iris123 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Exactly.He surely cannot be allowed to hold a promoters licence again He refutes the claim that "the actions of other people are the cause of the problem we have faced this season".So he admits the problems were their own making,but hopes to be involved with the future promotion.No chance in any senior position,i would say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Hopefully he will run the academy once it gets going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 At least a few months (probably a couple of years) too late, never mind how many thousands of pounds such a delay may have cost him personally. Says he hasn't "given up hope of having some part in the future of the club" ... as a wonderfully experienced and successful rider, of course, that can still be the case by means of advising/coaching current and future riders. But in terms of having any part in the business side of the running of the club, dream on !! Perhaps you would like to explain why not ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) Feel sorry for Mort seems to have been very naive in business dealings. i wish him well. Where as DG was quick to resign his directorship when the $h!t hit the fan. Edited November 7, 2016 by pugwash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthur cross Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Perhaps you would like to explain why not ? From various speedway dealings I had with him a few years ago, plus his part in the abysmal handling of the various chaos (both organisational and financial) surrounding the first season of the Natinal Speedway Stadium, I continue to regard Chris Morton as one of the most hopelessly naive people I've ever encountered when it comes to the business side of running a speedway club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secsy1 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Have a licence again, run the Acadamy? When a business fails, it fails due to collective decisions. With a 10 year partnership, why is it only a one sided fault? You can be the nicest, most welcoming person in the world, but when it comes to a business and it fails, its failed because you let it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry1603 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) I agree that Chris shouldn't have any part in the management of the new operation (whatever that might be), but his experience would be invaluble to younger riders in particular. I hope that there is some way in that he can get involved. Unfortunately, mud sticks in this type of situation, so would suppliers be willing to do business with someone who didn't pay them first time around? I doubt it. It does seem to be disolving into a bickering match though, which isn't good for anyone, especially the club. No doubt George Carswell will be invited to share his opinion soon. Edited November 7, 2016 by Garry1603 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPHEN 333 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Very, very, strong rumour that a Promoter has been found to run Belle Vue on behalf of the BSPA, on a temporary basis for the next two to three years whilst a permanent man is put in place, that promoter is Allan Ham, former promoter at Bradford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Very, very, strong rumour that a Promoter has been found to run Belle Vue on behalf of the BSPA, on a temporary basis for the next two to three years whilst a permanent man is put in place, that promoter is Allan Ham, former promoter at Bradford. That could be a good move, he had some good teams when at Odsal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted November 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Very, very, strong rumour that a Promoter has been found to run Belle Vue on behalf of the BSPA, on a temporary basis for the next two to three years whilst a permanent man is put in place, that promoter is Allan Ham, former promoter at Bradford. INTERESTING. Hadn't heard that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Very, very, strong rumour that a Promoter has been found to run Belle Vue on behalf of the BSPA, on a temporary basis for the next two to three years whilst a permanent man is put in place, that promoter is Allan Ham, former promoter at Bradford. I just cannot see how the BSPA can in anyway be "promoters" of Belle Vue - certainly can understand they desperately want the track to keep going but A they surely haven`t the money in the organisation to fund it B i`m not sure the "constitution" would allow it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 I just cannot see how the BSPA can in anyway be "promoters" of Belle Vue - certainly can understand they desperately want the track to keep going but A they surely haven`t the money in the organisation to fund it B i`m not sure the "constitution" would allow it Could the BSPA be the tennants of the NSS, they sub lease to a promoter thus covering any costs if the new promoter fails to pay the rent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Could the BSPA be the tennants of the NSS, they sub lease to a promoter thus covering any costs if the new promoter fails to pay the rent Don't think the BSPA is a limited company so the members (or possibly MC members) would be collectively responsible for any debts run up. Of course, it would be easy enough to set-up a company for the purposes of running the stadium, but has the BSPA got the money to invest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 From various speedway dealings I had with him a few years ago, plus his part in the abysmal handling of the various chaos (both organisational and financial) surrounding the first season of the Natinal Speedway Stadium, I continue to regard Chris Morton as one of the most hopelessly naive people I've ever encountered when it comes to the business side of running a speedway club. So what you are saying is. All the problems are down to Chris morton.. Right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) So what you are saying is. All the problems are down to Chris morton.. Right ? The clue might be this...."his part in the abysmal handling of the various chaos.." Part, to me means,not all,so someone else(maybe more than one person) has also played a 'part' Edited November 7, 2016 by iris123 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 The Bradford district of Manchester is a mile or so from the NSS, indeed Odsal stadium is only 20 odd miles away. Looks like now even the BSPAces are out in favour of The Bradford Dukes. Makes sense I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) The clue might be this...."his part in the abysmal handling of the various chaos.." Part, to me means,not all,so someone else(maybe more than one person) has also played a 'part' So the fiasco is not all down to Chris morton, right ? which PART as you put it was ? Edited November 7, 2016 by Starman2006 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted November 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 IF an outside party comes in they would still need someone acceptable to the BSPA/SCB to attain a promoter's licence which is the direction I think this is going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 IF an outside party comes in they would still need someone acceptable to the BSPA/SCB to attain a promoter's licence which is the direction I think this is going. I think there is normally only one question asked- show us your bank balance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 So the fiasco is not all down to Chris morton, right ? which PART as you put it was ? The part that Chris Morton was responsible for.He even states it wasn't others.Think though that you are confusing yourself with all these questions lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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