SCOTLAND1314 Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 There were a few spills last night is everyone okay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoombdog Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 I wasn't there last night but clearly the crowd was poor again. The non blinkered speedway fans like myself and Steve0 knew this would happen with the fast track draft rubbish or whatever its called. Keeping admission at £17 was a mistake. Its actually a rip off these days. No doubt people would have given it a chance at the start of the season but after seeing riders like Greenwood and Smart poodle around they have obviously thought this ain't worth the money anymore.  The worst thing is that Rosco has said that he didn't vote for it at the AGM but we are stuck with it now and its clearly costing us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Stewart Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 Elite League: Steve Worrall, a hero for my team Edinburgh I know, scored a match-winning 14+2 for Swindon last night. He beat one non-finisher (Sam) and the rest of his points were from reserves (some of whom were non-starters). Elite? Â On the plus side Steve became a dad. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganbike Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 "No doubt people would have given it a chance at the start of the season but after seeing riders like Greenwood and Smart poodle around they have obviously thought this ain't worth the money anymore." Â Do you get a kick of self satisfaction by slagging off riders as if it is all their fault. I take it Ritchings and Grieves would have made the difference in your opinion. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) A long drawn out meeting with all the accidents and hope the riders injuries are not too bad. It is good to see the continued improvement in Simon following Rosco telling him he had to start performing a few weeks ago, and Steve stepped up to having to cover for Nathan. He is also improving each meeting. Â Peter had a hell of a crash in heat 13 and looked a bit second hand as he limped back to the pits. He did not perform as usual but for a couple of weeks he has been trying different lines around the track. What also may of been on his mind is that he has two important meetings this weekend. Â The other "Robins" Jason showed Rosco why he should be a Robin again and if it was not for his visa issue, surely would be a first choice guest if Peter or Troy were unavailable. Â Mads showed in a couple of races that he can still beat others around Blunsdon. Â Nicolai improved throughout the meeting and I would not be surprised if Dak is not available next week that he is back for the meeting against Wolves. Edited June 6, 2014 by A ORLOV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 Was on the first bend was Doyley looking for Batch? was a tough move and i feared for PK a nasty spill. 800 to 900 maybe Orion? certainly more than the Eastbourne match just. I guess it's hard to judge i think we all argee that it was a poor crowd thou ...the way i look at it is how much the 50-50 draw is i remember it being in £250 + a few year ago yesterday it was a mere £130 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 Elite League: Steve Worrall, a hero for my team Edinburgh I know, scored a match-winning 14+2 for Swindon last night. He beat one non-finisher (Sam) and the rest of his points were from reserves (some of whom were non-starters). Elite? Â On the plus side Steve became a dad. Not technically true. He beat Sam Masters in heat 8 too. Valid point thouugh. Â "No doubt people would have given it a chance at the start of the season but after seeing riders like Greenwood and Smart poodle around they have obviously thought this ain't worth the money anymore." Â Do you get a kick of self satisfaction by slagging off riders as if it is all their fault. I take it Ritchings and Grieves would have made the difference in your opinion. ?? Did you read what you quoted? He was "slagging off" the promoters for bringing in the rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoombdog Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 "No doubt people would have given it a chance at the start of the season but after seeing riders like Greenwood and Smart poodle around they have obviously thought this ain't worth the money anymore."  Do you get a kick of self satisfaction by slagging off riders as if it is all their fault. I take it Ritchings and Grieves would have made the difference in your opinion. ?? I have never once slated the actual riders. I have always said its not their fault that they are riding in the EL at this stage. Greenwood was putting more effort in than any other rider this season but he just wasn't ready for top level speedway. So for you suggest i'm blaming the riders is stupid.  The blame lays with people who decided to bring the rule in and still charge £17 to get in. Its not value for money IMO and clearly a lot of other people feel the same. Even during the dreaded post Leigh season when Nicholls was our number 1 and we were rock bottom, we didn't have a crowd anywhere near as bad as the Eastbourne match earlier in the season. The people I know that are staying away blame the draft. Not technically true. He beat Sam Masters in heat 8 too. Valid point thouugh.  Did you read what you quoted? He was "slagging off" the promoters for bringing in the rule. Glad someone understands what I was saying! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krompa Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 Why there was no R/R for North when he crashed and withdrawn? I think it is allowed this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adder Posted June 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 As I have pointed out before, If I go to the Abbey it is as part of a night out, not just to watch the speedway and these days it has become an expensive night out.  £17 admission £2.50 programme £20 cider (5 pints x £4) £20 taxi fares to and from the stadium ---------- £59.50  As I am nearly always out socialising on a Friday and Saturday as well that is an expensive hit before the weekend has even started.  And that is why I, and other former regulars that I know, now have to pick and choose our meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 Elite League: Steve Worrall, a hero for my team Edinburgh I know, scored a match-winning 14+2 for Swindon last night. He beat one non-finisher (Sam) and the rest of his points were from reserves (some of whom were non-starters). Elite? Â On the plus side Steve became a dad. Â And Jacobs improved his average with a 5 paid 6 score and didn't beat a single soul!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliant Robin Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 Why there was no R/R for North when he crashed and withdrawn? I think it is allowed this season? The R/R when a rider pulls out during a meeting gives all those below the injured rider a chance to take his rides. North is 5th in the Swindon averages meaning the reserves only could take his rides. With Greaves out, Worrall could only take 7 rides in total. Â It was a long drawn out one, but only due to the accidents - 3 quite big ones. I didn't think the crowd looked great, but I've seen and expected lower. I'd say there was 1000 just about last night. Â Good to see Simon continuing to look a much improved rider. Hopefully Dak, PK & Greaves are not too bad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Robin Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 Doyle knew exactly what he was doing and took him as far as he could..left him high and dry and i was stood about 25 feet away...looks like he was gunning for Troy and assumed PK was him! Total intent imo Totally agree , there was a crowd of us on the back straight and we all expected Doyle to be excluded. We also had a very good view from where we were. Like Doyle, but didn't appreciate that move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueboy Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 The R/R when a rider pulls out during a meeting gives all those below the injured rider a chance to take his rides. North is 5th in the Swindon averages meaning the reserves only could take his rides. With Greaves out, Worrall could only take 7 rides in total.  It was a long drawn out one, but only due to the accidents - 3 quite big ones. I didn't think the crowd looked great, but I've seen and expected lower. I'd say there was 1000 just about last night.  Good to see Simon continuing to look a much improved rider. Hopefully Dak, PK & Greaves are not too bad  Is it not the same as R/R. 1 above and everyone below?   Totally agree , there was a crowd of us on the back straight and we all expected Doyle to be excluded. We also had a very good view from where we were. Like Doyle, but didn't appreciate that move.  I disagree with that statement. I don't think Doyle should have been excluded. I didn't like the move that was pulled by Doyle as he clearly took PK's line knowing that's exactly where he would be, however, he was in front and the rules as they are say the rider in front can dictate the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 Â Is it not the same as R/R. 1 above and everyone below? Â Â Â I disagree with that statement. I don't think Doyle should have been excluded. I didn't like the move that was pulled by Doyle as he clearly took PK's line knowing that's exactly where he would be, however, he was in front and the rules as they are say the rider in front can dictate the line. Regarding the R/R-no it`s different just riders below. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwaysliders Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 Regarding the crowd there seemed to be more people going on and off the centre green between racing.Is this part of a package/freeloaders or included in admission? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adder Posted June 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) Regarding the crowd there seemed to be more people going on and off the centre green between racing.Is this part of a package/freeloaders or included in admission? Â As far as I am aware it is only sponsors or those who have purchased the Legends Lounge package for the evening who are taken across to the centre green for a couple of heats. Â I assume it would impact on the public liability insurance if you were to allow people across willy nilly. Edited June 6, 2014 by Adder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) I think the Coombdog,Steve,Orion and Spikethebike are totally right,something has to change a different approach and direction.Got there last night the crowd poor,atmosphere poor and lets be honest the entertainment average at best a few races with Doyley in and the Simon pass of Bjerre that was it.The stadium looks tired dated but the thing that struck me was at times i was bored stiff.I love the sport like others on here, but we all have to get our heads out of the sand drastic changes have to be made.Steve Brum thinks things are hunky dory i admire his enthusiasm but evergreen fans are fearing the worse. Edited June 6, 2014 by sidney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 Â Â Â Â Â I disagree with that statement. I don't think Doyle should have been excluded. I didn't like the move that was pulled by Doyle as he clearly took PK's line knowing that's exactly where he would be, however, he was in front and the rules as they are say the rider in front can dictate the line. Unless of course the ref is Margaret Vardy , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 As I have pointed out before, If I go to the Abbey it is as part of a night out, not just to watch the speedway and these days it has become an expensive night out.  £17 admission £2.50 programme £20 cider (5 pints x £4) £20 taxi fares to and from the stadium ---------- £59.50  As I am nearly always out socialising on a Friday and Saturday as well that is an expensive hit before the weekend has even started.  And that is why I, and other former regulars that I know, now have to pick and choose our meetings. Five pints in a couple of hours? I bet you miss half of the racing anyway going backwards and forwards all night to the bogs on the back straight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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