Swedish Gp Malilla Saturday June 14th

[Pirate Nick]

All for hard riding etc but when you've drilled a rider at least have the decency to go over and see if he's alright.

[montie]

Pedersen did was i was always taught as a kid if someone bigger than me wanted a scrap...kick him in the balls and leg it!!!

 

Zagar did for sure leave gap on the inside and Niki being Niki was always going to go for it..GP speedway is hard..these things happen

[rob tatum]

FABULOUS GP lovely stadium ,bumper crowd ,superb close racing ,excellent track & a punch up. I really have to commend the commentary team who were yes ok IMO very good (iversen in the vip tent was very funny) but most of all scott nicholls & his buddie (sorry don't know his name ) are a revelation ,they have real chemistry & really add to the whole GP. Well done to all involved especially tai & pedersen (boo) but boy is he great entertainment.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

What rubbishe. Both should have been given a £600 bonus for adding to the nights entertainment. If two riders want to fight/slap each other then let them!

 

As for the rest of you calling for bans and all sorts. It's a GP FFS, Nicki was hardly going to sit back and stay in 4th. He made a move, he got it wrong. If we're going to ban rider who misjudge things you'll end up with gate and go speedway.

it wasnt the move itself - it was one you would expect from many a rider although Nicki has a special knack for it.

 

It was the total disregard for a fellow riders well being after the incident,the cowardly kick and speed off and the total lack of any decency to accept his fault in the pits with the sneering goading added to boot.

 

As per my first comment - what a tosser.

 

All that said I agree its far from all bad for sport. The GPs will miss him when hes gone although few fellow riders will.

[Tsunami]

So Pederson appears to have got away with it again, he is a disgrace to our sport, if I was Zagar I would have walloped him harder!

If NP hadn't back heeled Zagar and rode to the pits, Zagar would have walloped NP and picked up a deserved ban. At least NP went back to the pits, and BTW did not ride his bike into a Zagar mechanic, and did not start the incident in the pits. That was always Zagar and in football, if you lift your hands, and punch or push an opponent, you are off and you get a ban, no matter who started it.

BTW Last year Tai had NP off about three times, Holder nearly had NP off at Cardiff, but everyone blames NP. He is no angel, and sadly did not check the condition of Zagar, which is disrespectful, but I certainly can see Zagar doing exactly that to any rider. He has never been popular anywhere.

Yes, NP is a naughty boy at times, but he is no different to the previous hard men that have rode for your own teams, and whom you probably idolised at the time. He entertains and puts bums on seats, so enjoy him NP while he is still at the top.

[Super Blue]

I think Mr P reached a whole new level of naughtyboyness tonight !

[John Leslie]

CORRECT ... both Zagar and Pedersen fined 600 euros for "ungentlemanly conduct" by the FIM Jury.

600 Euros to knock Pedersen out seems a bargain. Perhaps Tai should consider this as a bigger fundraiser for G.O.S.H.

[SCB]

it wasnt the move itself - it was one you would expect from many a rider although Nicki has a special knack for it.

 

It was the total disregard for a fellow riders well being after the incident,the cowardly kick and speed off and the total lack of any decency to accept his fault in the pits with the sneering goading added to boot.

 

As per my first comment - what a tosser.

 

All that said I agree its far from all bad for sport. The GPs will miss him when hes gone although few fellow riders will.

TBF. my comment on facebook earlier was, "What a wimp Pedersen! Kick him then ride off then goad him when there's enough people around to save you!" but I still don't see how that deserving of a ban! It just makes him a bit of a dick.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

Is there even a provision for a ban in the regs anyway? Or a points deduction or any redress other than a fine for that matter.

[Guest]

I have a few pals and their wives round to watch Italy v England on TV later. We went on Freeview 38 to watch the Grand Prix and they felt Mallilla in Sweden was "rather tatty compared to World Cup venues." And they also thought the meeting did not have the same atmosphere that the World Cup games have.

 

 

FABULOUS GP lovely stadium ,bumper crowd ,superb close racing ,excellent track & a punch up. I really have to commend the commentary team who were yes ok IMO very good (iversen in the vip tent was very funny) but most of all scott nicholls & his buddie (sorry don't know his name ) are a revelation ,they have real chemistry & really add to the whole GP. Well done to all involved especially tai & pedersen (boo) but boy is he great entertainment.

 

Were we watching the same event on TV. All the old London stadiums were better than that place! I now, I visited all six of them when they were running from the 1940s onwards.

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

Pedersen dives in ,zagar turns early to protect his line .they come together and travel around 8ft in control and pedersen dosent leave the white line ,then pedersen is slightly infront when there is minimal contact and zagar's bike straightens like a footrest has flicked a chain off and zagar goes down .its a hard move but not a dangerous one and from a front view you would see this. Correct decision to exclude pedersen but just a hard move that most riders would do in a GP. what happens after is what speedway needs .it gets people talking about the sport

Edited June 14, 2014 by THE DEAN MACHINE

[DSC67]

Pedersen dives in ,zagar turns early to protect his line .they come together and travel around 8ft in control and pedersen dosent leave the white line ,then pedersen is slightly infront when there is minimal contact and zagar's bike straightens like a footrest has flicked a chain off and zagar goes down .its a hard move but not a dangerous one and from a front view you would see this. Correct decision to exclude pedersen but just a hard move that most riders would do in a GP. what happens after is what speedway needs .it gets people talking about the sport

I've seen a lot worse moves at Berwick on a Saturday night , there's been a massive over reaction to this

[Bagpuss]

I've seen a lot worse moves at Berwick on a Saturday night , there's been a massive over reaction to this

Don't think the move was the issue, more the lack of concern when Zagar was in the fence, the kick and the laughing and ear cupping in the pits. I can't stand Pedersen personally, BUT as a pantomime villain he will be missed when he retires and will take some replacing.

[stevebrum]

Just caught up with the meeting. Great meeting with excellent racing. Which is why temporary tracks will never produce this level of racing.

Excellent to see Woffy flying again.

Pedersen does what Pedersen does. Just downright dirty and lacking any respect

[Guest]

I've seen a lot worse moves at Berwick on a Saturday night , there's been a massive over reaction to this

 

No names but I recall a 1940s incident at New Cross when after the race because he had been overtaken by a home junior rider, a visiting international after the race charged his bike at the junior - who luckily escaped serious injury or damage to his bike. The offending visitor was banned from the rest of the meeting by the then ACU Steward. It was a far more serious incident than what took place between Nicki Pedersen and Matej Zagar.

Edited June 14, 2014 by Guest

[mervjankefanclub]

We all know Pedersen is a wee rat who likes to dish it out but isn't too keen on taking it back. But like GB says speedway needs a controversial villain for the punters to boo and talk about on here and it will be that wee bit duller when he eventually chucks it. Tell you what though, he wouldn't have lasted two minutes back in the days of real hard men like Millen, Browning, Leadbitter, Grant, Gresham...et al. I would love to have seen him try something like that at Glasgow when auld Jimmy Beaton was in his pomp....just ask Nigel Flatman ...................Jeezo could you imagine what this forum would have been like if it was around in the 70s

[Fromafar]

Pedersen dives in ,zagar turns early to protect his line .they come together and travel around 8ft in control and pedersen dosent leave the white line ,then pedersen is slightly infront when there is minimal contact and zagar's bike straightens like a footrest has flicked a chain off and zagar goes down .its a hard move but not a dangerous one and from a front view you would see this. Correct decision to exclude pedersen but just a hard move that most riders would do in a GP. what happens after is what speedway needs .it gets people talking about the sport

I agree regarding your view of the incident,but Nicki antics in the pits were disgraceful for a professional sportsman .No respect for him.

[DSC67]

I agree regarding your view of the incident,but Nicki antics in the pits were disgraceful for a professional sportsman .No respect for him.

That was all for the benefit of the TV cameras a lot worse goes on in the pits that we never see

[Fromafar]

That was all for the benefit of the TV cameras a lot worse goes on in the pits that we never see

Possibly,but it does Nicki no favours IMO.

[speedwaysliders]

I dont even think Pedersen should have been excluded,Riders were divebombing into that corner all night,Zagar himself doing it in one race with Woffinden.Pedersens move into that corner was light compared to when he runs a rider completely out of room,The main fact was Zagar wasnt going to give an inch,nothing wrong in that,and it would have been a great race to the line if they hadnt of tangled.Also thought Nikki was getting up to try and get a point out of the race if Zagar hadnt hadd aquite word!!!