Old Crusader Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Followed the match at Mildly on pb yesterday and was quite impressed the way we fought back must have been quite exciting if you were there. Thought we were coming away with a point! However faded again at the end. We will need to be on top form today and keep the pressure up. Hopefully at home we will have an advantage? 4 points from a heat leader is not good enough. I expect Aaron to perform like last week and sure Danny and Luke will fair better at home. Let's see if we can s n a t c h all the points today LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Do not know if I will go tonight as the weather is iffy and the "Storm" team has been decimated with injuries/unavailable. Had the look of a good close meeting - Kings should win comfortably now with Coventry`s problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) Coventry have now lost Ollie Greenwood as depending on the guest it looks now that the Kings should take this against a considerably weaker than normal Storm .Ben Hopwood guests for the unavailable Simon Lambert at No 1..The new averages will probably take effect in Kings next meeting which will see Ben Morley move to number one..Hope the weather holds out today and all the boys have a good safe meeting..... ..One thing i have noticed this season is, that despite the introduction of compulsary air fences there seems to be more injured riders than ever at the moment.. Edited June 2, 2014 by waco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 I now read that Oliver Greenwood is also missing (injured) for Storm. This meeting has now become a farce. Coventry have now lost Ollie Greenwood as depending on the guest it looks now that the Kings should take this against a considerably weaker than normal Storm .Ben Hopwood guests for the unavailable Simon Lambert at No 1..The new averages will probably take effect in Kings next meeting which will see Ben Morley move to number one..Hope the weather holds out today and all the boys have a good safe meeting With 4 out of Coventry`s top 5 missing,is that enough for the meeting to be called off ? Just wondered is there any rule about this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 I now read that Oliver Greenwood is also missing (injured) for Storm. This meeting has now become a farce. With 4 out of Coventry`s top 5 missing,is that enough for the meeting to be called off ? Just wondered is there any rule about this. You have to remember this is Speedway, they make them up as they go along.. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 You have to remember this is Speedway, they make them up as they go along.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Whistle Gang Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Latest line up for Coventry is as follows (in no particular order): Daniel Greenwood Martin Knuckey Ryan Terry-Daley (oh no it isn't!) Brendan Johnson (Guest) Sam Chapman (Guest) R/R for James Sarjeant Missing for them tonight: James Sarjeant (concussion riding EL) Luke Crang (shoulder injury riding PL) Oliver Greenwood (collarbone riding PL) Stefan Nielsen (riding for BV in EL) Anyone starting to feel that some of these NL boys are riding beyond their abilities in PL and EL? Also, anyone got Adam Kirby's number? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldHawk Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Is there any point in having Simon Lambert or is there any point in having this league? He has missed the last 3 home matches now Its bad enough for Coventry to have to ride it with no decent riders available due to injury but self made problems are harder to accept. Whilst the Elite league "fast track" appears a good idea in theory, fixture clashes with the Elite league are wrecking the NL which is struggling anyway. I stopped going to speedway in 1996 and only returned last year to support Kent but my enthusiasm is already waning because speedway just never learns and never appears to make any decent long term decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Also, anyone got Adam Kirby's number? He rode well at Leicester yesterday. Much more controlled and a much more mature rider than last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Whistle Gang Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Re: Adam Kirby He rode well at Leicester yesterday. Much more controlled and a much more mature rider than last year. I don't think anyone questions the lad's ability. It seems to be widely acknowledged that Adam's main issue is his weight. If he could shed a couple of stone, he would be that much faster, would make quicker progress, and would attract more attention from managers/promoters, thus getting more rides and possibly a regular team berth somewhere. Currently though, he struggles for regular bookings. Great shame. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjolnir Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 It's a shame about the number or riders missing tonight - I'm bringing a friend and originally thought it would be a good meeting for them to see. Fingers crossed there will still be some good racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjolnir Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Some good racing and a good result for Kent in the end! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Not exactly the stroll in the park expected against a decimated Coventry out fit.. The lads representing the Storm tonight can all be proud of their efforts providing a far more entertaining meeting than expected..A blue groove developed early which really helped David Mason to fly round tonight 13 +1... Ben Morley also only dropped one point to an opposing rider when Dan Greenwood shot up the inside on the blue groove to lead out of bend 2,,,he and Brendon Johnson providing the main opposition keeping the Storm in contention till heat ten when the Kings slowly drew clear to win 53-37....One has to say had the Storm been at full strenght the result might have been compleately different and the kings still look vulnerable at home without Benji Compton,, hopefully when he returns the averages will allow us to keep Aaron Basby who had a couple of good wins tonight,.. Danny Ayres continues to improve and does the fastest remounts in British speedway a born entertainer ..Guest Ben Hopwood did a good job for us tonight ..Garry Chessle is very up and down ,,needs some consistancy,,while young Luke Harris has gone backwoods a little lately but its early doors with him..We will however need to strengthen up if we are going to make the play offs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Whistle Gang Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 When I saw the line ups I predicted 55-35, but I'll take 53-37 thank you very much. Storm were woefully under strength tonight, but that's not Kent's doing and you have to race against the opposition put in front of you. Also, let's not forget that Kent will be a much stronger outfit when we're firing on all cylinders again. I thought Ben Hopwood was sound, although his lack of concentration in heat 13 (The Whistle Gang's heat) converted our 5-1 into a 4-2. No complaints about Aaron Baseby, although he should feel aggrieved about RTD turning left on him in heat 9 and being allowed back into the rerun.I'll take 7 points from my number 2 any day of the week. David Mason is becoming a bit of an enigma for me; almost unbeatable sometimes at home, crap on the road. Love his laps of honour, but would sacrifice those and some home points for some consistency on away tracks. Apart from overcooking it in heat 9 (and then almost getting back on level terms), Luke Chessell was worth his 6+1 tonight and I find myself worrying much less about him these days. Ben Morley, despite his paid 14 point haul, looked a little down on power tonight. Also, I can't help thinking that Boxall would have covered every inch of that track, trying to find a way past Greenwood in heat 7. Ben's track craft still looks a little incomplete. Getting more and more concerned about Luke Harris just lately. Not only does he appear to fall short of his early potential, but he actually seems to be taking backward steps. I think Luke's team place is in serious jeopardy. However, the same cannot be said of Danny Ayres. I could see his speedway brain working tonight, both in terms of his gating preparations and his experimenting with different riding lines. Overtake of the night (how did he close the gap on Knuckey) in heat 14. Also, my rider of the night. Sure, we'll have sterner tests, especially from the visits of Stoke, King's Lynn and Cradley. Still hopeful of a top 4 finish though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 When I saw the line ups I predicted 55-35, but I'll take 53-37 thank you very much. Storm were woefully under strength tonight, but that's not Kent's doing and you have to race against the opposition put in front of you. Also, let's not forget that Kent will be a much stronger outfit when we're firing on all cylinders again. I thought Ben Hopwood was sound, although his lack of concentration in heat 13 (The Whistle Gang's heat) converted our 5-1 into a 4-2. No complaints about Aaron Baseby, although he should feel aggrieved about RTD turning left on him in heat 9 and being allowed back into the rerun.I'll take 7 points from my number 2 any day of the week. David Mason is becoming a bit of an enigma for me; almost unbeatable sometimes at home, crap on the road. Love his laps of honour, but would sacrifice those and some home points for some consistency on away tracks. Apart from overcooking it in heat 9 (and then almost getting back on level terms), Luke Chessell was worth his 6+1 tonight and I find myself worrying much less about him these days. Ben Morley, despite his paid 14 point haul, looked a little down on power tonight. Also, I can't help thinking that Boxall would have covered every inch of that track, trying to find a way past Greenwood in heat 7. Ben's track craft still looks a little incomplete. Getting more and more concerned about Luke Harris just lately. Not only does he appear to fall short of his early potential, but he actually seems to be taking backward steps. I think Luke's team place is in serious jeopardy. However, the same cannot be said of Danny Ayres. I could see his speedway brain working tonight, both in terms of his gating preparations and his experimenting with different riding lines. Overtake of the night (how did he close the gap on Knuckey) in heat 14. Also, my rider of the night. Sure, we'll have sterner tests, especially from the visits of Stoke, King's Lynn and Cradley. Still hopeful of a top 4 finish though. I keep reading about how much Kent are missing Benji, i agree up to a point, but the rider you are missing most of all is Brandon, and except for Scunthorpe, Plymouth and Buxton you will get nothing away while Mason performs so poorly at away tracks, really NO excuse for him with the experience that he has, its between Kent, Stoke, Mildy and KL for two of the three Play Off places, Storm and Cradley will deffo be two, so how you perform against them home and away is vital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Whistle Gang Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 I keep reading about how much Kent are missing Benji, i agree up to a point, but the rider you are missing most of all is Brandon, and except for Scunthorpe, Plymouth and Buxton you will get nothing away while Mason performs so poorly at away tracks, really NO excuse for him with the experience that he has, its between Kent, Stoke, Mildy and KL for two of the three Play Off places, Storm and Cradley will deffo be two, so how you perform against them home and away is vital. Wouldn't take issue with most of what you say, although I didn't mention Benji specifically in my post (but probably have done many times before - big fan). I really thought Benji was set up for big things this year, given his physical training regime and investment in equipment. He reckons he'll be back riding in under 3 weeks now. His re-insertion into the team poses a few issues though, bearing in mind he remains on 6.37 and Kent have 2.88 to spare. This means that he can't replace either Ayres or Freemantle one-for-one (unless they achieve new and improved GSAs in the meantime). Therefore, you're looking at Morley, Lambert, Mason, Chessell or Baseby. Of these, only Morely looks fireproof. The most vulnerable is probably Mason, but he is well liked by large sections of the home crowd and there is no denying the positive impact he has in the pits. I guess it will all depend on how Lambo, Magic, Luke C and Mark perform in the next couple of weeks. Incidentally, I reckon Stoke are nailed on for a top 3 finish, leaving us fighting it out with Mildenhall and King's Lynn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Crusader Posted June 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 I think I'm beginning to understand the team points building limits once the season has started but can someone confirm if I have it right. I've never looked into it that deeply before. The maximum team points at the start of the season I believe is 40. However if you wish to or have to replace riders during the season this is based on the GSA at certain times in the year. At the moment based on the latest GSA, Kent have a total of 37.12 points. Therefore is that the limit we can build to? Whereas Cradley are at 54.24. So if they lose a rider/s they can build back to that total? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 I think I'm beginning to understand the team points building limits once the season has started but can someone confirm if I have it right. I've never looked into it that deeply before. The maximum team points at the start of the season I believe is 40. However if you wish to or have to replace riders during the season this is based on the GSA at certain times in the year. At the moment based on the latest GSA, Kent have a total of 37.12 points. Therefore is that the limit we can build to? Whereas Cradley are at 54.24. So if they lose a rider/s they can build back to that total? Not exactly, say Cradley were to lose a rider, they can replace him to his average regardless of if they go over the points limit, however if they were to make more changes to the side, say replace a 7 point rider and a 3 point rider with two 5 point riders they could only do that under the 40 point limit. Hopefully that makes sense, it's not the most straightforward thing to word! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Brandon has been out for quite a while with concussion which sometimes takes a long time to recover from ,so its anyones guess when he might return..We all know his capabilities, but he had not been doing that well this season before his injury so i do not think the lads replacing him are doing too badly taking in to account their limited expierience.... Where as Benji,s form away from home was as good as any ones, and thats where he is sorely missed... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Crusader Posted June 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Not exactly, say Cradley were to lose a rider, they can replace him to his average regardless of if they go over the points limit, however if they were to make more changes to the side, say replace a 7 point rider and a 3 point rider with two 5 point riders they could only do that under the 40 point limit. Hopefully that makes sense, it's not the most straightforward thing to word! Thanks for your reply RocketBen 1, but it seems more complicated than I thought. So you are allowed to replace one of your riders to his average. But if you want to replace others you can only do that to the 40 points limit. That would mean that Cradley could only replace one rider as they are at 54.24 way over 40. Is that right, I know it's difficult to word? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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