PHILIPRISING Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 Great SGP last night, best so far, good to see Tai back at the top on his own. Its being going on for a long time now Pedersens terrible moves that put other riders in hospital or with wrecked bikes, hoping he was going to get his nose blooded last night but it wasnt to be. You can understand the other riders point of view, most of these incidents seem to involve pedersen, he has even been known to knock off his own countrymen. Excellent rider with a lot of talent its just a shame he has such a nasty streak, its not just Pedersen that doesent check other riders. Noticed it in Finland as well when smolinski and wuffy came together, the german just went back to the pits and Ive seen it at a few of the league meeting over the last couple of years, riders come together and then just go back to the pits. The sportmanship in sport is slowly going, not just in speedway but most professional sports. I feel this is the way it will go unless the people in charge start to do something about it. Well done Wuffy, bring it back to Britain again. Like the chat in the studio, but why does Pearson have to shout, he does have a microphone in football and other sports they swap the commenters around could they try a few other people, what happened to Havvy and the eastbourne bloke whose name I cant remember there are plenty of ex-riders about and some of the people doing the DVDs at the tracks do a pretty good job of commentating, it would be nice to hear someody esle for a change. Roll on the next one, which Im going to(excited already) bring it on. PROBABLY because they (Nigel and Kelvin) are in an open box talking over the sound of motorsport... not quite like football. If you amongst a noisy environment talking on your mobile phone I bet you shout as well... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 Nikki has just stuffed emil big time into the fence in the polish league tonight,100% Nikkis fault,terrible move,but in the GP the move he made was no way his fault,no one was giving and inch,refs decision could have gone either way.It would have been interesting if Nikki didnt get excluded because he was under power when Zagar slapped him with outside help!!!! Oh for goodness sake, a tad over reaction. Pedersen hardly stuffed Sayfotdinov big time as you claim, yes he caused Sayfutdinov to fall but the referee could've quite easily called three riders back for a re-run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 when you read speedway u If you like blood, speedway isn"t right sport for you. Matej could get seriously injured yesterday. Not to mention destroying his bike. But nothing will happend before NP puts somebody in a wheelchair. Govno od človeka! quite right, everynight on speedway updates people put "stay safe", then all of a sudden, you get weirdos supporting np kamikazzi moves..its one thing knocking someone off, but to not even check how they are is something else! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwaysliders Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 (edited) Oh for goodness sake, a tad over reaction. Pedersen hardly stuffed Sayfotdinov big time as you claim, yes he caused Sayfutdinov to fall but the referee could've quite easily called three riders back for a re-run. So if you were the ref you would consider all 4 back?!! come on,Nikki was out of order on this one,how far did he travel to get to emil? He stuffed him,terrible move. Edited June 15, 2014 by speedwaysliders 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 So if you were the ref you would consider all 4 back?!! come on,Nikki was out of order on this one,how far did he travel to get to emil? He stuffed him,terrible move. Anyone who missed it, make your own mind up on it heat 13 http://www.sportowefakty.pl/zuzel/447531/nicki-pedersen-zasluzyl-na-wykluczenie-wideo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) im not bothered about zagar's reaction or pedersen kick him that was all just handbags. But his move was no different to what many others have done before. .nicki has just knocked emil off in poland and before anybody comes on here saying "i supose he is the innocent party again" no he was rightly excluded as he was last night The move was terrible, the lack of concern was very disappointing. Heads gone, maybe that's why he carries a shrink round with him. If as you say 'many' others do it there would be no riders left as not many will walk away. At least you liked your own post 😉 Edited June 16, 2014 by Hodgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Anyone who missed it, make your own mind up on it heat 13 http://www.sportowefakty.pl/zuzel/447531/nicki-pedersen-zasluzyl-na-wykluczenie-wideo Anyone who missed it, make your own mind up on it heat 13 http://www.sportowefakty.pl/zuzel/447531/nicki-pedersen-zasluzyl-na-wykluczenie-wideoHe knew what he was doing!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 The move was terrible, the lack of concern was very disappointing. Heads gone, maybe that's why he carries a shrink round with him. If as you say 'many' others do it there would be no riders left as not many will walk away. At least you liked your own post 😉darcy does the same move in his last ride only difference is the rider on outside dosent try to drop it on him. His lack of concern is selfish but thats nicki. I watched it back this morning and when he dives in going into corner and they meet there is no contact and thats the point at surely the dive is dangerous .its not till they reach the middle of the corner when there is contact .i said it was about 8ft but watching it at real speed its more like 30ft. To me at that point the move is unfortunate rather than dangerous. I liked my own post by accident but the misses always said i liked my own voice 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Always been a NP fan, but i do feel an evaluation of his mental state should be undertaken after Saturday... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Always been a NP fan, but i do feel an evaluation of his mental state should be undertaken after Saturday... I am a big Nicki fan but he is either insane or just plain dirty. I remember in the WTC when he tried to pass a Russian on the outside through a gap you could not get a pencil through. The Russian was sent flying and then in a pit interview NP whined that it was the Russians fault and the ref was wrong to exclude him. He has indeed been on the wrong end of decisions but most of his problems are caused by his own actions when he goes in too hard or just tries to get through gaps that are not there. Banning him would be crazy as he is TV gold but he does need a good thumping. His hard man image is just an illusion after he ran away from Zagar on Saturday. Like all bullies he is just a big blowhard coward so next time hopefully someone will lay the bloke out and maybe, just maybe, knock some sense into him. We will miss him when he is gone from the sport but he seriously needs to realise just how dangerous some of the things he does are both for himself and those he does it to. It's a shame as he is one of the few really talented speedway riders 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 I see Woffy now digging at Pedersen on Twitter,whats it do do with him,he wants to learn to keep him mouth shut,was hit Tia who T boned Gollob last year Pedersen did naff all wrong on Saturday night,when for a gap to get World Championship points, that the name of the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santacruz Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 His hard man image is just an illusion after he ran away from Zagar on Saturday. Indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 I see Woffy now digging at Pedersen on Twitter,whats it do do with him,he wants to learn to keep him mouth shut,was hit Tia who T boned Gollob last year Pedersen did naff all wrong on Saturday night,when for a gap to get World Championship points, that the name of the game I think it was actions after the incident that most people find out of order tbh. Kicking a man with a steel shoe after you have been involved in sending him into the airfence was somewhat cowardly, to put it mildly... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 I think it was actions after the incident that most people find out of order tbh. Kicking a man with a steel shoe after you have been involved in sending him into the airfence was somewhat cowardly, to put it mildly... Ah yes, Zagar is badly injured isn't he. Forgive me, but if someone approaches me, walking, and strikes me, I assume they're not particularly hurt at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) Ah yes, Zagar is badly injured isn't he. Forgive me, but if someone approaches me, walking, and strikes me, I assume they're not particularly hurt at that point. Yes but surely you would concede that someone with a long standing reputation as a hard man who kicks out, at someone who has stood up to him, like a girl and then runs away to stand safely behind his colleagues whilst laughing and swearing as the person he kicked out at confronts him again.................. is in fact a big sissy. I think NP was wrong and I like the guy he does not deserve a ban. Maybe a severe talking to or even a tw#t in the mouth as he is getting a bit dangerous. He no longer has a hard man reputation as he is a little coward and his actions were that of a bully with balls of clay. It was just luck that both he and Zagar were able to show that the tough image of speedway riders is perhaps all front as they both fought like a pair of pansies. Jack Millen could have laid them both out on the track and he's dead. If you are going to play the hard man it is an advantage to actually BE one. Nicki showed us all on Saturday what he is Edited June 16, 2014 by pandorum 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Yes but surely you would concede that someone with a long standing reputation as a hard man who kicks out, at someone who has stood up to him, like a girl and then runs away to stand safely behind his colleagues whilst laughing and swearing as the person he kicked out at confronts him again.................. is in fact a big sissy. I think NP was wrong and I like the guy he does not deserve a ban. Maybe a severe talking to or even a tw#t in the mouth as he is getting a bit dangerous. He no longer has a hard man reputation as he is a little coward and his actions were that of a bully with balls of clay. It was just luck that both he and Zagar were able to show that the tough image of speedway riders is perhaps all front as they both fought like a pair of pansies. Jack Millen could have laid them both out on the track and he's dead. If you are going to play the hard man it is an advantage to actually BE one. Nicki showed us all on Saturday what he is In Doug Templetons hey-day Nicki would have left the track on a stretcher !!!!!!! After such a move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwaysliders Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 IN what way could Zagar have been deemed to have been equally at fault? If possible look at pix sequence on Twitter @speedwaystarmag and see whether you can tell me how Zagar could have avoided being run into? Thanks for photos and i can see your way of thinking but i still think it was a 50/50 call,and solely wasnt to do with Nikkis move as Zagar refused to budge which he is entilted to do,knowone giving an inch.Please answer these questions. After the 2 riders clashed Nikki was still under power when Zagar slapped him,should Zgar have been excluded for that? was Nikki thinking of continueing the race as his bike was still under power? Did Zagars action convince the ref that it was Nikkis fault? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Ah yes, Zagar is badly injured isn't he. Forgive me, but if someone approaches me, walking, and strikes me, I assume they're not particularly hurt at that point. Only cowards kick out and run. Maybe some initial concern about the guy he had just put in the fence might have prevented the situation. I fully expect 'karma' is waiting just around the corner for this reckless big girls blouse... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Thanks for photos and i can see your way of thinking but i still think it was a 50/50 call,and solely wasnt to do with Nikkis move as Zagar refused to budge which he is entilted to do,knowone giving an inch.Please answer these questions. After the 2 riders clashed Nikki was still under power when Zagar slapped him,should Zgar have been excluded for that? was Nikki thinking of continueing the race as his bike was still under power? Did Zagars action convince the ref that it was Nikkis fault? NEITHER rider received a point from the race ... both were deemed not to have finished. Had the incident happened one lap sooner I have no doubt that the referee would have excluded NP and allowed MZ back in a rerun regardless of his subsequent action. Not sure that he can exclude a rider from a rerun for that reason. I couldn't find anyone watching from the pits at Malilla and after looking at TV replays who didn't think that NP was guilty of dangerous riding and that Zagar did nothing wrong prior to hurtling through the safety fence, which fortunately in this case did its job. Certain similarities with Holder's crash at Coventry which is still having repercussions of course. In Doug Templetons hey-day Nicki would have left the track on a stretcher !!!!!!! After such a move. PLENTY of others come to mind, too... asked the watching Briggo at Malilla what his reaction would have been. His smile said it all. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Thanks for photos and i can see your way of thinking but i still think it was a 50/50 call,and solely wasnt to do with Nikkis move as Zagar refused to budge which he is entilted to do,knowone giving an inch.Please answer these questions. After the 2 riders clashed Nikki was still under power when Zagar slapped him,should Zgar have been excluded for that? was Nikki thinking of continueing the race as his bike was still under power? Did Zagars action convince the ref that it was Nikkis fault? Anyone with Speedway knowledge could see Pedersen caused the crash, his fault. 100/0%. If Zager holds the line doesn't mean Pedersen can slam into him, then call it 50/50. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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