Phil The Ace Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Was the quality of racing not consistent throughout the season then? Every time the camera's were there the racing was by far the best we have seen anywhere on UK shores for many seasons. If I lived locally, that would be enough to get me going weekly. The racing was superb all year. But like other clubs fans only come out the woodwork for play offs and bank holidays. The opening debacle put ppl off and still I see ppl say they refuse to go untill they have proved the track is fixed. The mind boggles with some speedway fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted November 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 STOP muddying the waters, Philippe, by banging on about the Olympic Stadium, and trying to cover your tracks about your unbridled support for the NSS - it is totally irrelevant Yet to see you agree that BV have acted badly over the last few months, irrespective of them being let down by the contractors, by letting it all come to a situation where they lose their licence I WAS only making an analogy about relative waste of taxpayers money regarding BV and the Olympic Stadium. And the fact that the OS is still sucking money out of the public purse while the NSS comparatively is not. I make no apology for unbridled support for the construction of the NSS. Why should I? It is a magnificent achievement and hopefully one that will remain as a speedway venue for many, many years to come. Now more than ever it deserves and requires the support of everyone and, as previously stated, that includes BSI and the FIM, in trying to ensure that at least a couple of 'big meetings are staged there every year. I have also never denied that bad management this year has been a huge factor in the problems that have surfaced. But there is also so much more that has yet to be revealed and may never be so. Lots of people prepared to talk off the record but few on it especially when various parties are threatening to sue each other. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 I WAS only making an analogy about relative waste of taxpayers money regarding BV and the Olympic Stadium. And the fact that the OS is still sucking money out of the public purse while the NSS comparatively is not. I make no apology for unbridled support for the construction of the NSS. Why should I? It is a magnificent achievement and hopefully one that will remain as a speedway venue for many, many years to come. Now more than ever it deserves and requires the support of everyone and, as previously stated, that includes BSI and the FIM, in trying to ensure that at least a couple of 'big meetings are staged there every year. I have also never denied that bad management this year has been a huge factor in the problems that have surfaced. But there is also so much more that has yet to be revealed and may never be so. Lots of people prepared to talk off the record but few on it especially when various parties are threatening to sue each other. A multi million pound facility being open for only 6 months and already gone bust is not a "magnificent achievement". It's absolute failure, nothing else. Your support is as delusional as the outgoing owners. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 (edited) I feel that the losses of the opening meeting fiasco are not the main reason for the failure. How Man City Council allowed Mort and Gordon to take over The NSS with massive debts still outstanding from their previous venue is beyond belief. 'Teeming and Laddling' is the term used i believe. Edited November 5, 2016 by pugwash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Was the quality of racing not consistent throughout the season then? Every time the camera's were there the racing was by far the best we have seen anywhere on UK shores for many seasons. If I lived locally, that would be enough to get me going weekly. Cramming in over a quarter of a seasons home matches in around three weeks due to a ludicrous national fixture list doesnt help people attend.. Add to that 'select teams' regularly turning up (Hougarrd and King seemed to be there every week!) and the standard of racing becomes sadly 'peripheral' in the context of a professional sport. Again not persuading people it was worth attending.. Throw in an admission cost of £25 for an adult and a 13 year old kid to attend a tiny minority sport and you will struggle to get people to attend every time you eventually get a meeting on.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted November 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 A multi million pound facility being open for only 6 months and already gone bust is not a "magnificent achievement". It's absolute failure, nothing else. Your support is as delusional as the outgoing owners. SO you don't agree that British speedway has one of the best venues and tracks in the world and that is something to be proud of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 A multi million pound facility being open for only 6 months and already gone bust is not a "magnificent achievement". It's absolute failure, nothing else. Your support is as delusional as the outgoing owners. it reminds me of the revamped london stadium at hackney. It cost millions to build, but was skint by the time the gates opened. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 it reminds me of the revamped london stadium at hackney. It cost millions to build, but was skint by the time the gates opened. Sounds similar to the Olympic Stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Sounds similar to the Olympic Stadium.the ironic thing is, the revamped hackney stadium was swallowed up as part of the 2012 Olympic development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 A multi million pound facility being open for only 6 months and already gone bust is not a "magnificent achievement". It's absolute failure, nothing else. Your support is as delusional as the outgoing owners. Philip is correct in saying the stadium is a magnificent achievement, I dont see how anyone acn say otherwise. What is not magnificent is how this season has turned out. Most of the posters on this forum have been saying all year (and before) how poorly they think that British speedway is/has been run, contributing to speedway demise in this country and contributing to its lack of growth. I was thinking of next year 2017, starting to go back to BV for meetings, as much as I could afford. However, after the farce at the end of the year where a team was allowed to bring in a rider who hasnt ridden for that team all year, in fact the previous 10 years, changed my mind - and that had noting to do with the way BV was managed. The TW at Wolves was bad enough, but the Poole episode just poisoned my heart. No way am I going to spend my pension on a sport that is badly run, as much as I love to see 4 riders racing at their best. So I dont see the demise of BV being all about how the management at BV managed 2016. I attribute blame on a wider scale. Just have to look at Lakeside, Leicester, Workington, Scunthorpe, Coventry.... and a whole heap of other teams that are struggling to get the regular crowds to sustain speedway. The blame cannot be just with those teams and their individual promotors. My view is - if BV disappears completely, speedway in the UK as a whole will really feel the after shocks, much to the detriment of the sport. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 (edited) SO you don't agree that British speedway has one of the best venues and tracks in the world and that is something to be proud of? track is excellent but as a venue it's not even in the same league as Torun or gorzow Edited November 5, 2016 by THE DEAN MACHINE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 track is excellent but as a venue it's not even in the same league as Torun or gorzow and I believe they cost about the same price to build To build Gorzow and Torun for less than £9M is some going... I could do with getting them lads round to do my extension!! To be fair, its a good job they didn't build a 'Torun' or a 'Gorzow' as 1500 fans each week would certainly have looked a 'tad' sparse... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 (edited) To build Gorzow and Torun for less than £9M is some going... I could do with getting them lads round to do my extension!! To be fair, its a good job they didn't build a 'Torun' or a 'Gorzow' as 1500 fans each week would certainly have looked a 'tad' sparse... I think Torun was £7m , the thing is about those 2 stadiums is they give you goosebumps even when they are empty Edited November 5, 2016 by THE DEAN MACHINE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Thumper Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 My view is - if BV disappears completely, speedway in the UK as a whole will really feel the after shocks, much to the detriment of the sport. These are very wise words, OFF. What I find amazing is that whilst the dream that is/was the National Speedway Stadium is crumbling to dust before our very eyes, the BSPA have their annual jamboree and this disaster doesn't feature much in their rosy summary of what has been achieved. They rattle on about re-branding and multiplying something or other by the number you first thought of and of a "very bright future" but surely one of the most important issues should have been how they intended to save the National Speedway Stadium and in so doing, protect what little remains of British speedway's reputation. Now either there is a very cunning plan which is being hatched and they are working on a need to know basis and clearly we supporters don't need to know or the men in charge are getting the instruments out of their violin cases and preparing to belt out a few tunes while standing round a burning conurbation. I can't say I'm brimming with confidence here but I need to be careful what I say otherwise I will get a verbal lashing for either being a moaner or for being a comedian! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Now either there is a very cunning plan which is being hatched and they are working on a need to know basis and clearly we supporters don't need to know or the men in charge are getting the instruments out of their violin cases and preparing to belt out a few tunes while standing round a burning conurbation. I can't say I'm brimming with confidence here but I need to be careful what I say otherwise I will get a verbal lashing for either being a moaner or for being a comedian! Which would you rather be ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 (edited) I was thinking of next year 2017, starting to go back to BV for meetings, as much as I could afford. However, after the farce at the end of the year where a team was allowed to bring in a rider who hasnt ridden for that team all year, in fact the previous 10 years, changed my mind - and that had noting to do with the way BV was managed. The TW at Wolves was bad enough, but the Poole episode just poisoned my heart. No way am I going to spend my pension on a sport that is badly run, as much as I love to see 4 riders racing at their best. Load of tosh. No matter what don't blame Poole for your lack of motivation. Fact you're lost to the sport NEVER to return, a geriatric keyboard critic, probably best to stay away and reminisce about times gone by along with gluestix and his 'I was there' band. Edited November 5, 2016 by pugwash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Since it was built and named the NSS should all the National Finals and Team Events not be held there.Nice venue ,superb track and let's face it anywhere with speedway in GB is not that far away nowadays with decent Rail and Transport links.That way it might attract new fans to see a major event in the sport.Instead we spread them all over as just another event.We need to promote as the NATIONAL VENUE. The BSPA need to get involved more in the venue.Sounds horrendous what has happened ,but we will never get the right story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Since it was built and named the NSS should all the National Finals and Team Events not be held there.Nice venue ,superb track and let's face it anywhere with speedway in GB is not that far away nowadays with decent Rail and Transport links.That way it might attract new fans to see a major event in the sport.Instead we spread them all over as just another event.We need to promote as the NATIONAL VENUE. The BSPA need to get involved more in the venue.Sounds horrendous what has happened ,but we will never get the right story. You never will get the full story mate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Load of tosh. Not matter what don't blame Poole for your lack of motivation. Fact you're lost to the sport NEVER to return, a geriatric keyboard critic, probably best to stay away and reminisce about times gone by along with gluestix and his band of saddos. Well, that coming from a Poole fan says it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Thumper Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Which would you rather be ? Well, obviously a comedian. But Skid Sprocket doesn't like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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