, In particular bend 2 and finally a rider gets hurt because of the state of that bend, but no doubt we will get told it was 'a rider error'. Absolute nonsense. Overall, diamonds rode well with Mills in particular impressing as did Wright for the Rebels who imo was worth the admission money alone and was always in the thick of it. And yet standing beside you all of the meeting you never once said anything about the track. In fact you were heard by several people saying that there have been some really good races tonight. Very disappointing to see you jump on the bandwagon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 Cue for Steve Park and Tsunami?! Last week it was the weather... Excuse this week? Lacking throttle control not mentioned yet!!!.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJC71 Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 I'm not bringing Shielfield into this... Rather predictable retaliation tho! Last week several riders were caught out by bend 2 in particular... I was there to see it... I didn't imagine it! Be honest you have some sort of agenda against Newcastle for whatever reason. Why else would you post critical remarks about meetings you weren't at, that didn't even involve your team? All a bit pathetic really. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 Decent Meeting tonight. Good wishes to the three injured Riders. I wish them all well and a quick return to racing. Lindgren seems to have come out of the doldrums I'm pleased to say - he looked vastly better tonight. I still wish he would learn to Team Ride though. He shot off and left Mills to fend for himself in one Race - we got a 4-2 instead of a 5-1. A little help from Lindgren would not have gone amiss. Actually - whilst I am on the subject Danny King seems to suffer the same problem as Lindgren. If it were not for Robbo - I would think Team Riding was a thing of the past. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 Surely it can't be a track problem? Has to be rider error got to be the track,,, how else would professionals make mistakes ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits4life Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 And yet standing beside you all of the meeting you never once said anything about the track. In fact you were heard by several people saying that there have been some really good races tonight. Very disappointing to see you jump on the bandwagon. I will admit they were some good races tonight, In particular when a Newcastle rider missed the gate. But I just felt on reflection that bend 2 was causing issues in particular that hole, which I did mention but obviously you didn't hear me say this. Anyway I don't want to say anymore about this, cos next I will be getting the usual 'your anti Newcastle' and all that rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits4eva Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 Be honest you have some sort of agenda against Newcastle for whatever reason. Why else would you post critical remarks about meetings you weren't at, that didn't even involve your team? All a bit pathetic really. No agenda at all against Newcastle riders or there promoter, whom in all honesty most clubs should take a look at because of your recent success these past few years! You don't know me at all to assume what I think! The only thing I don't like is your track... And not just cos I'm that "bitter Berwick fan who watched her team beat last week"... I've been most years since 2001 to build my opinion on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 (edited) Decent Meeting tonight. Good wishes to the three injured Riders. I wish them all well and a quick return to racing. Lindgren seems to have come out of the doldrums I'm pleased to say - he looked vastly better tonight. I still wish he would learn to Team Ride though. He shot off and left Mills to fend for himself in one Race - we got a 4-2 instead of a 5-1. A little help from Lindgren would not have gone amiss. Actually - whilst I am on the subject Danny King seems to suffer the same problem as Lindgren. If it were not for Robbo - I would think Team Riding was a thing of the past. he can,,, but does'nt want you to see it,,, what a shame, like the match depended on it,,, but it might of,,, I will admit they were some good races tonight, In particular when a Newcastle rider missed the gate. But I just felt on reflection that bend 2 was causing issues in particular that hole, which I did mention but obviously you didn't hear me say this. Anyway I don't want to say anymore about this, cos next I will be getting the usual 'your anti Newcastle' and all that rubbish. that that hole has always been there,,, has nobody told the riders ???,,, should maybe put a sign up Edited June 15, 2014 by ruffdiamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 And yet standing beside you all of the meeting you never once said anything about the track. In fact you were heard by several people saying that there have been some really good races tonight. Very disappointing to see you jump on the bandwagon.just a typical poncey keyboard commando then?? love it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadrianDog Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 Decent Meeting tonight. Good wishes to the three injured Riders. I wish them all well and a quick return to racing. Lindgren seems to have come out of the doldrums I'm pleased to say - he looked vastly better tonight. I still wish he would learn to Team Ride though. He shot off and left Mills to fend for himself in one Race - we got a 4-2 instead of a 5-1. A little help from Lindgren would not have gone amiss. Actually - whilst I am on the subject Danny King seems to suffer the same problem as Lindgren. If it were not for Robbo - I would think Team Riding was a thing of the past. I have to agree with TWK on his team riding point. With a little help Millsey might have held off Wright to completely nullify the tactical advantage. But to be fair to Ludo. he has just got his gating gloves back, so some slack in this case may be appropriate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits4life Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 just a typical poncey keyboard commando then?? love it Complete rubbish. You don't know me at all so you suddenly can't come to that conclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJC71 Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 No agenda at all against Newcastle riders or there promoter, whom in all honesty most clubs should take a look at because of your recent success these past few years! You don't know me at all to assume what I think! The only thing I don't like is your track... And not just cos I'm that "bitter Berwick fan who watched her team beat last week"... I've been most years since 2001 to build my opinion on it! I don't particularly like Berwick but I don't go on Berwick threads slagging it off every opportunity I get. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 Complete rubbish. You don't know me at all so you suddenly can't come to that conclusion.Agreed, though it wasn't a statement it was a question...hence the question marks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits4life Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 Agreed, though it wasn't a statement it was a question...hence the question marks. Fair enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Diamond Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 (edited) Excellent win for the Diamonds with Ludvig and Mills joint riders of the meeting for me. Somerset top 4 what we saw were poor Allen few bends was slow unfortunately his night ended without finishing a race. Morris did little when it mattered falls didnt help first two rides and Brady Kurtz was awful, Aspgren was okay first two rides but wasnt missed in 14 Kurt won as his replacement and Rebels got 4-2 anyway.Rebels bottom 3 deserve credit though kept Rebels in the meeting especially Wright used to be awful at Brough not now. Unfortunately Diamonds effort has been overshadowed and the team wont get credit they deserve as would have won comfortably had the 3 injuries not happened in my opinion. Track wasnt at its best for me but wont blame it for injuries Allen fall got out of shape trying to catch Mills, Kerr made a move he didnt need to probably from frustration as he wasnt gating. Even if track was the cause for them Aspgren injury wasnt if he tried that 10 times same thing would happen 10 times in any race at any track almost cut though the grass with the corner he tried. Hope all 3 are back riding soon hate to see injuries worried about Kerr injury we cant cope with RR for him and he was doing so well hope its not as bad as first feared. Edited June 15, 2014 by Big Diamond 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadrianDog Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Another 3 points for the lads against a so-so Rebels team barely a shadow of previous seasons, but the oppo is the oppo and to be honest the Diamonds seem to be on the up thanks to the 'Devine One'. George and his motivational skills maybe had an influence too though. Still believe we have track probs. Maybe the away riders fail to embrace the niceties of our track, but when you see the Kerminator fighting his own bike for control, you have to wonder whether he has miss-judged his bike settings-questionable? or the racing surface has him 'flummixed'-more likely. Suppose his mind could also have been half on the British Final too though. Just my musings and in only a very slight way looking to support a certain Bandits fan as to her query's re. our track surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIAMONDS Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 I have to agree with TWK on his team riding point. With a little help Millsey might have held off Wright to completely nullify the tactical advantage. But to be fair to Ludo. he has just got his gating gloves back, so some slack in this case may be appropriate. Yes he could have stayed and tried to help Mills (who is a vastly experienced rider) and Wright could have passed both of them to make it a 6-3. I think he done the right thing to gate and go to cancel out the tactical ride. He was great tonight and that is the Lindgren I love to see, no complaints from me, that pass that he made on the first bend I think on Aspegren was phenomenal . Also I wish a speedy recovery to all those riders who were withdrawn from the meetings due to injury. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadrianDog Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Yes he could have stayed and tried to help Mills (who is a vastly experienced rider) and Wright could have passed both of them to make it a 6-3. I think he done the right thing to gate and go to cancel out the tactical ride. He was great tonight and that is the Lindgren I love to see, no complaints from me, that pass that he made on the first bend I think on Aspegren was phenomenal . Also I wish a speedy recovery to all those riders who were withdrawn from the meetings due to injury. A good point and a big Yeah from me to your final sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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